Horseman?

Sunnyisland

Giddy up out of that.

Sunnyisland

and you want to hold your horses there people :-)

Mr Cork Man

Dublin city experienced a very enjoyable display of culture yesterday.Did anyone read the news of the world yesterday about the family from Dundalk that also experienced a lovely outbreak of culture?:pac:

RichieC

Man that is so embarrassing for us

Mr Cork Man

There's so many constraints to this place at least on the Peoples Republic Of Cork site you can say whatever you wan't.:pac:

Super-Rush

Mr Cork Man wrote: »

There's so many constraints to this place at least on the Peoples Republic Of Cork site you can say whatever you wan't.:pac:

Well go post there then.

Mr Cork Man

super-rush wrote: »

Well go post there then.

Bye.:pac:

evercloserunion

Wossack wrote: »

Unfortunately there'll always be those few that'll ruin it for the rest and stirrup trouble

I agree, they have no place in mane stream society.

El_Dangeroso

Bambi wrote: »

Indeed, tis unbridled anarchy.

Wossack wrote: »

I wonder who's gonna get saddled with the cost of all that..!

I just think they should have tried to keep the situation more stable. It sounds like it was a right night-mare.

evercloserunion wrote: »

I agree, they have no place in mane stream society.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXf0yIRcdnI

sagat2

I'm astonished by the use of an "improvised shotgun", how in the feck do you improvise a shotgun? Is that like McGuyver locked in a room with an umbrella, a Pritt Stick and a horse shoe? Surely if they can make their own shotguns at home we should have them masterminding large scale engineering projects.

amacca

sagat2 wrote: »

I'm astonished by the use of an "improvised shotgun", how in the feck do you improvise a shotgun? Is that like McGuyver locked in a room with an umbrella, a Pritt Stick and a horse shoe? Surely if they can make their own shotguns at home we should have them masterminding large scale engineering projects.

length of strong metal tubing, explosive to use as a propellant (preferably gunpowder), some projectiles?? - balls/foolishness to trust your design - probably ball-less if it goes wrong.

either that or they acted out "man with shotgun" so well RTE believed it was real.


frankly I though it was indicative of stupidity they couldn't lay their hands on a real one (unless not having a real one is one less criminal offence...cant really see that being a concern though)

Dyr

sagat2 wrote: »

I'm astonished by the use of an "improvised shotgun", how in the feck do you improvise a shotgun? Is that like McGuyver locked in a room with an umbrella, a Pritt Stick and a horse shoe? Surely if they can make their own shotguns at home we should have them masterminding large scale engineering projects.

Not that hard to improvise one, they're fairly common in some third world countries

ilovelamp2000

realies wrote: »

I would like to point out that an awful lot of the people that go there are not travellers but :horse owners: from the likes of Finglas,Ballyfermot,Tallaght,Clondalkin and other areas.

What's the difference ?

Waterfordlass

conorhal wrote: »

Meh, so is a well organized stag hunt, that we can ban but the really substantial abuse of animals that takes place at that market by the kind of people that have made Ireland a by-word for animal cruelty around the world, (New York Times had an article about abandoned horses starving to death in fields around Ireland) that we ignore, those numpty Greens really had their priorities backwards.

The council talk about trying to ban the event but claim that they were unable to, me bollix, if you tried to stage an event like that some council official would crawl up your bum looking for paper work, permits and a health and safety assessment. The reality is that they just don’t want the hassle of crossing the knackers.

+ 1000

arybvtcw0eolkf

sagat2 wrote: »

I'm astonished by the use of an "improvised shotgun", how in the feck do you improvise a shotgun? Is that like McGuyver locked in a room with an umbrella, a Pritt Stick and a horse shoe? Surely if they can make their own shotguns at home we should have them masterminding large scale engineering projects.

The travelling community were always known for their skills in tinkering around with metals.

So far as I know thats how the name 'tinkers' came about for them.

I guess since its part of their culture its something we must cherish, ya know - making shotguns and shooting each other.

Merch

k_mac wrote: »

At least you're oppinions are informed and well thought out. There was 5 times the ratio of Gardaí at the event then at any other event. Both the Gardaí and council tried to cancel the event. It's not like they can ban travellers congregating.

Surely if they really wanted to stop a group of any individuals congregating in any capacity then it is possible,

mikemac

I was thinking the same about the improvised shotgun.

It's takes some skill and knowledge to do this.

So a pity they wouldn't put their metalworking skills to legal use, maybe setup a business and create some employment

Merch

feelingstressed wrote: »

I was thinking the same about the improvised shotgun.

It's takes some skill and knowledge to do this.

So a pity they wouldn't put their metalworking skills to legal use, maybe setup a business and create some employment

Maybe rifling a barrel will take some skill, but a shotgun is a smoothbore, I dont think it would really, still wouldnt fancy testing it

thebaz

its fair to say , that many here have never talked to a traveller , just brain washed by the Sunday World stereotypes - has it been proven that those involved were actually travellers ? not that it should matter

Dangerous Man

Enough is enough. The 'traveller' 'community' is rife with crime / violence. I'm tired of seeing these people move into areas and destroy them. I'm tired of seeing them ruin halting sites designed specifically for them. I'm tired of them getting away with everything because as things stand society seems to value their rights above the rights of others. I'm tired of it. Now they're shooting guns in Dublin city in broad daylight.

And don't talk to me about 'incitement to hatred.' They show what they think of civilised society by their actions. I'm supposed to sit here and just think 'I'd better not say something off about these poeple?' Get a grip. Hopefully the government will step in here and do something finally.

Metallitroll

my view is, and has always been, that a family that look out for theirs regardless are dopey scum. any traveller i have enjoyed the company of had long since removed emselves from the gang clan

grenache

Why on earth did Tourism Ireland have this fair highlighted on their website as a "tourist attraction"? What's next, the delights of Ballyfermot? Southill in the summertime?

Metallitroll

they did?! yikes morto!!

MagicSean

Merch wrote: »

Surely if they really wanted to stop a group of any individuals congregating in any capacity then it is possible,

Yes. They can declare them an illegal organisation. This has only ever been done with the IRA. I doubt travellers will be put on the list though. Otherwise it is a basic right to be allowed freedom of association.

The Waltzing Consumer

thebaz wrote: »

its fair to say , that many here have never talked to a traveller , just brain washed by the Sunday World stereotypes - has it been proven that those involved were actually travellers ? not that it should matter

Eh, every Irish news organisation covered the story ranging from the rags to the Irish Times and RTE. Each one has linked the violence to traveller feuds. Even Pavee Point have said it was members of the Travelling community who were involved.

They all have obviously been brain washed by the Sunday World apparently :P

thebaz

The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »

They all have obviously been brain washed by the Sunday World apparently :P

well reading some of the bile here , obviously a fair few few have been brainwashed by stereotypes - if it was any other race of people, it would be deemed rascist, i guess its ok to be racsist against your own kind here

The Waltzing Consumer

thebaz wrote: »

well reading some of the bile here , obviously a fair few few have been brainwashed by stereotypes - if it was any other race of people, it would be deemed rascist, i guess its ok to be racsist against your own kind here

Have a look at any other thread regarding violent acts in Ireland. The posters of AH are pretty unanimous at being disgusted at scumbag behaviour regardless of where you live or what "culture" you are from.

I would point out that there were animals, children, tourists and many civilians and emergency workers at this market who were put in danger by this scum behaviour and it certainly shows a lot when a poster shows more concern at being outraged at fake racism rather than the reality of what happened.

Humans eh!

thebaz wrote: »

its fair to say , that many here have never talked to a traveller , just brain washed by the Sunday World stereotypes - has it been proven that those involved were actually travellers ? not that it should matter

1) Yes many of us have.
2) Don't read Sunday World
3) Yes, one was a 'promising boxer who's career is now destroyed by a slashook. (which we all routinely carry around the city)
4) Yes it matters. Unless we face the elephant in the room no progress will be made.

Mr Cork Man

Dangerous Man wrote: »

Enough is enough. The 'traveller' 'community' is rife with crime / violence. I'm tired of seeing these people move into areas and destroy them. I'm tired of seeing them ruin halting sites designed specifically for them. I'm tired of them getting away with everything because as things stand society seems to value their rights above the rights of others. I'm tired of it. Now they're shooting guns in Dublin city in broad daylight.

And don't talk to me about 'incitement to hatred.' They show what they think of civilised society by their actions. I'm supposed to sit here and just think 'I'd better not say something off about these poeple?' Get a grip. Hopefully the government will step in here and do something finally.

That's a good question do human rights exist for everyone or do they only exist to protect certain minorities?

Mr Cork Man

thebaz wrote: »

well reading some of the bile here , obviously a fair few few have been brainwashed by stereotypes - if it was any other race of people, it would be deemed rascist, i guess its ok to be racsist against your own kind here

To be fair the people causing trouble at smithfield did not look like chinese or indian people to me or are you a racist against settled people and foreigners?:pac:

thebaz

Mr Cork Man wrote: »

To be fair the people causing trouble at smithfield did not look like chinese or indian people to me or are you a racist against settled people and foreigners?:pac:

many of us genetic Irish , Celtic whatever, me included , would find we have a bit of traveller blood in us - doesnt mean i carry a slash hook - but I have frequented Smithfield - more as an observer / photographer - many that i have met , have a lot less bul**** and honour than a few well bred bankers i could mention - sure there are a few bad apples, just like the clergy has, the human race is flawed - me included again