Japanese earthquake / tsunami discussion

maquiladora

No Tsunami detected yet sirens sounding and soldiers ordering people to high ground.

daelight

amacachi wrote: »

Tsunamis are hard to detect, they can travel through water as barely a ripple before they get to land and get big.

BS

Earthquake or landslide = possible tsunami. Media utterly stupid here. JMA agency detect earthquakes instantly and are only ones who will alert media and population.

Thrill

1. 0234: Some 2,000 bodies were found today on two shores in Miyagi Prefecture, 1,000 on the Ojika Peninsula and 1,000 at Minamisanriku - Japanese news agency Kyodo.
   
   

Helix

amacachi wrote: »

Tsunamis are hard to detect, they can travel through water as barely a ripple before they get to land and get big.

Yeh but initial reports claimed visual confirmation where there clearly was none

Turtwig

Helix wrote: »

how can there be such contrary reports about something visible like a tsunami wave approaching shore and quickly receding sea levels? Ridiculously bad journalism

100% Agree but this has been the standard of most journalism for the entire weekend any rumour or titbit of information has been parroted without any analysis of sources, plausibility or reliability it's quite sickening really. This "latest tsunami" could have been a sick joke.

Thrill

1. 0242: Reactor 3 withstood the explosion(s), its operator says - Japanese news agency Jiji.
   
   

maquiladora

People within 20 kilometers of Fukushima plant ordered to go inside buildings - Kyodo News

Hasnt that zone been evacuated already?

Turtwig

Thrill wrote: »

1. 0242: Reactor 3 withstood the explosion(s), its operator says - Japanese news agency Jiji.
   
   

Thank ****.

Standard Toaster

Yukio Edano - "We believe there's a low possibility a massive amount of radiation has been released.....container vessel still safe"


Just moments ago on NHK

maquiladora

Kyodo: Gov. Ishihara issues order to measure radioactivity levels in Tokyo

Degag

Standard Toaster wrote: »

Yukio Edano - "We believe there's a low possibility a massive amount of radiation has been released.....container vessel still safe"


Just moments ago on NHK

That doesn't sound good.

jd007

maquiladora wrote: »

People within 20 kilometers of Fukushima plant ordered to go inside buildings - Kyodo News

Hasnt that zone been evacuated already?

600 people still there afaik

andrew

I presume they'd know immediately whether the reactor pressure vessel had been breached as the pressure inside would begin to drop rapidly. So if they're saying the reactor is fine now, then definitely is fine.

JONJO THE MISER

Breaking:Just in from Fox: the inner contaiment container is intact,

Einhard

Standard Toaster wrote: »

Yukio Edano - "We believe there's a low possibility a massive amount of radiation has been released.....container vessel still safe"


Just moments ago on NHK

Would that it was vice versa and the "massive" and "low" adjectives were swapped around!

That cabinet secretary guy must be wrecked.

Thrill

That explosion looks bigger than the first one.

maquiladora

Good news on the reactor. That explosion looked much larger than the previous one.

andrew

maquiladora wrote: »

Good news on the reactor. That explosion looked much larger than the previous one.

Video link?

Einhard

Seriously, that was a pretty big explosion! How much damage can one reactor take?!

Rob A. Bank

Thrill wrote: »

1. 0242: Reactor 3 withstood the explosion(s), its operator says - Japanese news agency Jiji.
   
   

I wonder if that is true... I certainly hope so because that reactor has plutonium in the fuel rods.

If it leaks a lot of radiation it will be equivalent to a 'dirty bomb'

Jesus a HUGE second blast going hundreds of feet into the air !

Einhard

Feck. Nikkei is down 4.53%. That's not good.

amacachi

daelight wrote: »

BS

Earthquake or landslide = possible tsunami. Media utterly stupid here. JMA agency detect earthquakes instantly and are only ones who will alert media and population.

So they're easy to detect? If they were to evacuate every time there was a quake they may as well leave the islands altogether, takes a large earthquake for a tsunami.

Helix wrote: »

Yeh but initial reports claimed visual confirmation where there clearly was none

Ah, didn't hear that, just that the alarms were sounding etc.

amacachi

Einhard wrote: »

Feck. Nikkei is down 4.53%. That's not good.

Well that's my evening ruined.

Standard Toaster

Einhard wrote: »

Would that it was vice versa and the "massive" and "low" adjectives were swapped around!

That cabinet secretary guy must be wrecked.

I think your right. News girl just quoted him there saying "There is little possibility that radiation has leaked into the air"

Even she seems bollixed!


Before/after pics of reactor on NHK now

http://i53.tinypic.com/10ron6t.png

andrew

White smoke coming from the exploded building. Looks more like steam; if so, I wonder if that's significant.

Turtwig

Einhard wrote: »

Seriously, that was a pretty big explosion! How much damage can one reactor take?!

A pretty big beating, and it's worth keeping in mind this reactor containment isn't even as strong as that as Three Mile Island it's comparably smaller and the more modern reactors are way way stronger. Obviously they have to be.

Thrill

andrew wrote: »

Video link?

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv

andrew

Thrill wrote: »

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv

Thanks. Are there any Of the explosion itself?

edit:
Found one

Definitely looks more energetic than the last one.

maquiladora

Xinhua cites Nippon TV as saying the new blast at Fukushima caused several injuries

Duiske

andrew wrote: »

Video link?

Being shown repeatedly on Sky News Live.