Japanese earthquake / tsunami discussion

gbee

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

What will happen the nuclear power plant?
Will it explode or what?

Not expected to do that. I think it has gone china syndrome, the story changes from having no problem to having a problem again.

A fire and containment with some radiation leaks.

Pompey Magnus

Dotsie~tmp wrote: »

The control rods are inserted. I cant see how a meltdow would occur.

Isn't the problem that there isn't enough coolant in the reactors, thus leaving the control rods exposed?

amacachi

Malty_T wrote: »

?

No-one died, I think everyone would take that result.

amacachi

star gazer wrote: »

Some major fires have also been a feature of the earthquake with the oil refinery and several factories as well as the damage to the two nuclear reactors.
Kesennuma - youtube (population about 75,000)

Big explosions of oil aren't as "good" for the news channels as the possibility of nukular things.

Hank Scorpio

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

:rolleyes: Move to Dublin.

To achieve what exactly?

Horrible news, hope events dont get worse.

old hippy

dilbert2 wrote: »

I am assuming here (and I may be wrong) that you are making reference to the atomic bombs dropped on Japan during the Second World War? If so, what a disgusting post - otherwise could you clarify as to what you mean by the above statement?

I was kinda wondering that myself. Hope not

gbee

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

Isn't the problem that there isn't enough coolant in the reactors, thus leaving the control rods exposed?

They have not said exposed. But it's boiling off making radioactive stream.

If the coolant has exposed the rods we have a fire too, they have not said it's on fire. But having listened to many experts today, a fire would have been the next stage.

dilbert2

old hippy wrote: »

I was kinda wondering that myself. Hope not

Sorry, I deleted that post because I thought it might drag the thread off topic. Sorry about that.

Sardonicat

http://edition.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream3&hpt=T1

Been watching live japanese telly at the link above (with english translation).

Devastation beyond comprehension in many places.

One town is completely destroyed, nothing left bar a few structures. The reporter in the helicopter was asked if they could see any people and he answered "no".

dilbert2

Yurt wrote: »

Thats terrible news I just heard about the Tsunami on my longwave radio

Imagine for two seconds that your mother, father, partner or somebody close to your heart was taking a holiday in a coastal region of Japan and then this morning you switch on RTE or BBC news and see the unfolding events for the first time.

SeaFields

Just home from work. My jaw dropped when I read the updates after being away for a few hours. The news on the radio didnt do justice to what was happening over there. Fcuking hell. Devastation.

Killer Pigeon

nuxxx wrote: »

To achieve what exactly?

He said his internet was slow ...

dilbert2

Has anybody come across figures relating to the potential cost of the destruction on the Japanese people and their economy? I’m sorry, human lives is the primary issue here I realise – which is why I am watching the situation surrounding the nuclear station – but I am curious about this no less. This will hit Japan very badly and I sincerely would wish that the international community is going to lend a hand in rebuilding a devastated Japan.

Brenireland

dilbert2 wrote: »

Has anybody come across figures relating to the potential cost of the destruction on the Japanese people and their economy? I’m sorry, human lives is the primary issue here I realise – which is why I am watching the situation surrounding the nuclear station – but I am curious about this no less. This will hit Japan very badly and I sincerely would wish that the international community is going to lend a hand in rebuilding a devastated Japan.

9Billion heard earlier.

old hippy

dilbert2 wrote: »

Imagine for two seconds that your mother, father, partner or somebody close to your heart was taking a holiday in a coastal region of Japan and then this morning you switch on RTE or BBC news and see the unfolding events for the first time.

He doesn't give a toss. That was his second lame attempt at humour today.

Thrill

Now being reported that a second nuclear plant is losing its cooling function.

Brenireland

dilbert2 on RTE news @ 9 they were saying that the damage caused in Japan today will cause huge disruptions to any growth in the global economy and may in fact cause a big set back!

Japanese companies such as their car companies/Medical companies in Ireland and many other countries in Europe & the U.S will also be hit,so it the damage will be huge!

gbee

Thrill wrote: »

Now being reported that a second nuclear plant is losing its cooling function.

Three of the four reactors are reported to have cooling problems.

I hope this is a bad translation, but it's just on Japan News.

Center of one 1000 over normal, gates outside 8 times over normal for radiation levels

macroboy

Thrill wrote: »

Now being reported that a second nuclear plant is losing its cooling function.

theyve lost cooling at 3 reactors ..ffs...get the hell out of there.

Raskolnikov

This feels like 9/11 just before the towers collapsed

Killer Pigeon

Nuclear expert on skynews says that there is "no way" that radiation level could be as high as 1,000 outside the nuclear power station, rather inside the power station and possibly 8 times outside in the immediate area.

macroboy

macroboy wrote: »

theyve lost cooling at 3 reactors ..ffs...get the hell out of there.

no ,its all real the guardian site has minute by minute updates

MiNdGaM3

Both reactors at the plant have been damaged, and officials say they have "lost control" of the pressure, according to Reuters.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/fukushima-nuclear-plant-2011-3#ixzz1GKoPRBO0

Ghost Train

Dman001 wrote: »

Pictures here of Japan after the disaster. So surreal!

http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/03/earthquake-in-japan/100022/

some more here, good few the same
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/03/massive_earthquake_hits_japan.html

macroboy

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Nuclear expert on skynews says that there is "no way" that radiation level could be as high as 1,000 outside the nuclear power station, rather inside the power station and possibly 8 times outside in the immediate area.

the plnat has been leaking since earlier than they admitted,the workers have siad its completely fecked.

my girfriend is in kanagawa..she expects the worst as the govt are trying to play things down as usual.

Brenireland

Things don't seem to be improving for the people of Japan,and as believer I will pray hard for them & the non-believers to will also be wishing the best for those poor people,we are all human and as Obama said today regardless of who we are,what race we belong to,what skin colour we are,or what religion if any we are,We are all humans who have feelings and are hurt when we see the pain these people are going through.

Turtwig

This whole nuclear stuff has definitely gone China syndrome it's impossible to tell what is actually happening at the moment and needless to say some media outlets are blown this thing up to epic proportions. Sky News Presenter :
What could happened if they don't get this under control? Love the way the expert didn't even bother giving him the answer he was looking. Honestly, this whole meltdown a possibility headline is taking the piss at this stage anything could happe and the information most people have on what it is actually going on there is piss poor. The public BADLY needs more better education on nuclear power generation and their plants and the media need a slap on the wrists. Seriously they are not helping one bit here.

macroboy

Brenireland wrote: »

Things don't seem to be improving for the people of Japan,and as believer I will pray hard for them & the non-believers to will also be wishing the best for those poor people,we are all human and as Obama said today regardless of who we are,what race we belong to,what skin colour we are,or what religion if any we are,We are all humans who have feelings and are hurt when we see the pain these people are going through.

mmmm...if that power plant goes down,,it wont matter whos a believer sonny jim

Killer Pigeon

macroboy wrote: »

the plnat has been leaking since earlier than they admitted,the workers have siad its completely fecked.

my girfriend is in kanagawa..she expects the worst as the govt are trying to play things down as usual.

But 1,000 time the normal radiation is a little bit exaggerated. That's what a nuclear expert said - not me.

Brenireland

macroboy wrote: »

mmmm...if that power plant goes down,,it wont matter whos a believer sonny jim

lets hope they can regain control and cool them.