The Official Cavan GAA Discussion thread.

Hammar

Mountnugent have been decimated by emigration,so i'm told.
The scoreline would have been much greater also,only our lads started fisting balls over the bar when we broke through their backline in groups for the last 5/6 scores. Mountnugent need to get back down into the Junior championship and regroup because they have some very young players with some talent,but they don't need beatings like this. That game done us no favours either. It's hard to know where we are at after a game like that.
What happened Kill though? I thought they would put it up to Belturbet.

manutd

Hammar wrote: »

What happened Kill though? I thought they would put it up to Belturbet.

They wrre missing 6 players from the junior fonal last year.

Thunderbirds

manutd wrote: »

Games played in IFC tonight
Ballyhaise 3-23 (32) Mountnugent 0-3

Belturbet 8-11 (35) Kill 0-8

Not good for Cavan club football.

Mountnugent a junior club. That's the problem getting promoted without actually winning a championship.

Tom Joad

Juniors had a comfortable 1-17 to 0-6 win in the Junior semi-final. Cavan will play Kerry in the final.

muincav

Well done to Cootehill Celtic Hurling club on winning the senior county title for the first time in nearly 50 years. The final score was Cootehill 5-07 Ballymachugh 1-6......Josh Crowe was man of the match and probably was the first day too....wasnt as good a game as the drawn game but worth waiting for.....well done to both teams today..:)

Tom Joad

muincav wrote: »

Well done to Cootehill Celtic Hurling club on winning the senior county title for the first time in nearly 50 years. The final score was Cootehill 5-07 Ballymachugh 1-6......Josh Crowe was man of the match and probably was the first day too....wasnt as good a game as the drawn game but worth waiting for.....well done to both teams today..:)

Heard good things were happening with hurling around Cootehill so nice to see reward for that. Have to confess that I didn't follow the championship too closely - how many teams are in it now? Who beat Woodford and Mullahoran this year?

muincav

Only 3 teams on a round robin, Cootehill beat Mullahoran, Ballymachugh beat cootehill and Mullahoran beat Ballymachugh...but Cootehill and Ballymachugh had better points diff so went to final....Cootehill really should have won it first day out with Ballymachugh finishing with 12 men and Cootehill had been up by 8 at one stage but they just stopped playing and a last min penalty made a draw, but with the suspensions from the sendings off and a few injuries it never looked like Ballymahugh would win it and that could be their last chance for a while...Cootehill have a very young team and a lot more young lads coming through so they could be there for a few years if they keep most of them together....Last year Mullahoran were physically too strong for the young lads but its speed and skill that will stand to them now....Great to watch when its played well....hard luck to Ballymachugh who gave it their all over the 2 games..

Tom Joad

Big weekend in the senior championship with Lavey beating Mullahoran which was a bit of a surprise. Ballinagh lost to Cuchullains 0-15 to 1-16. Castlerahan beat Drumalee by a point. Of course the game I went to was Kingscourt beat Redhills by 2-11 to 1-4 - Redhills only scored once in the second half - game highlighted the gulf between the top senior teams and the rest.

Draw for next round is as follows (in bold my predictions) - Castlerahan v Ramor looks to be the pick of the games imo.

Hotel Kilmore Round 2A SFC Championship:
Castlerahan v Ramor Utd
Kingscourt v Crosserlough
Lacken v Lavey
Cuchullains v Cavan Gaels

Hotel Kilmore Round 2B SFC Championship
Drumalee v Killygarry
Denn v Ballinagh
Redhills v Gowna
Drumgoon v Mullahoran

delaad

Congratulations Cavan, All-Ireland Junior Champions on a scoreline of 2-14 to Kerry's 0-14.

muincav

Well done to all the lads-great achievement...:D

cavan4sam

Well Done to All involved .. they probably won't get the recognition they deserve but in cavan All Ireland medals aren't exactly bursting out of the trophy cabinet .
A bit surprising to hear kerry a had more support than us
We may have a few lads able for the step up . Tom Hayes and Buchanann seemed to impress particularly
Good to hear Conor Moynagh is back too and played well

Thunderbirds

cavan4sam wrote: »

Well Done to All involved .. they probably won't get the recognition they deserve but in cavan All Ireland medals aren't exactly bursting out of the trophy cabinet .
A bit surprising to hear kerry a had more support than us
We may have a few lads able for the step up . Tom Hayes and Buchanann seemed to impress particularly
Good to hear Conor Moynagh is back too and played well

Kerry would have had a lot of support from those on way to Dublin for today's game. See the forwards getting a lot of praise but Damien Barkey and Fergal Reilly done great jobs on the danger men plus other backs were class. Ciaran Brady man of the match.

Crash Bang Wall

Tasty replay in Breffni tonight. Ramor v Castlerahan at 8:15

willabur

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

Tasty replay in Breffni tonight. Ramor v Castlerahan at 8:15

Was at the first game. Ramor looked like they were going to blitz Castlerahen. Playing with the wind but even aside from that they looked like a much better outfit. As soon as they got their goal they took their foot off the pedal big time. What started out as a fast, good quality game quickly descended into a mistake ridden contest, fair enough the weather was despicable .

Would imagine Ramor won't be caught so easily this time. Can see them winning this by 5 or 6 if their heads are right

Crash Bang Wall

willabur wrote: »

Was at the first game. Ramor looked like they were going to blitz Castlerahen. Playing with the wind but even aside from that they looked like a much better outfit. As soon as they got their goal they took their foot off the pedal big time. What started out as a fast, good quality game quickly descended into a mistake ridden contest, fair enough the weather was despicable .

Would imagine Ramor won't be caught so easily this time. Can see them winning this by 5 or 6 if their heads are right

Do you not think the return of Mackey Ronan Flanagan and Sean Brady for Castlerahan will have an influence? Minutes on the clock for all 3 is surely a bonus for Castlerahan>
Factor in Joe McQuillan also and anything could happen. Will be tight again, and wouldnt rule out extra time

willabur

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

Do you not think the return of Mackey Ronan Flanagan and Sean Brady for Castlerahan will have an influence? Minutes on the clock for all 3 is surely a bonus for Castlerahan>
Factor in Joe McQuillan also and anything could happen. Will be tight again, and wouldnt rule out extra time

Mackey and Flanagan came on the other day. Mackey is a pure talent but he is a shadow of his potential due to his injury. I think he would be better off taking the year off and concentrate on rehabilitation. Flanagan did play well the other evening, the two of them did. For me Ramor were still the better team

Tom Joad

Ramor won by a point 1-12 to 2-8 with Castlerahan's second goal the last score. Mackey came on after 9 mins in the second half. Ronan Flanagan black carded and Fergal red carded.

Sounded like a decent match.

Thunderbirds

Tom Joad wrote: »

Ramor won by a point 1-12 to 2-8 with Castlerahan's second goal the last score. Mackey came on after 9 mins in the second half. Ronan Flanagan black carded and Fergal red carded.

Sounded like a decent match.

Was an excellent game. Lots of serious scores and Ramor the better team. Castlerahan carrying half fit lads and missed three goal chances. Hit crossbar and a unbileveable save from Ramor keeper. Few strange decisions on black cards. Sean Brady dragged to ground none. Jack tackled. Jumps on ground. Black. Inconsistent with the application.

Tom Joad

Thunderbirds wrote: »

Was an excellent game. Lots of serious scores and Ramor the better team. Castlerahan carrying half fit lads and missed three goal chances. Hit crossbar and a unbileveable save from Ramor keeper. Few strange decisions on black cards. Sean Brady dragged to ground none. Jack tackled. Jumps on ground. Black. Inconsistent with the application.

How did Mackey do? Is he still struggling?

Thunderbirds

Tom Joad wrote: »

How did Mackey do? Is he still struggling?

Mackey didn't have much of an impact. Didn't get on a lot of ball and still not moving freely.

Crash Bang Wall

Ramor the better team, but Castlerahan will be kicking themselves. O'Connell, McBreen and McGahern all missed goal chances, and no scores resulted. Ronan also had a chance for a lob on the keeper but took his point instead, and Enda missed a handy free late on which was crucial.

But McQuillans black carding was strange. The 3 he gave were in my opinion correct, but he missed at least 2 more from the Ramor side, 1 in each half. From what I heard (I didnt see the alleged striking) he was also fully entitled to send of Flanagan, but Packie on the line missed or ignored a headbutt in an altercation he brought to the referees attention just before the second half throw in

celt262

Have anyone heard anything about Castlerahan appealing after carry on last week and Sunday night.

Read it on hoganstand - I know I know

Thunderbirds

celt262 wrote: »

Have anyone heard anything about Castlerahan appealing after carry on last week and Sunday night.

Read it on hoganstand - I know I know

Yeah they appealing. Don't think it's worth their while. Hopefully lessons learned though.

Tom Joad

celt262 wrote: »

Have anyone heard anything about Castlerahan appealing after carry on last week and Sunday night.

Read it on hoganstand - I know I know

Heard a few rumours that there might be an appeal but kinda dismissed it but have heard earlier from a fairly reliable source that an appeal has been made. Basically involves breach of the rules about time between matches and the first half was blown up to early (the lights went out) and someone other than the ref signalled the end of the first period of extra time.

All sounds a bit mad to be honest...

Thunderbirds

Tom Joad wrote: »

Heard a few rumours that there might be an appeal but kinda dismissed it but have heard earlier from a fairly reliable source that an appeal has been made. Basically involves breach of the rules about time between matches and the first half was blown up to early (the lights went out) and someone other than the ref signalled the end of the first period of extra time.

All sounds a bit mad to be honest...

Plus half time in extra time too long.

breffni bogballer

any one hear that the malicous incident with the lights was infact down to a timer,which wud indicate that ET was not planned for

Tom Joad

Thunderbirds wrote: »

Plus half time in extra time too long.

Any idea if the appeal might win and what would the implications be? there is a replay tomorrow night in Breffni involving Ballinagh (am planning on going to it) - is this in jeopardy now?

Thunderbirds

Doubt it will win. Tomorrow's game would be as normal I presume. Sundays be affected maybe. Not sure. In Laois they were made restart the whole championship because a team got bye in round two. Against rules. If the appeal is successful could cause a lot of headaches.

Crash Bang Wall

hope they dont appeal....didnt deserve to win. Mullahoran are no great shakes but Castlerahan were awful. The reason they lost is due to not taking their chances. Missed penalty and another goal chance that looked easier to score than miss

breffni bogballer

they will defo appeal,like every other club wud,very strong case for a replay

celt262

breffni bogballer wrote: »

any one hear that the malicous incident with the lights was infact down to a timer,which wud indicate that ET was not planned for

Well they stayed on the night before so I'd have my doubts if that is true. At the same time you would wonder how a member of public could get access to the switch.

What are the rules on relpays is it 5 day minimum. The county board have really ****ed up if that's correct and the game will be played again.


EDIT
Rule 6.2 Part 1 Says its 4 days notice
Rule 3.7 Part 2 Says Interval at Half time must not exceed 5 minutes

Thunderbirds

celt262 wrote: »

Well they stayed on the night before so I'd have my doubts if that is true. At the same time you would wonder how a member of public could get access to the switch.

What are the rules on relpays is it 5 day minimum. The county board have really ****ed up if that's correct and the game will be played again.


EDIT
Rule 6.2 Part 1 Says its 4 days notice
Rule 3.7 Part 2 Says Interval at Half time must not exceed 5 minutes

As above states four days notice not observed.
Stand alone fixtures five days notice in writing. Not observed.

Tom Joad

celt262 wrote: »

Well they stayed on the night before so I'd have my doubts if that is true. At the same time you would wonder how a member of public could get access to the switch.

According to the Celt this morning it was probably kids messing near the generator. All equipment like that would have a emergency stop button for safety and it was as simple as someone pressing that button!!!

Seemingly the Cavan GAA twitter giving updates from the game said as much at the time too.

Thunderbirds

Tom Joad wrote: »

According to the Celt this morning it was probably kids messing near the generator. All equipment like that would have a emergency stop button for safety and it was as simple as someone pressing that button!!!

Seemingly the Cavan GAA twitter giving updates from the game said as much at the time too.

Is that a bit too easy to turn of then? There is no way kids should have access to it. Especially when Breffni Park games are part of betting slips and you may have a more serious issue. I know that's scare mongering but surely the switch should be of limits.

Tom Joad

Ballinagh beat Lavey comfortably tonight so assuming Castlerahan appeal doesn't succeed draw for Quarters is:

Lacken v Cavan Gaels
Kingscourt v Ramor
Mullahoran v Ballinagh
Cuchullainns v Killygarry

Kingscourt v Ramor and Mullahoran v Ballinagh should be good tight games. Lacken usually give the Gaels a decent game - not sure about the other game though. Haven't heard much about Cuchullainns this year and Killygarry have been poor in both games I've seen them play.

breffni bogballer

when will the appeal result be known?

Tom Joad

breffni bogballer wrote: »

when will the appeal result be known?

Not even sure that an appeal has been officially made yet. A load of announcements were made at last nights game about parents being responsible for their kids and not to have the running around the place which I don't recall before.

Bear on the square

An official appeal was launched yesterday. Fairly sure a replay will result. If the same scenario occurred at 9 minutes in the 2nd period of extra time would the full time whistle have been sounded? I'm fairly sure the answer is no so what's the difference.

manutd

Hearing from sources in the Castlerahan club, that they know that Cavan will turn the objection down, but they are 90% sure that Ulster Council will order a full replay; thus meaning Ballinagh & Mullahoran can't be play this w/e and Castlerahan / Mullahoran must get 4 days notice of re fixture.

Where it could get ugly is if the Cavan County board decided to appeal the ulster decision to croke park.

Thunderbirds

The whole thing is a mess. In my opinion it's not fair on Mullahoran. I'm not saying Castlerahan are to blame. I think the blame is with the county board. The championship is gonna have to be examined next year. Teams getting only few days rest, some teams can lose twice and using extra time eventually when it could have being used earlier. Cavan didn't have a good year and yet fixtures are being rushed. Perhaps go back to round robin and play a couple rounds early in year.

celt262

manutd wrote: »

Hearing from sources in the Castlerahan club, that they know that Cavan will turn the objection down, but they are 90% sure that Ulster Council will order a full replay; thus meaning Ballinagh & Mullahoran can't be play this w/e and Castlerahan / Mullahoran must get 4 days notice of re fixture.

Where it could get ugly is if the Cavan County board decided to appeal the ulster decision to croke park.

Is this possible?

Hammar

Going away from the lighting issue for a minute,
It was very unfair on Castlerahan to have to play 3 games in a week full stop.
How we have come about a situation whereby a senior club have to play 3 of their most important games of the year , in one week almost 2 months after the county has been knocked out is just a clear example of the absolute clusterf**k the county board has made of the club game this year.
Ballinagh would have had to do the same too this week only for this objection.

Tom Joad

It's already highly unlikely that the Ballinagh v Mullahoran game will be played this weekend. The whole thing is a mess now.

Not sure how the whole process works but if it went all the way to Croke Park it could take ages to sort out.

Tom Joad

Thunderbirds wrote: »

The whole thing is a mess. In my opinion it's not fair on Mullahoran. I'm not saying Castlerahan are to blame. I think the blame is with the county board. The championship is gonna have to be examined next year. Teams getting only few days rest, some teams can lose twice and using extra time eventually when it could have being used earlier. Cavan didn't have a good year and yet fixtures are being rushed. Perhaps go back to round robin and play a couple rounds early in year.

Implement the Quinn report would be the right thing to do in my opinion and then we might have decent championships at all levels in the county.

manutd

celt262 wrote: »

Is this possible?

Yes, any party involved can appeal a decision, incl County board.

manutd

Tom Joad wrote: »

Implement the Quinn report would be the right thing to do in my opinion and then we might have decent championships at all levels in the county.

The problem here is that clubs only care about themselves, not the county team or the standard of club football, it all about WIN WIN WIN. If we are keeping the same format for next year then relegate two teams. two weekends were wasted with the prem rounds this year.

celt262

manutd wrote: »

The problem here is that clubs only care about themselves, not the county team or the standard of club football, it all about WIN WIN WIN. If we are keeping the same format for next year then relegate two teams. two weekends were wasted with the prem rounds this year.

It's nothing to do with win win win its more to do with the grading of clubs. There are clubs in Senior who will never win it but don't want to step down to Intermediate like wise there are clubs in Intermediate who should be in Junior. T

I agree that they don't care about the county team or the standard of football.

Relegation is a joke as-well sure any club who is relegated can go into the county board and look to be reinstated and then then the clubs vote on it.

Tom Joad

Heard that appeal was thrown out last night and Mullahoran v Ballinagh is scheduled for 7:30 Sunday night - it's on the official Cavan Gaa website as such (wasn't there yesterday)

Thunderbirds

Tom Joad wrote: »

Heard that appeal was thrown out last night and Mullahoran v Ballinagh is scheduled for 7:30 Sunday night - it's on the official Cavan Gaa website as such (wasn't there yesterday)

Fixture was always there. Now has referee with it.

Tom Joad

Lacken 0-11 Gaels 0-11 full-time. Yet another replay!!!