Japanese earthquake / tsunami discussion

Thrill

3rd drop was on reactor 4

Rob A. Bank

I wonder if its fresh or salt water ?

Waterbombing the roof of no. 4 too

There was steam visible so they definately hitting something very hot in No. 3

x in the city

guys

its pretty clear that the whole nuclear plant is shagged... the Japanese really screwed up and should admit we screwed up and actually need serious help here.

the people around the plant are holed up inside houses and dont know whats going on, people in tokyo today said they are not happy with the governments actions.

why are the homeless not sent to the stadiums around sendai and etc while things are sorted out and not camped into schools.

I would be worried about radiation even getting as far as tokyo, if i was there i would get the hell out also.

It is a huge nuclear plant they got there, and the japanese are making light of the whole event it seems and then when it is probably too late they will admit how bad things are.

i can only pray that things dont escalate into the unthinkable

Thrill

I think the presenter said that the copters will continue to take water from the ocean. 100 to 200 trips?

uprising2

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

I wonder if its fresh or salt water ?

Waterbombing the roof of no. 4 too

There was steam visible so they definately hitting something very hot in No. 3

SALT from the sea.

Probably the steam is whatever water actually hit something hot, the whole operation doesn't look too convincing so far, they are too high and can't hover, the downwind from the rotors is just turning it to a spray.

maquiladora

I just saw one of the drops, did it look like they were getting much water in there?

hmmm

An expert commentator on CNN just said that the biggest risk in this operation is that the falling water tips over the fuel rods and sets off a nuclear reaction - that might explain why they are spraying the area and not dumping directly into the shells.

Run_to_da_hills

x in the city wrote: »

guys

its pretty clear that the whole nuclear plant is shagged... the Japanese really screwed up and should admit we screwed up and actually need serious help here.

the people around the plant are holed up inside houses and dont know whats going on, people in tokyo today said they are not happy with the governments actions.

why are the homeless not sent to the stadiums around sendai and etc while things are sorted out and not camped into schools.

I would be worried about radiation even getting as far as tokyo, if i was there i would get the hell out also.

It is a huge nuclear plant they got there, and the japanese are making light of the whole event it seems and then when it is probably too late they will admit how bad things are.

i can only pray that things dont escalate into the unthinkable

A lot of them already have access to sat media and are dubious of their own Government,

andrew

I wonder if it's close enough to the sea that they could use tug boat based water cannons

Thrill

11 water canon trucks on the way.

uprising2

andrew wrote: »

I wonder if it's close enough to the sea that they could use tug boat based water cannons

Its on the coast, but its the radiation thats the problem.

maquiladora

Isn't using seawater risky, shouldnt they be using demineralised water?

Sharpshooter

ilovesleep wrote: »

Can we send brian cowen over to help? With the amout of lard he is carrying, he'd be well protected from radiation.

Stinicker wrote: »

There would be the danger he might mutate into some Godzilla like creature, or worse still give political advise further worsening the situation. He would do well in the Sumo Wrestling though I reckon. A containment zone around Clara minimising his risk to everyone would be the best bet I think

Did either of you read the Mod note?

This is a really informative thread and posts like yours are just interrupting the flow.

Continue posting but leave out the crap!

hmmm

A casualty list has been published
https://www.facebook.com/notes/international-atomic-energy-agency-iaea/japanese-earthquake-update-17-march-0115-utc/202364423126685

uprising2

maquiladora wrote: »

Isn't using seawater risky, shouldnt they be using demineralised water?

At this stage I don't think they're too fussy about type of water.

Rob A. Bank

maquiladora wrote: »

Isn't using seawater risky, shouldnt they be using demineralised water?

Ideally... but it's desperate measures now. Everything will get caked in salt and make further cooling more difficult.

I wonder if some of the high drops of water were to 'clean' the area to decrease the radiation for the water cannon guys who are supposed to come in soon.

Thrill

Reactor no 3 priority for the trucks. Not 4.

uprising2

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Ideally... but it's desperate measures now. Everything will get caked in salt and make further cooling more difficult.

I wonder if some of the high drops of water were to 'clean' the area to decrease the radiation for the water cannon guys who are supposed to come in soon.

Water cannon guys, I really can't see this happening, I think they will show up as close as possible and turn and run, it's a face saving proposal, but it would be a suicide mission if it does go ahead.

maquiladora

uprising2 wrote: »

At this stage I don't think they're too fussy about type of water.

Salt and minerals in the seawater could be carried up through the stream though right?

I guess they are desperate now.

uprising2

Yen hits alltime high........so ****ing what......yen buying...........


They leave the live feed for this bolloxology, the yen will be worth fukkall if they only have mutants to spend it.

Worry about the money after you have an inhabital island.

Rob A. Bank

maquiladora wrote: »

Salt and minerals in the seawater could be carried up through the stream though right?

I guess they are desperate now.

No... the water will evaporate leaving a skin of salt behind on the hottest parts... this will increase as time goes on making cooling more difficult.

Thrill

Water spray operations have been suspended temporarily

The helicopters are gone now, in order to minimise the crews' exposure to radiation - NHK.

A lead plate is attached to the bottom of each chopper and the crew are wearing protective suits - NHK.

uprising2

Thrill wrote: »

The helicopters are gone now, in order to minimise the crews' exposure to radiation - NHK.

A lead plate is attached to the bottom of each chopper and the crew are wearing protective suits - NHK.

So did they explain how the watercannon guys are going to do it?

Thrill

uprising2 wrote: »

So did they explain how the watercannon guys are going to do it?

The chopper operations have been suspended temporarily.

I'm assuming they'll be back. Maybe the radiation levels rose too high.

hmmm

uprising2 wrote: »

So did they explain how the watercannon guys are going to do it?

I wonder do they have (or have they built) some sort of NBC watercannon truck. There's no way you'd bring in an ordinary truck.

andrew

I get the impression that the Japanese would be perfectly willing to go on a suicide mission if it was asked of them. With a history featuring Kamikaei and Seppuku it doesn't seem as though they'd have any problem with dying a death they preceive to be honourable.

Rob A. Bank

uprising2 wrote: »

So did they explain how the watercannon guys are going to do it?

11 watercannon trucks from the Tokyo riot squad on the way

Thrill

TEPCO anticipate restoring power to No. 1 Fukushima this afternoon

Turtwig

Thrill wrote: »

TEPCO anticipate restoring power to No. 1 Fukushima this afternoon

Best bit of news I've read all day. Fingers tightly crossed that they make it.:)

uprising2

Thrill wrote: »

The chopper operations have been suspended temporarily

Yea so I cant see the 11 watercannon trucks on standby being able to be used, the "protected" helicoptors only dropped 2 each?, then had enough radiation from the brief flyovers.

hmmm wrote: »

I wonder do they have (or have they built) some sort of NBC watercannon truck. There's no way you'd bring in an ordinary truck.

They were showing fairly ordinary looking trucks earlier on, normal firetrucks and police riot control watercannon trucks that can't possibly get close enough for long enough, the trucks will be glowing bright green.