The Last Airbender: Legend of Korra [** Spoilers **]

Mr.Saturn

Just clocked 'Spoilers' in the thread title.

Sorry 'bout that, monster of habit.

A Neurotic

Perfect episode. I really wish Toph's appearance hadn't been spoiled in the trailer.

This is now my favourite show.

CastorTroy

A Neurotic wrote: »

Perfect episode. I really wish Toph's appearance hadn't been spoiled in the trailer.

This is now my favourite show.

And that is why I don't watch trailers.
Guess that means she's like Iroh? Or maybe not since she's about the age she would be.

Great episode overall. Wonder what Toph will do to get Korra back in fighting form, being that she was always so gentle with Aang. :pac:

Fluorescence

Toph could be precisely the person to help her - tough love could do a lot to help someone with Korra's temperament where the softly softly approach only caused frustration...

I'm dying to see where this final season takes us!

heebusjeebus

For ye Korra fans with a games console, the Legend of Korra game is being released next week.
From what I hear it's downloadable only and should not cost more than €20.
The game takes place between season 2 & 3 and has been scripted by a regular writer for the tv show.

I can't wait to play it and it's good to invest in all things Avatar. (I still need to get an Appa plush toy!)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Korra_(video_game)

Mark Hamill

heebusjeebus wrote: »

For ye Korra fans with a games console, the Legend of Korra game is being released next week.

It will be released on PC too, via Steam.

Mr.Saturn

Eh, it was a set-up episode this week, which is needed if it's to all wrap-up handy, but doesn't make for the best stand-alones. It gives Korra's recovery another dimension and it was great knowing Toph has only gotten more trollsome in the time since last we saw her.

It is also worth noting that Korra has made its way back to telly in the US. Granted, it's only Nicktoons, but they're bombing through where Nick dropped Book 3 and I'm hoping they catch up so the finale can broadcast with a bit of hype, might actually give the show its deserved send-off.

Chimaera

Nice twist this week with Korra ending up removing the remaining metal herself. The friction between the Airbender kids is getting a little old though.

ixoy

Toph's summation of various episodes were hilarious!

Mr.Saturn

Chimaera wrote: »

Nice twist this week with Korra ending up removing the remaining metal herself. The friction between the Airbender kids is getting a little old though.

I did like it as a callback to the start of Legend of Aang, riffing on that dynamic, but I can see why it'd grate. The tone of The Last Airbender (that title doesn't even apply anymore, I guess) has shifted darker and darker since the first series of Aang, so these lighter callbacks can seem a little jarring as we go on. It's pretty much been a delicate mix of all elements thereafter, never really going too far in one direction.

Had a slight issue with the abrupt ending, but nyeh, it got where it needed to and anything too wrought and drawn-out would be a disservice to the Toph/Korra dynamic. Aye, tough-love, but love nonetheless.

We're a third-ish into the last book, so I'm expecting something to the effect of "Sozin's Comet" to creep in mid-season and raise the stakes double.

Actually, a slight aside, I'm rewatching Avatar: The Last Airbender with the Mrs, it being her first time, and it's quite cool to experience how much Korra has enriched its predecessor; hell of feat, really. Seeing the Aang/Katara thing develop can be a bit joyous and a little sad. There was some speculation on Imgur as to Aang's last words to Katara being "No, really, thanks for going penguin-sledding with me" and I nearly dropped.

A Neurotic

Two actionless episodes + Korra getting her avatar **** together + word of Kuvira moving on Zaofu = ****'s going down next Friday. Can't wait.

Mr.Saturn

Things are coming full-circle a bit. Korra's reference to 'the old-me' was kinda interesting in that, she started overkeen to scrap and now has developed a more Aang-like aversion to violence where possible. Aang went the opposite route and had to overcome his pacifistic ways to become a fully-realized Avatar. Kinda the worst time, mind. Considering The Earth Empire's quasi Project Manhattan shtick.

That said, still kinda geared toward seeing Korra clock Kuvira and her fella in the cabbage.

Chimaera

I'm wondering what's going to happen with the inevitable blow up and massive release of spiritual energy that'll happen due to Varrick's project.

Chimaera

A real surprise for me in this episode actually was Zhu Li, especially during the fight with Batar and his lieutenants. I'm not convinced she's really joined Kuvira.

A Neurotic

Chimaera wrote: »

A real surprise for me in this episode actually was Zhu Li, especially during the fight with Batar and his lieutenants. I'm not convinced she's really joined Kuvira.

Yeah, that was a huge amount of development for Zhu Li in one episode. Wouldn't be surprised at all if she's playing Kuvira and remains loyal to Varrick.

This season doesn't compare to Book 3 at all in my opinion. So little action, so much diplomacy. I was hoping this week's episode would bring it up a notch but still fairly tame. I really hope all of this buildup pays off in a big way. Almost every episode of Book 3 had an amazing action scene... Seems like it was just a perfect season and can't be matched or improved upon.

Mr.Saturn

Yeah, having seen a slight preview of next week. (not spoiling anything really, but just in case there's a puritan lurking)

Sh*t is going down a-proper next week

.

Actually, I'll go again in case the speculation gets too close to a nerve,

but the fact AvatarSteve on the Korra Wiki pointed out that the next Avatar in the cycle is due to be one born of The Earth Kingdom/Empire. It makes me fear somewhat for Korra's chances a little, as slaying Korra'd give Kuvira room to rear the next one in her image.

ixoy

A Neurotic wrote: »

Yeah, that was a huge amount of development for Zhu Li in one episode. Wouldn't be surprised at all if she's playing Kuvira and remains loyal to Varrick.

I'd be shocked if she's changed. I thought it was extremely obvious that she's loyal to him but using this opportunity to get inside information.

This season doesn't compare to Book 3 at all in my opinion. So little action, so much diplomacy.

But that to me is the point, right? Korra herself is trying to remove the violence angle. Kuvira, to many, isn't clearly bad like the Lotus gang were or Amon. She's got huge support so to attack her invites all-out civil war.
Now Korra might not have the choice but the route so far makes sense and it shows how the characters have matured enough to not just leap in and bend everywhere without trying alternate routes.

Mr.Saturn

Dunno if anyone's still keeping up with it (t'is the dangers of on-demand viewing, I guess), but this week's ep was a nice flashback to somewhat lighter days of Book 1/2. It was fun seeing Korra going outright slick again, considering we've spent the first half of the season watching her get decked to varying degrees, and Team Avatar held theirs too.

Kinda of a wonky segue, but I dunno how anyone can watch that interplay between Asami and Korra before the lunch and not think the lads were outright baiting the Korasami shippers.

Chimaera

I've been keeping up with it. It's been a little underwhelming for what is the show's finale. It feels like they're going to have to cram in a huge amount of action in the next 5 episodes.

Chimaera

So 6th last episode ever, in a season that's been slow so far, and they do a trip down memory lane? Seriously?

Granted it was amusing and quite sweet but come on guys - it feels like you're going out with a whimper rather than a roar.

matrim

Chimaera wrote: »

So 6th last episode ever, in a season that's been slow so far, and they do a trip down memory lane? Seriously?

Granted it was amusing and quite sweet but come on guys - it feels like you're going out with a whimper rather than a roar.

Apparently Nick pulled some money and it was either stick in a cheap to make clip show or lay off some staff

Mr.Saturn

It's a bummer they didn't go more roundabout with the clip-show, like Aang did with Ember Island Players. The dialogue got pretty clunky as they tried to set the crew up for what I'm assuming is their role in the final act.

The Fearsome Foursome came as a close as this episode could to redeeming the thing.

Jasnah

What a waste of time

A Neurotic

Heart just sank during that introduction. At least the Varrick section had a light sprinkling of originality. Such a shame Nick did this to such a great show.

Fluorescence

What a waste of an episode. I wish the season had been 1 episode shorter if they had budget problems rather than give us this crap.

matrim

https://imgur.com/CT5ZlZv

Full_Circle_81

Fluorescence wrote: »

What a waste of an episode. I wish the season had been 1 episode shorter if they had budget problems rather than give us this crap.

While I wouldn't go so far as to label it crap, I do agree with the suggestion that the season would have been better off without this episode. I'm still a bit in shock that they essentially did a clip show.

And like a previous poster said, it would have been much better if they had done something akin to the Ember Island Players episode of Avatar. It would have been a nice call-back to the original series, and serve to remind us of all the happenings and changes since the show began.

Varricks re-telling was at least amusing, but at this late stage in the game, you'd think that their remaining run-time would be precious, trying to squeeze in as much story as they can to tie up all the various loose ends (although in saying that, there has been a distinct lack of forward momentum this season).
If this episode WAS a result of budget constraints, then that really is a huge shame.

I'm still holding out hope that they show will have the send-off it deserves

Mr.Saturn

Showrunner, writer, co-creator and all-round extraordinaire, Bryan Konietzko, details how a clip-show ended up coming about.


http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/103173899927/a-few-preemptive-words-about-episode-408

In a couple hours the eighth chapter of Korra Book 4 will be released online, and I suppose, if you are none the wiser, a few minutes into it you will feel duped and yell at your screen, “Hey! This is a crummy clips episode!” And that is (almost) exactly what it is––except we all worked really hard to make sure at the very least it isn’t crummy. I’m here to explain why we ended up having to do one. Sometime around a year and a half ago we were similarly duped on a large scale. We got the news from the higher-ups that our Book 4 budget was getting slashed, almost to the tune of an entire episode’s budget. We had two options: 1) let go a significant number of crew members several weeks early, or 2) make a clips episode. We never considered the first option. We weren’t going to do that to our crew, and even if we were callous enough to do so, we never would have been able to finish the season without them. But having grown up on TV in the ’80s and ’90s, we all dread clips episodes, where characters sit around saying, “Remember that time when…” and leftover footage is reheated for no one’s enjoyment. Anyone who suffered through TNG’s “Shades of Gray” knows what I’m talking about.

At least he got word out before the show and didn't try pass it off as anything other than a disappointment.

5 episodes left, so I'm wagering we're coming into a 4 or 5 parter to round it all off.

Now, Remembrances did accomplish a little bit, being fair. It really emphasized how much Korra has changed. The character is so much more relatable than the nadir of early Book 2.

Full_Circle_81

^ I was just going to post that same tumblr link. Nick really aren't worthy of this show at all.

Mr.Saturn

Full_Circle_81 wrote: »

^ I was just going to post that same tumblr link. Nick really aren't worthy of this show at all.

They change executives and content so often it's hard to pin down any one decision. I mean, for a time, Nick were grooming Korra to be Spongebob's replacement as the network's flagship, but that sagged and died on the way, along with their enthusiasm for Korra.

Full_Circle_81

This weeks episode was a definite improvement over the previous couple of weeks, I felt. Some massive progress was made, and it was great to see the return of

zaheer.

Also, had we previously seen the head of the fire nation before, or was that the first time we'd be introduced to the character? I'd like to have spent a little more time with her, to be honest. Lovely design for her too. Very angular.

A Neurotic

Full_Circle_81 wrote: »

This weeks episode was a definite improvement over the previous couple of weeks, I felt. Some massive progress was made, and it was great to see the return of

zaheer.

Also, had we previously seen the head of the fire nation before, or was that the first time we'd be introduced to the character? I'd like to have spent a little more time with her, to be honest. Lovely design for her too. Very angular.

We saw her at Wu's coronation but she didn't speak.

I agree, there's something impressive about her appearance.

Mr.Saturn

I'm impressed by Zaheer's capacity to maintain a goatee. Now, there's a real question.

It was a beautiful episode. Zaheer's about-face was an unexpected boon, but the somewhat relaxed pace of the book thus far really made Korra's return to power all that more emphatic.

Chimaera

Good episode last night. The series finally seems to be coming together. Nice to see all the Beifongs working together, and Kuvira's first major defeat.

I'm still waiting to see the consequences of them firing all this spirit energy around the place: my bet is still on it somehow unlocking Korra's access to her past lives.

I can also see them heading towards a situation like Wan faced where she will have to mediate between humans and spirits to prevent a major conflict. Seems like the spirits are pretty annoyed with humans right now.

Mr.Saturn

Chimaera wrote: »

I'm still waiting to see the consequences of them firing all this spirit energy around the place: my bet is still on it somehow unlocking Korra's access to her past lives.

I'm banking on the fact they were so quick to establish that all Unavaatu accomplished was to sever the direct link between Avatars; there might be more indirect means of communicating with past Avatars, aside from having a chinwag with Zuko. The Wan tidbit from the tree of life, for example.

That was a fantastic episode anywho.

ixoy

More Toph automatically makes it an awesome episode. Loved how the generations of Beifongs interacted and the reconciliation was pitched spot on. A great battle scene too - favourite here being when Lin metal bands a suit of armour around her.

Mr.Saturn

The fact Suyin moves like a waterbender has reignited the debate as to Tophka shipping. I think it's being assumed Lin and Suyin have different dads. Yeah....it's ignoring the fact Sokka wasn't a bender, but hey, it must've been in the genepool.

A Neurotic

Let's take a moment to appreciate this kids' show portraying this middle-aged woman and loving mother as a complete and utter BAMF.

Legend of Korra. It's doing it right.

Full_Circle_81

A Neurotic wrote: »

Let's take a moment to appreciate this kids' show portraying this middle-aged woman and loving mother as a complete and utter BAMF.

Legend of Korra. It's doing it right.

That particular moment reminded me of a similar move Toph pulled off in one of the airships towards the end of season 3 of Avatar. That whole fight scene was so beautifully choreographed as well.

And I completely agree, the interactions between the Beifongs (particularly Lin and Toph) were great to see.

matrim

A Neurotic wrote: »

middle-aged woman and loving mother

Not related to your point but is a metal benders having metal armour is a good idea? Its find against other element benders but surely it's leaving your own armour as something an attacker can use against you if you are fighting another metal bender.

A Neurotic

matrim wrote: »

Not related to your point but is a metal benders having metal armour is a good idea? Its find against other element benders but surely it's leaving your own armour as something an attacker can use against you if you are fighting another metal bender.

I think it was a good idea here because Kuvira was throwing extremely sharp pieces of metal at her.

Otherwise, I presume for one metalbender to mess with another one's armour would provoke a kind of bending tug-of-war thing and probably isn't the best strategy.

Chimaera

Nothing to do with the current series, but it's funny:
http://9gag.com/gag/aVQ2nmP?ref=fb.s

Mr.Saturn

They've been touting the fact the finale is an hour long. Well, the combination of the last two episodes. Now, I wonder, if that's a TV hour, with commercials, or an actual, matter-of-fact hour. They've kept the standard TV running-time of 22 minutes, even within online distribution and having only returned to Nicktoons in the last few weeks.

It's a niggly thing, but it's an extra 10+ minutes of Korra. There was an extra few minutes thrown onto Aang's closing 4-parter.

ixoy

Mr.Saturn wrote: »

They've been touting the fact the finale is an hour long. Well, the combination of the last two episodes. Now, I wonder, if that's a TV hour, with commercials, or an actual, matter-of-fact hour.

I'd be shocked if it's more than TV hour, so only actually 44 minutes or so of TV. It's nearly always how they present things in the US. Even more likely now that it's airing on the TV station itself and not just online.

Chimaera

Well then. I wasn't quite expecting Kuvira to be that psychotic. I don't see how Batar will do anything other than help Korra now that Kuvira has tried to kill him. Perhaps a little obvious from a plot point of view, but I guess they need to move the plot quickly now.

The cost cutting is obvious all over the place in this episode too: all the stills during the evacuation especially. I just hope they've saved it all for next week's finale.

ixoy

Chimaera wrote: »

Well then. I wasn't quite expecting Kuvira to be that psychotic. I don't see how Batar will do anything other than help Korra now that Kuvira has tried to kill him.

Kuvira will see it merely as weighing the pros and cons - a clean surgical kill will achieve her aims better than a prolonged battle. Batar just a casualty of war. She's a cold fish.
You're right though - Batar will just tell the rest the machine's weak point and off they go to take it out. I'm guessing the first half of the story next week will be the battle and then it will focus on picking up the pieces an deciding how to progress.

The cost cutting is obvious all over the place in this episode too: all the stills during the evacuation especially. I just hope they've saved it all for next week's finale.

Yep - I noticed that. We're watching "Attack on Titan" at the moment too and they use those sort of scenes a lot but I can't recall seeing it in Avatar before.

Mr E

Caught up this morning (skipping remembrances) and I'm up to date. The last few episodes were very good. The Baatar development in the last episode was a bit predictable though. Hopefully there will still be a few surprises in the closing episodes.

Mr.Saturn

ixoy wrote: »

Yep - I noticed that. We're watching "Attack on Titan" at the moment too and they use those sort of scenes a lot but I can't recall seeing it in Avatar before.

They did it a bit in Book 1 of Korra.

Lin's "I'll see if there's any survivors" and the fact Kuvira pretty much shot at all the important players, makes me wonder if they're offing someone next week.

Mr E wrote: »

Caught up this morning (skipping remembrances) and I'm up to date. The last few episodes were very good. The Baatar development in the last episode was a bit predictable though. Hopefully there will still be a few surprises in the closing episodes.

Remembrances is worth it for the 4-5 minutes of new content they shoved in there. It's got a couple of interesting character bits, with Korra and Mako, but the Bolin and Varrick business nearly saves the whole thing. Byrne and Higgins are a match made in comedy heaven.

They did a live table-read at Comic Con 2012, and how anyone gets any work done around Bryne is amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jJdMjYdTMM

red dave

Yeah I also think one or two people were killed in that attack

Peregrine

Someone told me season 4 was only 7 episodes long so I stopped watching after Wu got captured in episode 7! Aaah!!!

That explains why the end didn't make sense, I thought there'll be a new season.

I'm such an idiot! If I hadn't seen this thread, I would never have seen the rest :eek: