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Japanese earthquake / tsunami discussion

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    #482
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Nice to see such healthy people at 3am


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    #483
    Brenireland
    Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Brenireland


    have we any nuclear Mods here or any Nuclear no-it-alls?,If one station goes pop could it do a domino on it and all surrounding nuclear stations go to?


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    #484
    Leiva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    quick .....

    http://edition.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream/2&hpt=T1


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    #485
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    American tv is so sugar-coated


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    #486
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Is it me or is the picture quality for CNN appalling? Looks like old school youtube


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    #487
    Mister men
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    Raised state of alert at the nuclear reactor now. ****.


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    #488
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,014 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    mgmt wrote: »
    Heightened State of Alert at Nuclear Power Plant.

    Wave about to hit Hawawii
    Well of course there is an SOE. The plant operators would want to be on alert right now. It's not indicative of an imminent problem, it's a pro-active response.

    Well, that and they want to get that cooling system back online. But thats the point of having emergency procedures in place.


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    #489
    mgmt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭mgmt


    mike65 wrote: »
    Is it me or is the picture quality for CNN apalling? Looks like old school youtube

    Imagine a Tsumani is about to hit Hawaii in the next couple of minutes and CNN goes on a flippin ad break.


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    #490
    gbee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    Brenireland wrote: »
    have we any nuclear Mods here or any Nuclear no-it-alls?,If one station goes pop could it do a domino on it and all surrounding nuclear stations go to?

    No.


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    #491
    mgmt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭mgmt


    AND IT HITS HAWAII


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    #492
    gman2k
    Registered Users Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭gman2k


    Brenireland wrote: »
    have we any nuclear Mods here or any Nuclear no-it-alls?,If one station goes pop could it do a domino on it and all surrounding nuclear stations go to?

    No.

    And nuclear reactors do not go 'pop' like nuclear explosions.
    They may have a runaway reaction, which will catch fire to the piles and maybe explode the reactor building.
    There are numerous safety and redundant systems for cooling the reactor piles.
    They are not all watercooled either. Gas cooling amongst others is used.


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    #493
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,014 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    snubbleste wrote: »
    American tv is so sugar-coated
    We dip things in chocolate and call it low-fat.

    What did you expect?


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    #494
    krudler
    Registered Users Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    mgmt wrote: »
    AND IT HITS HAWAII

    sky news producers are rubbing their hands with glee


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    #495
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users Posts: 24,506 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    krudler wrote: »
    sky news producers are rubbing their hands with glee

    sky news showing some business lunchtime rubbish...


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    #496
    Brenireland
    Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Brenireland


    This is Big do,One of the Worlds Biggest economies crippled,for how long who knows,Big chemical explosion now in japan.


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    #497
    Shulgin
    Registered Users Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Shulgin


    They have finished showing the wall

    http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/179959/33/Tsunami-barrels-toward-Hawaii-US-western-coast-LIVE

    Some live video now.


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    #498
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,014 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    gman2k wrote: »
    No.

    And nuclear reactors do not go 'pop' like nuclear explosions.
    They may have a runaway reaction, which will catch fire to the piles and maybe explode the reactor building.
    There are numerous safety and redundant systems for cooling the reactor piles.
    They are not all watercooled either. Gas cooling amongst others is used.
    They don't have a runaway reaction. The one that triggered a local evacuation had a failure in it's diesel-powered cooling system. This doesnt equate to a runaway reaction.

    Also when you say runaway reaction, you mean a nuclear detonation? No. a Meltdown may occur. The runaway reaction, certainly not. Reactors do not use weapons-grade material. Weapons Grade is very highly enriched and must during a detonation reach what is known as Critical Mass. Reactors meanwhile aren't designed with those kind of potentials.

    'Meltdown' more or less describes the situation at the power plant, where the cooling system is failing and the core is overheating:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_meltdown
    Nuclear fission weapons must use an extremely high quality, highly-enriched fuel exceeding the critical size and geometry (critical mass) in order to obtain an explosive chain reaction. The fuel for a nuclear fission reactor is very different, usually consisting of a low-enriched oxide material (e.g. UO2). It is impossible for a nuclear power plant to undergo an explosive nuclear chain reaction. Chernobyl was a steam explosion, not a nuclear explosion.[7] Furthermore, all power plants licensed in the United States require a negative void coefficient of reactivity, which completely eliminates the possibility of the accident that occurred at Chernobyl (which was due to a positive void coefficient).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_chain_reaction


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    #499
    SeaFields
    Registered Users Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Good old RTE. Sean O'Rourke has Eamon Gilmore (minister for foreign affairs) and he is grilling him on why Joan Burton didn't get a stronger cabinet position.


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    #500
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    SeaFields wrote: »
    Good old RTE. Sean O'Rourke has Eamon Gilmore (minister for foreign affairs) and he is grilling him on why Joan Burton didn't get a stronger cabinet position.

    Makes a change from 'oh have'nt you get a lovely tie on today'


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    #501
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users Posts: 24,506 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Brenireland wrote: »
    ,Big chemical explosion now in japan.

    any more on what it was?


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    #502
    dory
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,497 Mod ✭✭✭✭dory


    300 people found dead Miyagi, death toll is rising fast as expected.

    Source is a local guy in Tokyo via Twitter.


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    #503
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Jiji Press news agency reporting 200-300 human bodies on the beach in Sendai


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    #504
    ilovesleep
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    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    I can't imagine they would.

    If there is a major explosion you may get radioactive dust over Europe a few days / weeks later though

    Cheers I was worried planes flying today around europe may be in trouble. Obviously airspace over japan and surrounding areas would be shut.


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    #505
    Brenireland
    Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Brenireland


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    any more on what it was?

    Sorry not at the moment,keep your eye on sky news live on sky news.com.


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    #506
    Mister men
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭Mister men


    dory wrote: »
    300 people found dead Miyagi, death toll is rising fast as expected.
    God knows where the death toll will end up when the sun rises.


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    #507
    Turtwig
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    Brenireland wrote: »
    If one station goes pop could it do a domino on it and all surrounding nuclear stations go to?


    Nuclear is kinda of that thing that people get all flexed up and fearful of but sometimes that fear is complete irrational. :) People within the radius of the plant are being evacuated as a precautionary measure. There isn't going to be huge chain reaction affecting all the nuclear plants. If there's gonna be anything then there's gonna be one reactor meltdown. Though it must be stressed barring some extreme misfortune this won't happen.:)


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    #508
    Cookie_Monster
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    Brenireland wrote: »
    Sorry not at the moment,keep your eye on sky news live on sky news.com.

    opera has just been turned on the tv in work for lunchtime as usual :rolleyes:


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    #509
    Leiva
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    http://www.youtube.com/user/RussiaToday#p/u/0/ZqhKzMNTdZ4


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    #510
    Hogzy
    Registered Users Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    200-300 bodies just found along the northeastern coast of Japan :(


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    #511
    Ganymede Glow
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    Sky reporting Hawaii has been hit :(


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