Irish surname please!

LordSutch

who the fug wrote: »

What like Pearse

You mean Pádraig Anraí Mac Piarais

deise go deo

LordSutch wrote: »

Question for those of you who wish to change you surnames to Irish ones;

How do you know that your surname was a Gaelic/Irish surname in the 1st place? might it not be the case that your ancestors came acrooss the water from Britain just like mine did !!!

My surname is not Irish, but there is an Irish translation for it just the same :cool:

I hardly see why it matters, I am Irish, Even if my ancestors were not;)

LordSutch

deise go deo wrote: »

I hardly see why it matters, I am Irish, Even if my ancestors were not;)

I am refering to the automatic presumption that we should change our surnames back to the "Original Irish" version, this, in spite of the fact that we may or may not (as in my case) have had an Irish surname in the first place!

HoneyRyder

LordSutch wrote: »

I am refering to the automatic presumption that we should change our surnames back to the "Original Irish" version, in spite of the fact that we may or may not (as in my case) have had an Irish surname in the first place!

No you're not, you asked this:

LordSutch wrote: »

Question for those of you who wish to change you surnames to Irish ones; How do you know that your surname was a Gaelic/Irish surname in the 1st place?

And you were provided answers along with reasons. Where's the problem?

sensibleken

LordSutch wrote: »

Question for those of you who wish to change you surnames to Irish ones;

How do you know that your surname was a Gaelic/Irish surname in the 1st place? might it not be the case that your ancestors came acrooss the water from Britain just like mine did !!!

My surname is not Irish, but there is an Irish translation for it just the same :cool:

some most likely did. My great great grandmother was an american, im still irish though, but american Irish:D

LordSutch

Rhamiel wrote: »

Do you think Irish citizens with anglicised surnames should be encouraged to change their names back to their original Gaelic form? By deed poll... forever!

There's the problem^ but how do you know that your surname was Irish in the 1st place? And I'm not questioning peoples Irishness, I'm just pointing out that just because your surname translates into Irish doesnt mean that it was originally Irish.

My surname translates into irish perfectly, but its originally an English surname.

sensibleken

LordSutch wrote: »

There's the problem^ but how do you know that your surname was Irish in the 1st place? .

Reading books is a great way to find stuff out

Kimono-Girl

i wouldn't mind my current surname being in Irish, i prefer it in Irish anyway, but i would Hate to have my married surname in the Irish language, i prefer the english language version of it so on this one im going to say...no!

HoneyRyder

LordSutch wrote: »

I'm just pointing out that just because your surname translates into Irish doesnt mean that it was originally Irish.

And other people have pointed out that they don't give a fig what it 'originally' was a gazillion years ago. Is that so hard for you to conceive?

smokedeels

I'm changing mine to Eddie Honda, Irish language be damned.

amacachi

There is no Irish for my name, different teachers came up with three different ways to spell it with very different pronunciations and spellings.

LordSutch

The thing is, in some cases the Irish version has just been invented so that there is an Irish version, then in other cases the surname may have genuinely been Gaelic to start with (before being anglicised), and then you have paralele surnames like mine, wherby my English surname existed in its own right in England, and at the same time an Irish version existed here. (or maybe not)? What I'm getting at here is the possability that Irish names have been adapted to suit translation, even if there is no connection (my name being an example).

sensibleken

LordSutch wrote: »

The thing is, in some cases the Irish version has just been invented so that there is an Irish version, then in other cases the surname may have genuinely been Gaelic to start with (before being anglicised), and then you have paralele surnames like mine, wherby my English surname existed in its own right in England, and at the same time an Irish version existed here. (or maybe not)? What I'm getting at here is the possability that Irish names have been adapted to suit translation, even if there is no connection (my name being an example).

yes. and you can find out which is which by researching your name. Does that answer your question?

amacachi

sensibleken wrote: »

yes. and you can find out which is which by researching your name. Does that answer your question?

For those with uncommon names it's harder to do research. From the 1911 census it seems others with my name (and one letter off) were about 1/3 Catholic and 2/3 Protestants of at least different denominations so that leaves a fairly even chance as to whether it was an Irish name to begin with since most came from NI.

KeithAFC

Rhamiel wrote: »

Do you think Irish citizens with anglicised surnames should be encouraged to change their names back to their original Gaelic form? By deed poll... forever!











p.s. then we all go invade Northern Ireland :pac:

No. Although i got a scottish surname.

deise go deo

LordSutch wrote: »

The thing is, in some cases the Irish version has just been invented so that there is an Irish version, then in other cases the surname may have genuinely been Gaelic to start with (before being anglicised), and then you have paralele surnames like mine, wherby my English surname existed in its own right in England, and at the same time an Irish version existed here. (or maybe not)? What I'm getting at here is the possability that Irish names have been adapted to suit translation, even if there is no connection (my name being an example).

I think I have the perfect solution for you. Bear with me here. Dont Use the Irish Version of your name:eek:;)

Would that work?

who the fug

If you surname is Kelly are you Irish?

Iwasfrozen

deise go deo wrote: »

I think I have the perfect solution for you. Bear with me here. Dont Use the Irish Version of your name:eek:;)

Would that work?

Not very easy. Teachers call children by their Irish names without their permisson in school. As I should know, the wicked old master used to call me Mr. Mac an tSámhaigh.

*Shudder*, Those four words still send a shiver down my spine.

Tallon

Tallon

deathrider

Rhamiel wrote: »

p.s. then we all go invade Northern Ireland :pac:

But it's miles away... Can we get the bus?

Ammsy500

My surname is actually sounds pretty nice in Irish but its a pain in the ass to spell I cant even spell it properly. Imagine ringing up somewhere and being asked your surname it would be constantly 'sorry can you spell that again...slowly'. If you want to change it than thats your choice but Im happy with the English version, it sounds really Irish anyway theres many Irish pubs named after it

Coriolanus

The Irish version of my surname sounds fúcking gay. Pretty sure they made it up in 1921 like "Sraid Uí Hárcóurtaigh" in town on the Luas.
**** you James Connolly or whichever of the bastard patriots was the one mad into Irish.