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my PC build XPS 9100- Any recommendations?

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  • 15-03-2011 2:23am
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    Registered Users Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭


    If I can order this from Dell in the States (not on Irish site yet) or somewhere where I can get the system built I would like to go along these lines. I will need this PC for Gaming in my free time, GIS, Autocad, photo editing etc.

    Feel free to comment.


    Processor: Intel Core i7-990X processor(3.46GHz, 12MB L2 Cache)

    Operating System: Windows 7 Professional,64bit.

    Monitor: None, Will connect up pc to my Samsung 32"full HDTV.

    Memory: 24GB Tri channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333Mhz-6DIMMS - might be too much altogether but I wont say no if I can get it with it.

    Hard Drive: 500GB or 1TB undecided at the moment - Have two 2 TB externals already so dont feel I need a big Hard-drive.

    Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5

    Sound Card: Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium

    Wireless: Dell 1525 Wireless-NPCIe Card

    Bluetooth Dell Wireless 365 Bluetooth Module-European

    Speakers: none I have logitech ones already that are brillant.

    Keyboard and mouse -wireless.



    Is it ok for my needs?
    Might have to make a few changes but Il go with that for now.

    Cheers


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭IrishMetalhead


    well first off never buy your comp from dell unless you like wasting your money because they are a complete rip off even for an oem, i made a pic earliar today showing how:

    2ischvk.png

    Was going to post a thread earlier explaining why Dell is a must avoid.

    secondly check out hardwareversand.de for €20 they'll assemble your comp aswell plus another €35 they'll install your os or best option check the "we'll build your pc for you" thread to see anyone in your location who'd put it together for you for free:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056197599

    I will aslo spec you out a comp on hardwareversand for you ;)
    BTW 24gb of ram is too much overkill beings that no one would ever use that much cause believe it or not 6GB is well more than enough

    Edit: also how much is your budget for this computer?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭massy086


    well first off never buy your comp from dell unless you like wasting your money because they are a complete rip off even for an oem, i made a pic earliar today showing how:

    2ischvk.png

    Was going to post a thread earlier explaining why Dell is a must avoid.

    secondly check out hardwareversand.de for €20 they'll assemble your comp aswell plus another €35 they'll install your os or best option check the "we'll build your pc for you" thread to see anyone in your location who'd put it together for you for free:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056197599

    I will aslo spec you out a comp on hardwareversand for you ;)
    BTW 24gb of ram is too much overkill beings that no one would ever use that much cause believe it or not 6GB is well more than enough

    Edit: also how much is your budget for this computer?

    FULLY AGREE AND THERE MOBO,S ARE JUNK


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    24GB is a ridiculous amount of memory!
    I'd agree with the poster above and say go with 6, or 12 if you want to meet in the middle.

    Post the price of the dell PC you've been looking at and these guys will build a rig that will absolutely wipe the floor with it for the same money, or one with the same spec for a lot less!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Hahaha 24GB.

    How much money have you actually got?
    I think that a P67 board and 2600K would be enough in most circumstances unless you really need the 990X. Might be best off for your wallet buying the 2600 now and getting a hexacore at the end of the year anyway.
    RAM - for gaming and a lot of heavy work, 8GB RAM is more than enough. You mention "GIS, Autocad, photo editing". What levels of complexity are we talking about? The autocad site recommends 2GB for the 64-bit version.
    IMO, get 2x4GB and go for two more (16GB) if you find yourself running short.

    Space is pretty cheap for normal hard drives. For a build like that, I'd want an SSD for the OS. Consider something like the C300 128GB.


    Edit: 980X vs 2600K (990X unavailable but should be close enough)
    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/142?vs=287
    The 2600K wins in quite a few cases but loses out where the extra cores of the 980X can be used.

    Edit2:
    http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43984
    C400 should be out soon too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    tman wrote: »
    24GB is a ridiculous amount of memory!

    True...I was just trying to make it futureproof as im sure it will be there in PCs in years to come. Agreed I dont really need it now though. Might stick with 12-16GBs.

    I have a question though hopefully not a stupid one, if I quote my PC specs to this hardwareversand.de website, will they be able to assemble the computer for me or will I have to buy the parts and assemble the computer myself?

    Cheers for all the advice by the way.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    tman wrote: »
    24GB is a ridiculous amount of memory!
    I'd agree with the poster above and say go with 6, or 12 if you want to meet in the middle.

    Post the price of the dell PC you've been looking at and these guys will build a rig that will absolutely wipe the floor with it for the same money, or one with the same spec for a lot less!

    The Dell one I built on the US site was $3,679.99. But that was with 24GB of RAM and a 4TB hardrive. Take them out and the price would drop but this doesnt include shipping and VAT.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Are you based in the US?
    If you're ordering from there but live in Ireland (if you can even do that...), then the risk of customs seizing it and charging you an extortionate amount would make the Dell an even worse deal than it already is...

    I think HWVS build your PC for you for an extra €30 or so


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭IrishMetalhead


    hum so would you like me to desgin one with a budget of lets say €3000?
    you can get an amazing comp at that price or do you want me to spec out a pc at the same price as the xps?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭IrishMetalhead


    tman wrote: »
    I think HWVS build your PC for you for an extra €30 or so

    €20 for assembly and €35 for OS and driver installation


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Future proofing a PC doesn't really work as new tech comes along or is developed, but you can definitely build a very optimal system

    A system for 3000 euros will usually only be about 10% to 15% faster than a system for 1500 euros

    We have been recommending 4 gigs of ram for the last 5 years +ram is dirt cheap at the moment.

    The 'optimal' processor you would need right now would be the 2600K, brand new in January from intel - about 300 dollars
    A super duper motherboard for that - 200 dollars
    An optimal graphics card without sounding like a wind tunnel - 300 dollars
    A lightning fast SSD (solid state harddrive) - 200+ dollars
    Case, power supply, normal storage drive, peripherals - few hundred dollars max

    You can see we aren't going anywhere near the absolutely ridiculous price of the Dell.. which is a total ripoff.. this is a computer with a measured performance, not a classic supercar ;)

    If you are based in the US, buy from the US. If you are based in Europe - buy in Europe. I feel like I am from the sensible computer advice bureau or something :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭IrishMetalhead


    Heres a completely bananas computer that would easily smoke that XPS's ass (pardon my french) and it only costs €300. It has the same CPU but it has an SSD which is faster than any HDD out not to mention I picked the fastest sata SSD out, plus I picked the fastest graphics card aswell a radeon HD6990.
    It does have 12GB less RAM and it's using onboard 7.1 audio but it will not effect the performance what so ever and as for the sound onboard is good enough for most people out there:

    CPU: Intel Core i7 990X - €873.44
    http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43710&agid=1189

    CPU Cooler: Corsair H70 - €83.64
    http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=38537&agid=669

    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7 - €288.45
    http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30431&agid=1191

    RAM: 12GB Corsair Dominator 1600MHz - €183.59
    http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=38037&agid=1193

    Graphics Card: 4GB Club 3D Radeon HD6990 - €561.70
    http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44157&agid=1663

    SSD: 256GB Crucial C300 - €451.49
    http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=31476&agid=1145

    HDD: 1TB Wester Digital Caviar Blue Sata 3 6Gb/s - €51.22
    http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=39658&agid=1342

    Disc Drive: Sony NEC Optiarc AD-7260S DVD+RW - €15.79
    http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=36860&agid=699

    Case: Have about €175 to look for one
    http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articlesearch.jsp?agid=375&search.reset=1&search.sKey=
    (make sure you ask us about the case first when you find one you like and we can tell you if the cooling and airflow is ok)

    PSU: Corsair AX850 - €157.32
    http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=38998&agid=1631

    OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit - €84.20
    http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=29181&agid=185

    Assembly Serive - €20
    http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=746&agid=829

    OS & Drvier Installation - €34.99
    http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=857&agid=829

    Shipping - €30

    Total - Anywhere between €2900 to €3000 depdning on what case yu have chosen


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Lu Tze


    teednab-el wrote: »
    True...I was just trying to make it futureproof as im sure it will be there in PCs in years to come. Agreed I dont really need it now though. Might stick with 12-16GBs.

    I have a question though hopefully not a stupid one, if I quote my PC specs to this hardwareversand.de website, will they be able to assemble the computer for me or will I have to buy the parts and assemble the computer myself?

    Cheers for all the advice by the way.

    What CAD/GIS programs do you use? If the CAD is 3d or if you are messing about with SRTM data then you are probably better off with the 8 GB RAM minimum.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭IrishMetalhead


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    Future proofing a PC doesn't really work as new tech comes along or is developed, but you can definitely build a very optimal system

    A system for 3000 euros will usually only be about 10% to 15% faster than a system for 1500 euros

    We have been recommending 4 gigs of ram for the last 5 years +ram is dirt cheap at the moment.

    The 'optimal' processor you would need right now would be the 2600K, brand new in January from intel - about 300 dollars
    A super duper motherboard for that - 200 dollars
    An optimal graphics card without sounding like a wind tunnel - 300 dollars
    A lightning fast SSD (solid state harddrive) - 200+ dollars
    Case, power supply, normal storage drive, peripherals - few hundred dollars max

    You can see we aren't going anywhere near the absolutely ridiculous price of the Dell.. which is a total ripoff.. this is a computer with a measured performance, not a classic supercar ;)

    If you are based in the US, buy from the US. If you are based in Europe - buy in Europe. I feel like I am from the sensible computer advice bureau or something :)

    This is very true but I couldn't help myself and design a computer with a budget of €3000 :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    I think you'd be a lot better off with 1.5K now and 1.5K in a year or two, if the budget is 3K.
    Or maybe a 1.5K sytem + 500 in watercooling etc, and the 1K for CPU and GPU upgrade next year.


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