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Hyperspin, finally done.

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    #122
    kevin2me
    Registered Users Posts: 697 ✭✭✭kevin2me


    Sparks thats plenty powerful, Its Core Duo as well making it even better,
    Hyperspin is CPU intensive and yours should handle it just fine.
    Kev


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    #123
    Sparks43
    Registered Users Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Time to get a few beers in tonight and give it a good lash so:D


    Cheers guys


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    #124
    Steve X2
    Registered Users Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    It also depends a lot on what resolution you're running it at.

    The higher your resolution is over 1024x768 then the more hyperspin has to work as it has to resize the artwork,menus etc.
    Hyperspin is designed to run natively at 1024x768. Anything else and it has to do a bit more work.

    The new version of hyperspin is designed to work better with higher and lower resolution than 1024x768 and not use as much CPU time. But we are still waiting for that version :(

    I think your specs will be fine unless you are running it at 1920x1080 with all effects on.

    I'm running my Hyperspin at 2560x1600 on my main PC and that needs a decent machine.
    But I'm also running it on a barebones pc I've built to go into an arcade machine with an arcade monitor and thats at 800x600 and runs very well on a system similar to your specs.


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    #125
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Steve SI wrote: »
    I'm running my Hyperspin at 2560x1600 on my main PC

    What is the point of doing that though? None of the preview videos are captured at even close to that resolution, & the themes look fine at standard resolution, whats the point running the res so high?


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    #126
    Steve X2
    Registered Users Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    EnterNow wrote: »
    What is the point of doing that though? None of the preview videos are captured at even close to that resolution, & the themes look fine at standard resolution, whats the point running the res so high?

    Because that's the native resolution of my main PC's monitor. It's more to play around with than to actual use hyperspin. I have PC games setup on my Hyperspin and I've done my own preview videos for them in 1080p. It's just me tinkering around with hyperspin really. I mean I've set it up for use in my Candy Cab when it arrives so thats at 800x600 and lower.

    And trust me, the artwork and interface looks great at 2560x1600 on a decent 30" monitor, with my own custom artwork and themes and particle effects.

    I don't just download what everyone else has for hyperspin and use it, I create my own artwork and themes and that's the best way to do it if you can.

    You can do much more than just run MAME on hyperspin :D

    Sometimes I even run Hyperspin through my projector for the craic, it looks well on a 200" display but the retro games look poo.


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    #127
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Steve SI wrote: »
    Because that's the native resolution of my main PC's monitor. It's more to play around with than to actual use hyperspin. I have PC games setup on my Hyperspin and I've done my own preview videos for them in 1080p. It's just me tinkering around with hyperspin really. I mean I've set it up for use in my Candy Cab when it arrives so thats at 800x600 and lower.

    And trust me, the artwork and interface looks great at 2560x1600 on a decent 30" monitor, with my own custom artwork and themes and particle effects.

    I don't just download what everyone else has for hyperspin and use it, I create my own artwork and themes and that's the best way to do it if you can.

    You can do much more than just run MAME on hyperspin :D

    Sometimes I even run Hyperspin through my projector for the craic, it looks well on a 200" display but the retro games look poo.


    .

    All valid points, but HS is normally just a UI or launcher, with the application settings being controlled by the programme your launching. So if your using HS to launch a game, HS doesn't have to be at the resolution that the game is set at. I'm sure you know all that, its just tiresome hearing HS needing a quantum computer to run well (not by you, just in general), it really doesn't.

    Fair play re your own artwork etc, your probably utilising HS more than the average user in that respect. But in general for Mame cabs etc, depending on monitor size, the lower the res the better.


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    #128
    Optimus Prime
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    well i had similiar spec to you but with 4gb of ram and the themes on my mine where very jumpy when loading, so i stuck in another 4gigs and its flying now.

    It will run mame no problem but might have an issue or two with loading the hyperspin themes, try it out and see.


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    #129
    Sparks43
    Registered Users Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Think this might need a couple of crates of beer



    Have had some joy but i cannot get speccy working :mad:


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    #130
    Optimus Prime
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    Guys i rebuilt the pc etc and im looking to get my "Favourites" to start when mame starts instead of the full list of games.. i know had it like this before but i cant remember for the life of me how i did it.!!


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    #131
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    keithgeo wrote: »
    Guys i rebuilt the pc etc and im looking to get my "Favourites" to start when mame starts instead of the full list of games.. i know had it like this before but i cant remember for the life of me how i did it.!!

    A very important lesson. Once your cab is built, never touch the settings again, ever.


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    #132
    Optimus Prime
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    Haha.. i know. it was crashing on me had no choice! God damned i cant figure it out, i had it going perfect before.


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    #133
    Optimus Prime
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    found it, finally. there was something wrong with how i installed hyperspin none of the settings would save. anyways for future reference, its in mame.ini, in the hyperspin\settings folder -

    start_on_favourites=true

    :D


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    #134
    Optimus Prime
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    No hi score support in mame .144 though doh!!


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    #135
    Andrew76
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,381 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    keithgeo wrote: »
    found it, finally. there was something wrong with how i installed hyperspin none of the settings would save. anyways for future reference, its in mame.ini, in the hyperspin\settings folder -

    start_on_favourites=true

    :D

    Excellent thanks for that! :)


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    #136
    Optimus Prime
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    yep its great saves your scrolling through everything.


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    #137
    Steve X2
    Registered Users Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    keithgeo wrote: »
    No hi score support in mame .144 though doh!!

    I've a recompiled version with hiscore, nonag and cave support for .144


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    #138
    Optimus Prime
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    I could never figure out that recompile stuff, it was just too confusing.. if you where to say.. share that with me... would it work? :)


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    #139
    Steve X2
    Registered Users Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    keithgeo wrote: »
    I could never figure out that recompile stuff, it was just too confusing.. if you where to say.. share that with me... would it work? :)

    Yeah, it'd work fine.
    I think I have a few versions of it up on the members download section on retrovia.ie but I'll check later on and stick up any other versions I have so you can grab the one you want(64bit,32bit, with gui or without etc).

    I've not put much up on retrovia in a while, been working on my other sites and a new tech blog so it's been ignored a bit. I'll have to remedy that soon.

    Might be the morning until I get to it.

    Either way it will work fine for you. You'll want the cave roms as well but sure we can't talk about that here :D


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    #140
    Optimus Prime
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    Cool, thanks steve!


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    #141
    Steve X2
    Registered Users Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    keithgeo wrote: »
    Cool, thanks steve!

    I've just stuck the best version up on retrovia.ie now.
    I think you said you had 8GB of ram so I guess you'll want the "MAME v0.144 64bit emulator with NONAG, HISCORE patch and CAVE drivers" compile.



    .


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    #142
    Optimus Prime
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    Steve SI wrote: »
    I've just stuck the best version up on retrovia.ie now.
    I think you said you had 8GB of ram so I guess you'll want the "MAME v0.144 64bit emulator with NONAG, HISCORE patch and CAVE drivers" compile.



    .

    That brilliant thanks a lot, ill grab it tomorrow morning! couldnt live without my hi scores!


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    #143
    Steve X2
    Registered Users Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    keithgeo wrote: »
    That brilliant thanks a lot, ill grab it tomorrow morning! couldnt live without my hi scores!

    No probs, a man needs his hi score support.

    .


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    #144
    Optimus Prime
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    Steve, i must be missing something on the Hiscore front, ive setup that mame version and all is good, no nag screens etc. but its not saving hi scores for me for some reason, any ideas? Im not using Hyperlaunch at the minute, i have the mame\hi folder in there.. cheers.


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    #145
    Steve X2
    Registered Users Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    keithgeo wrote: »
    Steve, i must be missing something on the Hiscore front, ive setup that mame version and all is good, no nag screens etc. but its not saving hi scores for me for some reason, any ideas? Im not using Hyperlaunch at the minute, i have the mame\hi folder in there.. cheers.

    Have you got the mame hiscore.dat file?
    Hiscore.dat is a complimentary file to help Mame in saving high scores.
    Most Mame games save their high scores by default, but over 2500 games
    do not save their high scores.

    The Hiscore.dat file tells Mame some additional information and how to read and store the high scores using the /hi directory instead of /nvram.

    I've attached it to this post as its completely legal and above board.

    From the readme file:
    This is the hiscore.dat for the m.a.m.e. emulator.
    This file used in conjunction with a specially compiled mame that supports the hiscore.dat file
    will save many more hiscores than the regular build of mame.

    Just extract the hiscoredat.zip into the folder that your mame.exe is in.

    NOTE :- you need a mame build that supports the hiscore.dat

    .


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    #146
    Optimus Prime
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    Hey was just coming back to reply, yeh i didnt have the hiscore.dat! id copied it over there from a backup and it worked.. amateur mistake!

    thanks for that


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    #147
    Steve X2
    Registered Users Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    keithgeo wrote: »
    Hey was just coming back to reply, yeh i didnt have the hiscore.dat! id copied it over there from a backup and it worked.. amateur mistake!

    thanks for that

    No worries.
    Remember that the hiscore.dat file needs to be updated regularly as well.
    The one I've attached is the most up to date as of today.

    .


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    #148
    Optimus Prime
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    Steve SI wrote: »
    No worries.
    Remember that the hiscore.dat file needs to be updated regularly as well.
    The one I've attached is the most up to date as of today.

    .

    what does that file do? add support for more games?


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    #149
    Steve X2
    Registered Users Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    keithgeo wrote: »
    what does that file do? add support for more games?
    I think it enables hiscores on games that dont support them in mame. I'm not 100 percent sure on it to be honest. It's updated with scores that are submitted to the team so you can submit your hiscore and others can try beat it when the updated .dat file is released.

    http://highscore.mameworld.info/


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    #150
    kevin2me
    Registered Users Posts: 697 ✭✭✭kevin2me


    Nice one steve, Downloaded it there,
    Im going to try play around with v144 tomorrow,

    Ive never had HighScores working yet so be great to have.
    I current have full 131 rom set loaded with Mame 141 I think,
    I know the should mathc but 90% of all games i want to play seen to work fine.

    With mame v144 and old romset will things completely go out of whack,
    I test tomorrow and see, but must its on my todo list to get a matching set asap regardless.

    Does likes of newer Mame like v144 help run more intensive games run better
    like Carnevil, SF2 EX and such, or is this always dependent on RAM\CPU

    Thanks kev


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    #151
    Optimus Prime
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    i think mame is software driven so those games will be like that no matter what the hardware is, i could be wrong.


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