Japanese earthquake / tsunami discussion

The Sparrow

angerfist2009 wrote: »

Getting hard to get decent coverage of this from the big news stations sky and cnn are both going on about libya and ****ing royal wedding.

Have to listen to HNK just dunno whats live and whats recorded on there at times cause its all translated.

Al Jazeera on Sky channel 514 seems to be much better than Sky or CNN or even BBC.

maquiladora

Kyodo: Higher radiation levels measured in Ibaraki -- south of Fukushima

WallyGUFC

Very strange conference. Apart from the fact that the translator is worse than Trapatoni trying to translate English, the management are just apologetic? Definately something there not saying, and they probably don't know the full picture themselves. Very weird.

gbee

TEPCO does not seem to be grasping the situation. Fukushima No1 and No3 reactor staff ordered to evacuate. Reading 965.9mSv outside plant. About half of fuel rods exposed.

hmmm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

The reason we cant see the explosion is because the news stations cant get access to them according to Fox who have Shepard smith reporting live from Tokyo.

CNN are showing something that could be an explosion, or could be steam venting.

It's weird, the government scientist said that the containment had been broken, the TEPCO people are saying they don't know if the containment has been breached. In fairness, they all look shattered.

JONJO THE MISER

Reports of higher radiation outside plant and also there is a crack in the outer containment vessel.

maquiladora

Steam-like substance seen coming from No. 3 reactor building, did I hear that right?

hmmm

"The news conference has just concluded. An expert in NHK's studio explains that a decrease in the pressure inside the container vessel could mean that there is now a hole in it, making it harder to keep radioactive material from escaping."

Turtwig

Zayden Hallowed Bayonet wrote: »

Sorry if this is a silly question why can they use liquid nitrogen or something, although I am guessing the reality is things are gone way too far.

The only silly question for these kinds of things is the one not asked. The thermal shock would likely cause more damage than anything.

Mac daddy wrote: »

They are not being honest something is up at the moment and they won't admit it yet.

It's probably because they don't know enough yet. Evacuations occurred after the Unit III explosion too.

JONJO THE MISER

Only 50 employees left at the plant.
To anyone who knows anyone living in Tokyo i would advise them to get the hell out.

WIZE

skynews reporting that one of the chambers are damaged

Thrill

Water levels are reportedly being restored at the No2 reactor at the Fukushima No1 nuclear plant. Rods now 2.8m exposed.


Radiation levels outside the main gate of the Fukushima No1 nuclear plant were reported as 16 times normal levels.

hmmm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Only 50 employees left at the plant.
To anyone who knows anyone living in Tokyo i would advise them to get the hell out.

Arrah stop it will you.

kona

How do they know the pressure has dropped if the readings they are getting are false ( earlier they said their guages were misreading?

Theres **** all facts, but plenty of people just dying for this **** to kick off.

gbee

8:30am 8,217mSv at gate of plant 3 times the level of natural exposure for one year.

Biggins

WIZE wrote: »

skynews reporting that one of the chambers are damaged

Reporting now of a third explosion in the last hour at reactor 2.
Also that high levels of radiation have now been detected outside the area.

The Sparrow

CNN weather forecast reported that the winds are in a mostly westerly direction which is in contradiction to NHK which said they were northerly.

maquiladora

3 x annual radiation exposure in 1 hour at the plant gate now.

Turtwig

kona wrote: »

How do they know the pressure has dropped if the readings they are getting are false ( earlier they said their guages were misreading?

The gauges refer to water levels, not pressure levels.

Thrill

Tokyo electric: "We know this is worse than just another explosion. Atmospheric pressure w/in suppression pools are decreasing..."

opinion guy

Thrill wrote: »

Tokyo electric: "We know this is worse than just another explosion. Atmospheric pressure w/in suppression pools are decreasing..."

What does that mean ?

geetar

opinion guy wrote: »

What does that mean ?

might mean a reactor has been breached?

oppenheimer1

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Only 50 employees left at the plant.
To anyone who knows anyone living in Tokyo i would advise them to get the hell out.

A mass evacuation of a metropolis the size of Tokyo would lead to thousands more being killed...

The situation is grave over there but you shouldn't stoke panic.

OPENROAD

Just watching Sky News, that poor woman searching for her mother,

Thrill

TEPCO found a crack on the roof of No4 plant building, it said.


Blast damages roof of Japan nuclear reactor, steam rising - Jiji

JONJO THE MISER

Link to radiation counter for Tokyo
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/geiger-counter-tokyo

WallyGUFC

OPENROAD wrote: »

Just watching Sky News, that poor woman searching for her mother,

And so many more too. All we see is the wave and the rubble, so many individual tragedies, it's hard to understand how we'd cope with that level of heartbreak.

x in the city

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

A mass evacuation of a metropolis the size of Tokyo would lead to thousands more being killed...

The situation is grave over there but you shouldn't stoke panic.

knowing Japanese they would form ordely Q's and slowly die while been trodded on..:mad:


This is quite unreal, I am going to bed.

The Sparrow

opinion guy wrote: »

What does that mean ?

Basically that the pressure could be reducing because there is a breach in the reactor core allowing radiation material to escape and therefore reducing the pressure within the reactor.

OPENROAD

WallyGUFC wrote: »

And so many more too. All we see is the wave and the rubble, so many individual tragedies, it's hard to understand how we'd cope with that level of heartbreak.

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