Japanese earthquake / tsunami discussion

Pompey Magnus

The Japanese military is sending troops trained for chemical disasters to Fukushima along with four vehicles designed for use in atomic, biological and chemical warfare.

JONJO THE MISER

Live link to nhk english news in Japan http://www.foxnews.com/

bleg

Not good.

Killer Pigeon

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

http://www.foxnews.com/

Are you trying to be funny ...

Aidric

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Fecking hell some expert said to forbes that this could be worse than Chernobyl.

Can you at least spare one thread from your sensationalist nonsense.

dreamer_ire

BreakingNews Breaking News



Correction: U.S. officials now say they offered to provide coolant to Japan for its nuclear plant, but nation declined

Killer Pigeon

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

http://www.foxnews.com/

Aidric wrote: »

Can you at least spare one thread from your sensationalist nonsense.

I see what you mean ...

JONJO THE MISER

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Are you trying to be funny ...

No there is a live link to nhk news in Japan on fox news, just because you dont like fox news dont take it out on me.

Thrill

Correction: U.S. officials now say they offered to provide coolant to Japan for its nuclear plant, but nation declined

Ficheall

Does anyone know of a website that shows the wind-direction around Japan?


edit: http://www.windfinder.com/windstats/windstatistic_map_japan.htm
this is the best one I've found so far..

Turtwig

SeaFields wrote: »

Suicide mission if the reports about radiation levels in the plant are true I imagine.

Em, well nobody knows the actual situation but unless it's REALLY REALLY REALLY bad this is stuff they have drilled for and it shouldn't be remotely close to a suicide mission. It's still far from a pleasant experience tho.

SeaFields

Malty_T wrote: »

Em, well nobody knows the actual situation but unless it's REALLY REALLY REALLY bad this is stuff they have drilled for and it shouldn't be remotely close to a suicide mission. It's still far from a pleasant experience tho.

I hope you're right. How much radiation does it take to kill you? And how much can those suits they wear withstand? Anyone know?

digme

there's a lot of nuclear engineers in bed on laptops throughout Ireland tonight..........

digme

SeaFields wrote: »

I hope you're right. How much radiation does it take to kill you? And how much can those suits they wear withstand? Anyone know?

wait till he googles it for you

digme

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previous user

I feel bad for the Japanese in this situation, I'd rather they'd be the world economic power.

T0mmyM

Another update from the Guardian

This is more chilling news from Kyodo:

The cooling system failed at three reactors of the quake-hit Fukushima No 2 [Daini] nuclear power plant Saturday, the operator Tokyo Electric Power Co said.
The company, which has already scrambled to deal with radiation leaks at its Fukushima [Daiichi] No 1 plant, notified the industry ministry that the failsafe system at the No 2 plant stopped functioning as the temperature of coolant water has topped 100C.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/11/japan-tsunami-earthquake-live-coverage#block-1#block-46

Killer Pigeon

Love the guys on skynews:

"Japan is very well prepared..."

"... Not many people take out insurance."

:rolleyes:

Turtwig

SeaFields wrote: »

I hope you're right. How much radiation does it take to kill you? And how much can those suits they wear withstand? Anyone know?

The average person is exposed to 2.7 mSv of radiation per year. (Three mile island was only .8 mSv). A dosage of 1 Sv (a thousand times larger) gives a 5% risk of dying by cancer. Anything over 2 Sv is getting into the more dangerous territory. 6 Sv is consider a lethal dose. Unless we know exact the level of radiation leakage a 1000 times more radiation could mean just about anything (especially given that some units scale differently).

amacachi

SeaFields wrote: »

Suicide mission if the reports about radiation levels in the plant are true I imagine.

It's 8 times higher than normal, nowhere near suicide levels yet.

Please people, if you don't know what's going on don't go mental.

JazzyJ

Article on shutting down similar type reactors:

http://theenergycollective.com/nathantemple/53384/how-shutdown-and-core-cooling-japanese-reactors-likely-functions

Killer Pigeon

Malty_T wrote: »

The average person is exposed to 2.7 mSv of radiation per year. (Three mile island was only .8 mSv). A dosage of 1 Sv (a thousand times larger) gives a 5% risk of dying by cancer. Anything over 2 Sv is getting into the more dangerous territory. 6 Sv is consider a lethal dose. Unless we know a the level of radiation leakage a 1000 times more radiation could mean just about anything.

Your units are a little off:

• 1 Sv = 100 rem
• 1 mSv = 100 mrem = 0.1 rem
• 1 μSv = 0.1 mrem
• 1 rem = 0.01 Sv = 10 mSv
• 1 mrem = 0.00001 Sv = 0.01 mSv = 10 μSv

1 mSv = mega sievert = 1 x 10^3 Sv (1000 Sv)

So the average human gets a massively lethal dose each year?

gbee

amacachi wrote: »

It's 8 times higher than normal, nowhere near suicide levels yet.

Please people, if you don't know what's going on don't go mental.

It's 1000 times over normal.

Going on reports: as already posted a few times already too BTW. 1000 times inside the control room area. Measured at the gate outside the plant it is 8 times over normal.

Pompey Magnus

State of Emergency declared at a second nuclear plant.

SeaFields

amacachi wrote: »

It's 8 times higher than normal, nowhere near suicide levels yet.

My comment was in reference to the reports of it being 1000 times higher than normal inside the plants control room where the workers are which cant be good but yes I see your point.

JazzyJ

amacachi wrote: »

It's 8 times higher than normal, nowhere near suicide levels yet.

Please people, if you don't know what's going on don't go mental.

Or 1000 times higher depending on where you read.

gbee

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

State of Emergency declared at a second nuclear plant.

I'm not clear on this myself, it sounds like another plant, but I suspect it's another reactor in the same plant.

3 of the 4 reactors at Fukushima have problems, I think each reactor has a name too, but I'm not sure.

amacachi

gbee wrote: »

It's 1000 times over normal.

Going on reports: as already posted a few times already too BTW. 1000 times inside the control room area. Measured at the gate outside the plant it is 8 times over normal.

A thousand times fcuk all is often still fcuk all.

Pompey Magnus

gbee wrote: »

I'm not clear on this myself, it sounds like another plant, but I suspect it's another reactor in the same plant.

3 of the 4 reactors at Fukushima have problems, I think each reactor has a name too, but I'm not sure.

No I think it is a seperate plant, they have similar names though. Fukushima Daiichi and Fukushima Daini.

Ficheall

You might view it as slightly more than **** all if you weren't quite so far away from danger...