The Official Cavan GAA Discussion thread.

GAA Beo

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

He took a man who scored 1-3 off after 9 mins of the second half. McGleenan is a clown.

That was a team relegated from Div 1.....we are lambs to the slaughter unless we change manager.

I feel sorry for some of the players. McVeety after the game looked absolutely distraught. Its criminal that a panel of players put in the time effort and commitment to be embarrassed by a very poor manager

I can't believe O'Reilly was taken off so early after kicking 1-3. He was our only threat, even McConville said on BBC Donegal were delighted to see him come off. I have no faith in McGleenan at all and he has to go this year unless we massively turn it around, but I seriously can't see that happening. Our Championship record under him so far is appalling. I don't actually blame the players, we have far too many passengers and limited players in the side that don't belong near an IC team at this level. I fear we will be put out of the qualifiers by the first decent team we get.

lycan238

cavan4sam wrote: »

We need a kind draw in the qualifiers and try and build a bit of momentum otherwise its curtains for another year

When is the qualifier draw or has it happened already?

munchkin_utd

lycan238 wrote: »

When is the qualifier draw or has it happened already?

the draw is normally the week before the first round of qualifiers, so with the first qualifier round on June 9th, it'll be the week before that you'd think.

Just for reference , heres the overall master fixtures chart , with no mention of qualifier draws
http://www.gaa.ie/mm/Document/GaaIe/GAANews/15/11/42/MasterFixturesGrid(1)_English.docx

Crash Bang Wall

https://soundcloud.com/we-are-cavan

Interviews at 38 and 44 (Mackey & McGleenan)

Mattie, heaping pressure on McVeety, like all good managers should

A lot of time spent on the issue of losing players, which to be fair is very relevant, but not enough focus on the lack of a defensive system and the fact that our full back line is looking to get forward at every available opportunity

Cavan_King

I don't normally listen to that Podcast but I will do in future. Who are the two lads on it - Damien Donohoe and who?

For me, I raised the point back at the league final and it sticks - we don't have a manager who can get near our best team actually on the pitch. In fact, he's lost more players since he started. I can't blame lads either, I don't respect him and I don't see why they would.

Watching the replay of the game on the BBC, it's very frustrating, we'd no intensity, struck poor wides, marking was atrocious, didn't pressurize the Donegal forwards.... and the list goes on.

A big improvement is needed and my only hope is we get an easy enough draw in the qualifiers so that we can attempt to gain some momentum.

It's shocking though that when the Monaghan and Cavan teams of the 2013 Ulster semi final are compared, we've five of our 20 players that featured left and they've 12, considering the majority of their players who left were justified retirements. Someone definitely needs to sit down with all the lads that walked away and asked what can be done to stop it.

Thunderbirds

Cavan_King wrote: »

I don't normally listen to that Podcast but I will do in future. Who are the two lads on it - Damien Donohoe and who?

For me, I raised the point back at the league final and it sticks - we don't have a manager who can get near our best team actually on the pitch. In fact, he's lost more players since he started. I can't blame lads either, I don't respect him and I don't see why they would.

Watching the replay of the game on the BBC, it's very frustrating, we'd no intensity, struck poor wides, marking was atrocious, didn't pressurize the Donegal forwards.... and the list goes on.

A big improvement is needed and my only hope is we get an easy enough draw in the qualifiers so that we can attempt to gain some momentum.

It's shocking though that when the Monaghan and Cavan teams of the 2013 Ulster semi final are compared, we've five of our 20 players that featured left and they've 12, considering the majority of their players who left were justified retirements. Someone definitely needs to sit down with all the lads that walked away and asked what can be done to stop it.

Paul Fitzpatrick the other lad. Think they make a good point about strength and conditioning. Some of our players had their jersey hanging off them including lads in the panel for years while Donegal players filled theirs.

Cavan_King

Sean Cavanagh was fooling nobody when he mentioned on Today FM the other evening that Tyrone could be in trouble if they got an away trip to Castlebar or Breffni!!

GAA Beo

Cavan_King wrote: »

Sean Cavanagh was fooling nobody when he mentioned on Today FM the other evening that Tyrone could be in trouble if they got an away trip to Castlebar or Breffni!!

I doubt they are too worried, they've already thumped us once in Breffni this year in McKenna Cup. I worry for us in the qualifiers the momentum is gone.

Thunderbirds

Under 20 team

Danny Cullivan (Cornafean)
Patrick O’Reilly (Crosserlough)
Luke Fortune (Cavan Gaels)
Finbar McAvinue (Arvagh)
Conor O’Reilly (Denn)
Conor Brady (Gowna)
Philip Rogers (Knockbride)
James Smith (Crosserlough)
Conor Rehill (Crosserlough)
Luke Molloy (Cavan Gaels)
Thomas Edward Donohoe (Denn)
Stephen Smith (Crosserlough)
Ryan O’Neill (Kildallan)
Conor Smith (Killygarry)
Lee Reilly (Laragh United)

Gary O’Rourke (Ballyhaise)
Gavin Daly (Castlerahan)
Cian Madden (Gowna)
Danny Ellis (Arvagh)
Eoghan Cooney (Laragh United)
Oisin Pierson (Gowna)
Luke Gilsenan (Bailieboro)
Jack McKenna (Laragh United)
Shane McVeety (Crosserlough)

cavan4sam

Christ another beating at the hands Donegal for our under 20s
Not really looking forward to the draw in the morning

Cavan_King

cavan4sam wrote: »

Christ another beating at the hands Donegal for our under 20s
Not really looking forward to the draw in the morning

Not even a beating, an annihilation. I was expecting a lot from Downes and Marty Clarke. Was that a weak panel?

cavan4sam

And its off to Wicklow we go
No disrespect to wicklow but if we cant win this comfortably we are fecked

Crash Bang Wall

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

https://soundcloud.com/we-are-cavan

Interviews at 38 and 44 (Mackey & McGleenan)

Mattie, heaping pressure on McVeety, like all good managers should

A lot of time spent on the issue of losing players, which to be fair is very relevant, but not enough focus on the lack of a defensive system and the fact that our full back line is looking to get forward at every available opportunity

Its Donohue, and Mickey Brennan....they get Paul Fitzpatrick in from time to time as far as I know

Crash Bang Wall

Cavan_King wrote: »

Not even a beating, an annihilation. I was expecting a lot from Downes and Marty Clarke. Was that a weak panel?

Theres a few names on there from last years Minor panel, and a few that I have no clue about, the fact that the 2 best forwards on that panel were on the bench though, suggests that it was pretty strong.

A sub came on (Daly) and got a red card, but the game was long over at that stage

Cavan_King

cavan4sam wrote: »

And its off to Wicklow we go
No disrespect to wicklow but if we cant win this comfortably we are fecked

You'd think that but I don't think we can see ourselves as comfortably beating anyone. Remember a few years back when Westmeath came to Breffni and hadn't won in over a year and gave us a scare...

The Carlow and Longford results at the weekend showed you can't take any team for granted.

Hammar

Anyone know why we pulled out of the Leinster JFC the day before the Longford game??

Cavan_King

Hammar wrote: »

Anyone know why we pulled out of the Leinster JFC the day before the Longford game??

I don't agree with the decision but I'd imagine its because we are that short of players at senior level that we are playing lads who should be with the juniors.

rrs

Donegal u20s lost by 1 pt to Derry yesterday. They are human after all. Cavan shouldn't be getting a hammering like that underage.

Cavan_King

Mattie gives even more of an impression that he’s winging it.

CAVAN: James Farrelly; Killian Brady, Padraig Faulkner, Enda Flanagan; Ciaran Brady, Conor Moynagh, Martin Reilly; Sean McCormack, Killian Clarke; Bryan Magee, Gearoid McKiernan, Oisin Kiernan; Caoimhin O'Reilly, Dara McVeety, Seanie Johnston

Five changes including changing Galligan and bringing in a lad to play midfield who hasn’t featured this year to date.

Crash Bang Wall

Cavan_King wrote: »

Mattie gives even more of an impression that he’s winging it.

CAVAN: James Farrelly; Killian Brady, Padraig Faulkner, Enda Flanagan; Ciaran Brady, Conor Moynagh, Martin Reilly; Sean McCormack, Killian Clarke; Bryan Magee, Gearoid McKiernan, Oisin Kiernan; Caoimhin O'Reilly, Dara McVeety, Seanie Johnston

Five changes including changing Galligan and bringing in a lad to play midfield who hasn’t featured this year to date.

Our best full back in MF, our best MF on the 40, one of the best keepers all year on the bench, and our best forward beside him.

Surely he cant be in charge after this season.

Fitzpatrick in the Celt has a valid argument re player turnover and wants all these players contacted to see why they are not involved.....he should be expanding that search to involve Finbar Jimmy Higgins and Maguire to see why they left after last year.

The chap is out of his depth

Cavan_King

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

Our best full back in MF, our best MF on the 40, one of the best keepers all year on the bench, and our best forward beside him.

Surely he cant be in charge after this season.

Fitzpatrick in the Celt has a valid argument re player turnover and wants all these players contacted to see why they are not involved.....he should be expanding that search to involve Finbar Jimmy Higgins and Maguire to see why they left after last year.

The chap is out of his depth

I heard the lads left because it was Mattie's way or no way. That said, you have to look at the number of players that left too. Even lads only new to the panel like Gerry Smith.

I don't have any particular issue with some of the other moves. I think Mackey's future is as an impact sub and I've thought that for a while. Why should we be taking him off or watching his influence wane in a match when we need him most? I'd be throwing him on around 40 or 45 minutes to run at tired defences.

McKiernan hasn't worked at midfield and the 40 could also be his best position. I think Clarke is at midfield simply because there's no-one else. I think he'd be more suited to centre half back than full back but Faulkner has admitted he'd prefer to be further out the pitch.

I don't wish the lads any ill favour but its hard to continually look at a starting 15 where I still argue there are 15 lads as good, if not better, in the county who won't play for McGleenan.

The full forward line has serious potential:

Caoimhin O'Reilly, Dara McVeety, Seanie Johnston

Seanie will have fond memories of Wicklow in Breffni in 2010. One of the best halves of football I've ever seen from a Cavan player.

cavan4sam

Regardless of the positional switches we should be beating Wicklow or any other div 4 team by a dozen points or more .....
Tonight might tell a bit about the character of this team

soap1978

What a terrible second half performance

cavan4sam

Seemed to be no effort in 2nd half at all
Heres hoping for a favourable draw monday

Cavan_King

cavan4sam wrote: »

Seemed to be no effort in 2nd half at all
Heres hoping for a favourable draw monday

In fairness it’s difficult to keep momentum when you’re that far ahead and start to empty the bench.

Would have liked a bit more of a test to be honest. I was expecting more from Wicklow.

Crash Bang Wall

soap1978 wrote: »

What a terrible second half performance

It was terrible overall.......14 man blanket against Wicklow......from one extreme of having no defensive system, to one where we have no attacking system. Yeah we scored 2-16 or whatever it was but Wicklow were beyond woeful.

McVeety was back to the carrying the ball way too much, but he got away with it because they were so bad....playing against a blanket, you have to use the wings, with fast ball movement, and player movement, but there was very little.

As for Seanie, in the playmaking role....the game was slow enough as it was, but when he got the ball it slowed even more....every pass with the inside of the boot a max of 10 yards to a man in space......I could have done that.

That game helped nobody.....I suspect Down will be a much stiffer test, but that drubbing against Donegal may affect them mentally

willabur

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

It was terrible overall.......14 man blanket against Wicklow......from one extreme of having no defensive system, to one where we have no attacking system. Yeah we scored 2-16 or whatever it was but Wicklow were beyond woeful.

McVeety was back to the carrying the ball way too much, but he got away with it because they were so bad....playing against a blanket, you have to use the wings, with fast ball movement, and player movement, but there was very little.

As for Seanie, in the playmaking role....the game was slow enough as it was, but when he got the ball it slowed even more....every pass with the inside of the boot a max of 10 yards to a man in space......I could have done that.

That game helped nobody.....I suspect Down will be a much stiffer test, but that drubbing against Donegal may affect them mentally

It was a chronic game of football, never would have said it was championship level. Seanie slowed the whole thing down. Must have been so frustrating being Caoibhinn Reilly in the full forward line. Ran hsi legs off but the ball was never going in. Should have just pressed up on them and we would have gone to town on them. I would say down are licking their chops at the prospect of playing us, there is nothing at all in our team that would strike fear into the heart of anyone. We used to have players you could get out of your seat for, not any more.

tayto lover

So it's Brewster Park with that huge friend of Cavan, Cormac Reilly, in charge.
How is that man allowed to referee a Cavan match with his history?

28064212

Why is the game not in Breffni?

irishbuzz

https://twitter.com/DeclanBogue/status/992465381863411715

baconsarnie

Cavan_King wrote: »

Seanie will have fond memories of Wicklow in Breffni in 2010. One of the best halves of football I've ever seen from a Cavan player.

That game was hilarious. We were dead and buried, two men down and whatever row between Carr and Johnson meant our best player was left on the bench.



I think Johnson only came on for the last 10-15 minutes when it looked like we were completely toast and then proceeded to score at will, including an incredible point practically from the goal line at the town end.

irishbuzz

Potato quality highlights are on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfg5WYQu74A

Crash Bang Wall

Team

Farrelly
Gunner
Faulkner
Flanagan
Holla
Moynagh
Reilly
Magee
McCormack
Kiernan
McKiernan
Murray
Bradley
McVeety
Johnston

Clarke injured.....Galligan and Mackey not starting. Caoimhin dropped. Mattie showing he hasn't a clue

baconsarnie

irishbuzz wrote: »

Potato quality highlights are on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfg5WYQu74A

Ah thanks for that. Brings back memories!!!

On to Brewster today, fingers crossed for a decent performance. Down created three clear goal chances in the league- which Galligan did well to keep out (why is he dropped again???) so not all plain sailing.

However, they have been on the slide since then and we really need to be putting them away.

Cavan_King

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

Team

Farrelly
Gunner
Faulkner
Flanagan
Holla
Moynagh
Reilly
Magee
McCormack
Kiernan
McKiernan
Murray
Bradley
McVeety
Johnston

Clarke injured.....Galligan and Mackey not starting. Caoimhin dropped. Mattie showing he hasn't a clue

I’ve said it before and will say it again, Mackey not starting is fine with me. He’s not fit for 70 minutes so is better as an impact sub.

We don’t know if this is the definite starting team but if Caoimhin doesn’t start, it’s madness.

I’m surprised with Galligan not starting also but apparently Farrelly did a good job on the kick outs in Wicklow. Wicklow apparently played a lot of high ball in on top of the full back line and he coped with it all well.

The problem I’m hearing Mattie is having is that he’s Mr Positive making promises he can’t keep to lads re starting matches. With the eve of each new match, he has 30+ lads expecting to start!

Cavan_King

A win but what a shambles... we struggled against a Down team with arguably its two best players black carded and down to 14 men, we were given a gift of a goal and then two stupid red cards at the end.

People said it to me all through the league but Mattie is a very lucky manager.

baconsarnie

Cavan_King wrote: »

A win but what a shambles... we struggled against a Down team with arguably its two best players black carded and down to 14 men, we were given a gift of a goal and then two stupid red cards at the end.

People said it to me all through the league but Mattie is a very lucky manager.

That was an omnishambles.

14/ 15 men behind the ball, yet a poor enough Down side was able to pick their scores. No intensity; no tackling. The worst defensive set up I’ve seen in 10 years.

It stifled any potential to attack and didn’t stop Down from scoring.

Down threw that away. Two foolish black cards, a senseless red and a goalkeeping error.

We could get massacred in the next round by a decent side.

I’m not one for melodrama but that was clueless.

cavan4sam

Wasn't at the game but hearing it was our worst performance in years
Id prefer not to be in the draw monday playing that kind of football and playing it badly

baconsarnie

cavan4sam wrote: »

Wasn't at the game but hearing it was our worst performance in years
Id prefer not to be in the draw monday playing that kind of football and playing it badly

Worst since losing to Tipp at home in Division three back before Terry got us on the up.

Woeful. I have no problem with a defensive set up as long as it does it well.

This “system” doesn’t prevent the opposition play but certainly prohibits us from playing any sort of football.

We got through by sheer luck and Down’s ill discipline.

Cavan_King

The problem is Mattie’s luck. He has now got us promoted to Division 1 and two wins in the qualifiers is our best performance since 2013 I’d imagine.

In 2012, Terry first introduced the defensive system to the seniors but we’re now at it six years and we still can’t manage to counter with a bit of speed.

baconsarnie

Cavan_King wrote: »

The problem is Mattie’s luck. He has now got us promoted to Division 1 and two wins in the qualifiers is our best performance since 2013 I’d imagine.

In 2012, Terry first introduced the defensive system to the seniors but we’re now at it six years and we still can’t manage to counter with a bit of speed.

Short memory. In 2016 we were the highest scoring team in the league. We pressed and countered at speed. We were a joy to watch.

Still think that when Givney snuck that late goal against Tyrone that our biggest error was hat we didn’t press the kick out and go for the jugular in the last minute. We settled for a draw, got upended in the replay and a sloppy sending off against Derry ended our season.

But we played some mighty stuff that year (relative to previous years)

baconsarnie

Don’t want to be getting all misty eyed for 2016, but it is worth revisiting for a number of reasons.

We started poorly in the league- losing to Tyrone (again, but sure what else is new- i think we played them at least 5 times that year between league, Mc Kenna Cup & fhampinship) and somehow contriving to lose at home to Derry- things didn’t click till that momentous turn around at half time in Navan and we kicked on from there.

I may stand corrected but I don’t think Givney went in to full forward until that game and from then on he was the focal point of our attack. So a bit of luck there as we finally found the position to use his talent.

Secondly, GMac was being eased back in to the team post injury and was played on the 40. Corr and Buchanan did Trojan work in the middle and Gearoid was free to rampage forward, kick those big scores and not have to worry about tracking back. So there was a bit of luck in how we ended up playing such good football, but no one was complaining. Would’ve loved to see Terry have gone one more year but wasn’t to be.

BTW- as bad as yesterday was, I think the back door match against the Rossies in Breffni in 2014 was worse. Coming on the back of the run of 2013, promotion to division 2 and the expectations it was actually worse. And the first half of that game (the Rossies winning 2 points to 1) was the worst “football” I have ever seen.

Still yesterday was awful. Got a sense that the players were less than enamoured with the “tactics”. The energy levels were so low, they almost seemed resigned to defeat.

I agree though- the manager is bringing us backwards quickly and when this season ends, he’s got to be replaced. We got promoted from a very poor division 2 and if he’s in situ next January I don’t think we will see people rushing to join the panel. Hopefully I’m wrong on that.

Thunderbirds

baconsarnie wrote: »

Don’t want to be getting all misty eyed for 2016, but it is worth revisiting for a number of reasons.

We started poorly in the league- losing to Tyrone (again, but sure what else is new- i think we played them at least 5 times that year between league, Mc Kenna Cup & fhampinship) and somehow contriving to lose at home to Derry- things didn’t click till that momentous turn around at half time in Navan and we kicked on from there.

I may stand corrected but I don’t think Givney went in to full forward until that game and from then on he was the focal point of our attack. So a bit of luck there as we finally found the position to use his talent.

Secondly, GMac was being eased back in to the team post injury and was played on the 40. Corr and Buchanan did Trojan work in the middle and Gearoid was free to rampage forward, kick those big scores and not have to worry about tracking back. So there was a bit of luck in how we ended up playing such good football, but no one was complaining. Would’ve loved to see Terry have gone one more year but wasn’t to be.

BTW- as bad as yesterday was, I think the back door match against the Rossies in Breffni in 2014 was worse. Coming on the back of the run of 2013, promotion to division 2 and the expectations it was actually worse. And the first half of that game (the Rossies winning 2 points to 1) was the worst “football” I have ever seen.

Still yesterday was awful. Got a sense that the players were less than enamoured with the “tactics”. The energy levels were so low, they almost seemed resigned to defeat.

I agree though- the manager is bringing us backwards quickly and when this season ends, he’s got to be replaced. We got promoted from a very poor division 2 and if he’s in situ next January I don’t think we will see people rushing to join the panel. Hopefully I’m wrong on that.

The players themselves wanted a change in tactics as they were open all year. However it's obvious the manager can't coach tactics. Nobody is aware of their role. There's more to a blanket than getting players back. Also in the middle of they year to introduce a new style of play is madness.

baconsarnie

Thunderbirds wrote: »

The players themselves wanted a change in tactics as they were open all year. However it's obvious the manager can't coach tactics. Nobody is aware of their role. There's more to a blanket than getting players back. Also in the middle of they year to introduce a new style of play is madness.

Up until we fluked the goal, we were so leaderless and directionless I felt it was as if the players had given up on 2018 and were looking forward to the summer.

That’s not a slight on the players. In spite of a lack of tactics they put in some dogged performances to drag us back into division 1. I just feel their heart wasn’t in the game yesterday which isn’t like our lads. I attribute that to a lack of belief in the “system”.

If we get dumped out in the next round I wouldn’t be surprised to hear of a players meeting ala 2012.

rrs

baconsarnie wrote: »

Don’t want to be getting all misty eyed for 2016, but it is worth revisiting for a number of reasons.

We started poorly in the league- losing to Tyrone (again, but sure what else is new- i think we played them at least 5 times that year between league, Mc Kenna Cup & fhampinship) and somehow contriving to lose at home to Derry- things didn’t click till that momentous turn around at half time in Navan and we kicked on from there.

I may stand corrected but I don’t think Givney went in to full forward until that game and from then on he was the focal point of our attack. So a bit of luck there as we finally found the position to use his talent.

Secondly, GMac was being eased back in to the team post injury and was played on the 40. Corr and Buchanan did Trojan work in the middle and Gearoid was free to rampage forward, kick those big scores and not have to worry about tracking back. So there was a bit of luck in how we ended up playing such good football, but no one was complaining. Would’ve loved to see Terry have gone one more year but wasn’t to be.

BTW- as bad as yesterday was, I think the back door match against the Rossies in Breffni in 2014 was worse. Coming on the back of the run of 2013, promotion to division 2 and the expectations it was actually worse. And the first half of that game (the Rossies winning 2 points to 1) was the worst “football” I have ever seen.

Still yesterday was awful. Got a sense that the players were less than enamoured with the “tactics”. The energy levels were so low, they almost seemed resigned to defeat.

I agree though- the manager is bringing us backwards quickly and when this season ends, he’s got to be replaced. We got promoted from a very poor division 2 and if he’s in situ next January I don’t think we will see people rushing to join the panel. Hopefully I’m wrong on that.

Not quite accurate. Givney was injured for the first 2 League games in 2016.
Cavan played attacking football in 2015 but didn't have the attacking outlets of Johnston and Givney in the full forward line. They made the difference in 2016.
McHale was brought in as a forward coach in 2015 to replace Peter Donnelly. Cavan played some good football in spells in 2015 like the Laois game, but were badly missing a target man. Argue went in full forward for the Championship that year. He had a decent game on Wylie.

rrs

rrs wrote: »

Not quite accurate. Givney was injured for the first 2 League games in 2016.
Cavan played attacking football in 2015 but didn't have the attacking outlets of Johnston and Givney in the full forward line. They made the difference in 2016.
McHale was brought in as a forward coach in 2015 to replace Peter Donnelly. Cavan played some good football in spells in 2015 like the Laois game, but were badly missing a target man. Argue went in full forward for the Championship that year. He had a decent game on Wylie.
Raymond Galligan was also a reason for the quick attacking football. He came into the team for the Monghan game in 2015, and was a revelation the following year with a full year in goals.

Crash Bang Wall

Our blanket defence isn't even organised...lads running around like blue arsed flies.....its numbers getting back but loads of gaps that are never there when Tyrone Dublin or any other top team drop lads back. Our only hope of getting through is either leitrim or another team falling apart like Down did. Mattie has to go.....7 heavy Div 1 defeats follow otherwise, as I can't see the likes of Mackey and Caoimhin committing again next year to be bit part players when they should be starting

Cavan_King

That’s a good point indeed about 2016 but the problem is the manager and most of that team have walked away from the panel since then.

It was the best football we played but we don’t have those players available and I hate to keep beating the drum but questions have to be asked about that.

The county board had the chance to appoint a manager who could pull the team together and move forward and instead they went for Mattie. The rest is history.

No matter what is said about the performances you can’t argue with the end result - Cavan will be in Division 1 next year and have had our best year in the qualifiers since the anamoly that was 2013.

People talking about Mattie not being there next year are deluding themselves.

Thunderbirds

Cavan_King wrote: »

That’s a good point indeed about 2016 but the problem is the manager and most of that team have walked away from the panel since then.

It was the best football we played but we don’t have those players available and I hate to keep beating the drum but questions have to be asked about that.

The county board had the chance to appoint a manager who could pull the team together and move forward and instead they went for Mattie. The rest is history.

No matter what is said about the performances you can’t argue with the end result - Cavan will be in Division 1 next year and have had our best year in the qualifiers since the anamoly that was 2013.

People talking about Mattie not being there next year are deluding themselves.

Unfortunately the County Board didn't have a chance to appoint such a manager. Banty was the alternative. Maybe if Mattie had to listen to Finbar Reilly or Jimmy Higgins then there could have being progress. Maybe get Finbar back with Jason?

tanko

The standard in Division 2 this year was terrible, Roscommon and Cavan were the best of a bad lot.
Hopefully we dont get Monaghan tomorrow.
I’d give the managers job to Peter Reilly if he’d take it. The players that have left might return for him.