Gerry Adams : Knife through Butter ?

phantom_lord

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

There is no perhaps about it, he masterminded SF becoming the largest party in the north and them near tripling their seats in the Dáil, as well as personally topping the poll.

Unless he engineered the international financial crisis I don't see how he masterminded them tripling their seats. He may have topped the poll but he was only taking over a safe SF seat in the first place.

Wolfe Tone

phantom_lord wrote: »

Unless he engineered the international financial crisis I don't see how he masterminded them tripling their seats. He may have topped the poll but he was only taking over a safe SF seat in the first place.

We get it, you just dont like Gerry Adams.

phantom_lord

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

We get it, you just dont like Gerry Adams.

We get it, you're incapable of rational or objective debate when it comes to republicanism or socialism.

wow sierra

Adams contested about the safest Sinn Fein seat possible - if he was such a huge asset to the party why wasn't he risked somewhere else?

I admire Adams for what he did for the Peace process and representing Nationalist views in the North. I am not anti Sinn Fein or anti Gerry Adams.

All that said I am not sure if he is an asset to the party down here. His performance on day one in the Dáil was the worst of all the speakers - and I mean all of the speakers - worse than any of the new independents on their first day. It took Pearse Doherty to win back some credibility for Sinn Fein from the likes of Joe Higgins or even Richard Boyd Barrett.

I have voted for Sinn Fein in the past but I would by far prefer to see Christy Burke instead of MaryLou and Arthur Morgan instead of Gerry Adams. But then again I probably wont vote for them again anyway - I would have voted for Christy Burke if I still lived in Dublin Central, definitely.

K-9

He doesn't seem to have had much impact at the polls anyway. Probably no effect either way.

The Scientician

A_Border_Bandit wrote: »

Án cát. Tá tú an noób mo chara.

Disappointed, I thought there was a hilarious video being linked of Gerry at breakfast or something

Would it not be "Is tusa an núb"?

Cakes.

The Scientician wrote: »

Would it not be "Is tusa an núb"?

No, Is núb thú. :P

The Scientician

Cakesofrice wrote: »

No, Is núb thú. :P

Gurrah meelah

meditraitor

The Scientician wrote: »

Gurrah meelah

maw agut

celtictiger32

phantom_lord wrote: »

You seem to be attributing the increase in SF seats to Gerry Adams when it was mostly just an anti-FF backlash.

phantom_lord wrote: »

Enda deserves credit for rebuilding the party after the 2002 disaster but FG were always going to walk this election.

FG may well have gained a majority if he hadn't lead during this campaign though, same goes for SF, they might would have done better if they had been led by someone like Pearse Doherty, and particularly for the long term.

Pointing out the gains from 2007 and attributing it to Adams broadening the appeal of the party is pretty silly though.

was the success of fg a ff backlash aswell??? enda kenny seems to be getting a lot of praise for guiding his party to its election success but not gerry adams????
double standards i thinks;)

dlofnep

phantom_lord wrote: »

Unless he engineered the international financial crisis I don't see how he masterminded them tripling their seats. He may have topped the poll but he was only taking over a safe SF seat in the first place.

I suppose the hard work on the ground had nothing to do with it? I suppose the financial crisis was the direct cause of them becoming the largest political party in the north?

K-9

celtictiger32 wrote: »

was the success of fg a ff backlash aswell??? enda kenny seems to be getting a lot of praise for guiding his party to its election success but not gerry adams????
double standards i thinks;)

Part of it probably was and the 25% or so FF lost had to go somewhere, but it seems Labour benefited just as much as FG there.

Personally, I think Enda cost FG an overall majority. They might never come as close again.

As for Adams, I don't think he increased the SF percentage in polls and really they should have been getting in the region of 12-15 seats. They had TD's that had lost seats in 07 that had a great chance of getting in, the 2 Donegal TD's who came so close in 07, Gerry in Louth and a couple of others they'd a great chance of getting.