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Japanese earthquake / tsunami discussion

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    #842
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Raskolnikov wrote: »
    The Russians lied about Chernobyl for no reason other than they were too proud to seek help. Also, the Tokyo Electric Power Company are publicly run, perhaps they will downplay what is happening to protect the share price - BP did it after all.
    I doubt much in the way of lies is going to make a massive difference to the share price. Also, as I've said and Overheal has said:
    Overheal wrote: »
    Possible but unlikely. Theres direct int'l involvement here now (and no cold war). There's also the fact that everything is going textbook without going textbook - that is, obviously they have reported problems but they have gotten the cooling back online, and it's been playing out exactly as analysts have predicted, with them shortly needing to vent off steam to keep the chamber pressure stable.

    I'll bet you a tenner now that says they will find no cause for misconduct.
    There'll be several plans in place for this kind of thing. The news talking about a "state of emergency" is somewhat inappropriate in my view, this is the kind of thing that will be drilled and practiced often.
    dreamer_ire wrote: »
    Reuters reporting 4 trains missing along coastal routes. I imagine we are going to be hearing more and more of these stories. Thoughts are with them.
    Terrible, really awful. Saw one clip of cars getting caught in it, just awful. :(


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    #843
    amacachi
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    iguana wrote: »
    The emergency services went from door to door in the regions the water was expected to hit. Hours before the water came in. But helicopter footage from one of the American channels showed crowds gathered in Santa Cruz to watch the "spectacle." I just hope that if there really are dead in California that it isn't emergency services workers trying to help idiots.

    As cold as it may be to say it I completely agree with you.


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    #844
    Raskolnikov
    Registered Users Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    Pompey Magnus wrote: »
    The Japanese Nuclear Power industry has a bit of a bad name for lies and cover ups, a few years ago the Fukushima station was inspected and over half the pipes in the Number 3 reactor were damaged and corroded, this however was covered up by Tokyo Electric Power and the Japanese government.

    I wouldn't take what they say as Gospel just quite yet.
    Yep.

    Until I see some Japanese scientist in a lab coat at the the plant, I will be uneasy about this.


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    #845
    gargleblaster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭gargleblaster


    iguana wrote: »
    The emergency services went from door to door in the regions the water was expected to hit. Hours before the water came in. But helicopter footage from one of the American channels showed crowds gathered in Santa Cruz to watch the "spectacle." I just hope that if there really are dead in California that it isn't emergency services workers trying to help idiots.

    wow, that is sad. thanks for the information.


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    #846
    darkman2
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    bc dub wrote: »
    IMO, God didn't do **** today.


    THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!!!!


    *I blame St Anthony personally. He always was a bit of a rouge that fella.


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    #847
    Mister men
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    Raskolnikov wrote: »
    Yep.

    Until I see some Japanese scientist in a lab coat at the the plant, I will be uneasy about this.
    Until i see the Japanese PM at the plant not some random scientist i'll be uneasy.


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    #848
    Chardee MacDennis
    Registered Users Posts: 9,225 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    iguana wrote: »
    The emergency services went from door to door in the regions the water was expected to hit. Hours before the water came in. But helicopter footage from one of the American channels showed crowds gathered in Santa Cruz to watch the "spectacle." I just hope that if there really are dead in California that it isn't emergency services workers trying to help idiots.

    And there was emergency broadcasts, in California anyway, there was every effort made to warn people.


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    #849
    darkman2
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    It's funny watching Sky News salavating over the whole thing. You can sense the disappointment that there has not been mass destruction in other countries.


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    #850
    gman2k
    Registered Users Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭gman2k


    Just watching NHK at the moment on satellite, it seems they are still telling residents to stay away from coastal areas due to risk of further tsunamis from very strong aftershocks - 6.5 in some shocks


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    #851
    old hippy
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    darkman2 wrote: »
    It's funny watching Sky News salavating over the whole thing. You can sense the disappointment that there has not been mass destruction in other countries.

    This is why I tend to watch other news channels, there's something morbid and unsavoury about Sky News.


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    #852
    Mister men
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭Mister men


    darkman2 wrote: »
    It's funny watching Sky News salavating over the whole thing. You can sense the disappointment that there has not been mass destruction in other countries.
    Agreed. They are gutted the Western seaboard of the states has'nt been destroyed. They would of got weeks worth of news out of that.


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    #853
    Thrill
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    Pompey Magnus wrote: »
    With the amount of warnings that the tsunami was approaching I can only guess these were idiots who wanted to get a closer look and some cool photo's for facebook and so got too close instead of using their brains and staying the f*ck away.



    Coast Guard searches for man swept out to sea in Northern Calif. while taking pics of tsunami - AP


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    #854
    deise go deo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭deise go deo


    darkman2 wrote: »
    THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!!!!


    *I blame St Anthony personally. He always was a bit of a rouge that fella.


    Can people please stop trying to point score agains religion, it is quite distastful.:(


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    #855
    darkman2
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    Mister men wrote: »
    Agreed. They are gutted the Western seaboard of the states has'nt been destroyed. They would of got weeks worth of news out of that.

    Charlie Brooker will have a field day with this;)


    It's like they are trying to produce a rolling disaster movie. They actually played the video from a helicopter of some poor guy running for his life from the wall of water obviously about to be killed or something only slightly less worse quite frankly. "We cannot say if the man survived".


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    #856
    Pompey Magnus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    deise go deo wrote: »
    Can people please stop trying to point score agains religion, it is quite distastful.:(

    Its almost as distasteful as people trying to score points for God any time of massive death and destruction from a natural disaster and one child is pulled from the rubble, all of a sudden its a "Miracle" and "Praise be to God", ignoring all the hundred of dead who weren't saved.

    It works both ways you know.


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    #857
    deise go deo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭deise go deo


    Pompey Magnus wrote: »
    Its almost as distasteful as people trying to score points for God any time of massive death and destruction from a natural disaster and one child is pulled from the rubble, all of a sudden its a "Miracle" and "Praise be to God", ignoring all the hundred of dead who weren't saved.

    It works both ways you know.


    It dosent work at all, it is simply disrespectful to those who have died.


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    #858
    Raskolnikov
    Registered Users Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    Reuters: Japan trade ministry says pressure inside reactor may have risen to 2.1 times designed capacity


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    #859
    Turtwig
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    deise go deo wrote: »
    It dosent work at all, it is simply disrespectful to those who have died.

    How so? Anyone who survives by the merest struck of good fortune will probably be seen as a divine miracle. People will be thankful to God for surviving but nobody would dare blame Him for the quake in the first place. In all honesty that's just wrong.


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    #860
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Pompey Magnus wrote: »
    It works both ways you know.

    Even with Shinto?


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    #861
    Shulgin
    Registered Users Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Shulgin


    Malty_T wrote: »
    How so? Anyone who survives by the merest struck of good fortune will probably be seen as a divine miracle. People will be thankful to God for surviving but nobody would dare blame Him for the quake in the first place. In all honesty that's just wrong.


    Just stop


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    #862
    BrookieD
    Registered Users Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    Malty_T wrote: »
    How so? Anyone who survives by the merest struck of good fortune will probably be seen as a divine miracle. People will be thankful to God for surviving but nobody would dare blame Him for the quake in the first place. In all honesty that's just wrong.

    A discussion best left on another thread people :rolleyes:


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    #863
    deise go deo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭deise go deo


    Malty_T wrote: »
    How so? Anyone who survives by the merest struck of good fortune will probably be seen as a divine miracle. People will be thankful to God for surviving but nobody would dare blame Him for the quake in the first place. In all honesty that's just wrong.



    In all honesty, using other peoples tragedy as an oppertunity to score points against some peoples beliefs is not just wrong, its pathetic.:mad:


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    #864
    Konata
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,164 ✭✭✭Konata


    What really puts this quake into perspective is the fact that Japan's strongest earthquake before this was in 1923, measuring magnitude 8.3. The Kobe earthquake of 1996 measured 7.2.

    Scary comparisons :(


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    #865
    Micky Dolenz
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    Please stay on topic.


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    #866
    gman2k
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    Konata wrote: »
    What really puts this quake into perspective is the fact that Japan's strongest earthquake before this was in 1923, measuring magnitude 8.3. The Kobe earthquake of 1996 measured 7.2.

    Scary comparisons :(

    And another aftershock today was measured at 7.9


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    #867
    Killer Pigeon
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    deise go deo wrote: »
    Can people please stop trying to point score agains religion, it is quite distastful.:(
    Pompey Magnus wrote: »
    Its almost as distasteful as people trying to score points for God any time of massive death and destruction from a natural disaster and one child is pulled from the rubble, all of a sudden its a "Miracle" and "Praise be to God", ignoring all the hundred of dead who weren't saved.

    It works both ways you know.
    deise go deo wrote: »
    It dosent work at all, it is simply disrespectful to those who have died.

    How does any of the above matter anyway in Japan. Aren't 85% of Japanese Atheist/Agnostic?

    And besides, the 15% of Japanese who are religion are mostly Shinto or Buddhist so it would probably be best to sent some sort blessing that adheres to one of those denomination, not Christianity.

    Either way condolences of some form, be it religious or secular, would be called for.


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    #868
    Turtwig
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    Konata wrote: »
    What really puts this quake into perspective is the fact that Japan's strongest earthquake before this was in 1923, measuring magnitude 8.3. The Kobe earthquake of 1996 measured 7.2.

    Scary comparisons :(

    What makes it all the more terrifying is the fact that this one was accompanied by a sudden abrupt tsunami at its peak with little warning time and most of the coasts affected were low lying areas. Earthquakes are one thing, earthquakes coupled with a tsunami are different beats altogether.:(


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    #869
    Konata
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    According to rte, US geologists have estimated that the earthquake was actually a magnitude of 9.0.


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    #870
    smokingman
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    Thrill wrote: »
    Coast Guard searches for man swept out to sea in Northern Calif. while taking pics of tsunami - AP

    The Darwin awards never had an easier winner than this guy....
    "There's a sunami coming you say, must get a pic for my facebook page..."


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    #871
    Turtwig
    Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    smokingman wrote: »
    The Darwin awards never had an easier winner than this guy....
    "There's a sunami coming you say, must get a pic for my facebook page..."

    How someone could be that stupid is beyond me???:confused:


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