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Bodacious

just do it wrote: »

Pink wart-like growth on the eyeball. Only spotted it today.



Here's a close up

That is cancer more common in white head cattle .. I had the vet remove growth and right down into bit of eyelid behind it and culled her

vanderbadger

just do it wrote: »

Handling facilities.

I was dosing cattle today so I took a few pics while I was at it. I'll add some notes tomorrow when I'm on the pc.

nice setup

just do it

vanderbadger wrote: »

just do it wrote: »

Handling facilities.

I was dosing cattle today so I took a few pics while I was at it. I'll add some notes tomorrow when I'm on the pc.

nice setup

Hardly a candidate for the FBD tidy farm of the year award though! I'd a lad with a power washer lined up since July but the shed had has some stock in since then so did get him in :rolleyes:

With the year that's been the place is in an awful state. Anyone else find this?

mikeoh

Bodacious wrote: »

That is cancer more common in white head cattle .. I had the vet remove growth and right down into bit of eyelid behind it and culled her

I was just going to say it was a harmless skin tag and rub a"dry cow tube" on the eye to ease the irritation........ . Proving the point u shouldn't listen to me and need a vet!!!!

just do it

mikeoh wrote: »

I was just going to say it was a harmless skin tag and rub a"dry cow tube" on the eye to ease the irritation........ . Proving the point u shouldn't listen to me and need a vet!!!!

yeah that's what I thought when I saw it first but I think BOD is right. The difference is it is growing off the eyeball rather than off the eyelid.

pakalasa

just do it wrote: »

Hardly a candidate for the FBD tidy farm of the year award though! I'd a lad with a power washer lined up since July but the shed had has some stock in since then so did get him in :rolleyes:

With the year that's been the place is in an awful state. Anyone else find this?

Nice set-up there. Like you say, no beating with sticks or a Cattle Prodder required. And they won't be afraid to go back in again either.
Surprised at the butterfly backing gate. I though cattle woud be afraid to go under it.
Hand yard scraper...;)

Bean_Flicker

Lovely stock and facilities just do it :cool:

Does your contractor stack your silage bales for you or do you stack them?

As I just seen in another tread you said you had a MF 165.

mikeoh

just do it wrote: »

yeah that's what I thought when I saw it first but I think BOD is right. The difference is it is growing off the eyeball rather than off the eyelid.

Is it a cow r bullock?

just do it

pakalasa wrote: »

Hand yard scraper...;)

Ah sure I know and I have one. but to do the yard properly takes a fair effort and I'm too lazy!

just do it

Bean_Flicker wrote: »

Lovely stock and facilities just do it :cool:

Does your contractor stack your silage bales for you or do you stack them?

As I just seen in another tread you said you had a MF 165.

Thanks bean, it's improving gradually! The contractor stacks them and I keep the bare minimum of machinery.

just do it

mikeoh wrote: »

Is it a cow r bullock?

Cow 7m in calf. She's on the cull list now, but depending on how this develops I'll hopefully get a reared calf before she departs

Muckit

1chippy wrote: »

Is that annual or just the year thats in it? would the grass be seriously slow to come right after that?

Annual thing. Swallow holes. 10-15acres under water depending on the water table. A lot of lads shot ducks off it during the winter, place would be littered with empties in spring.

It works ok now that we have shed. Grass in spring would grow through the water like a green house! Plus you get leached fertiliser/slurry from nieighbours It would be April at earliest before goes back, could be May on a bad year.

mf240

Muckit wrote: »

Annual thing. Swallow holes. 10-15acres under water depending on the water table. A lot of lads shot ducks off it during the winter, place would be littered with empties in spring.

It works ok now that we have shed. Grass in spring would grow through the water like a green house! Plus you get leached fertiliser/slurry from nieighbours It would be April at earliest before goes back, could be May on a bad year.

Is that what they call a turloch in roscommon?

mikeoh

just do it wrote: »

Cow 7m in calf. She's on the cull list now, but depending on how this develops I'll hopefully get a reared calf before she departs

It wouldn't happen to a bad one,.....hope she rears a great calf for u

bob charles

just do it wrote: »

Pink wart-like growth on the eyeball. Only spotted it today.

Cancer, dont know if it can be removed our not by VET, Dont delay in culling as I have seen some seriously bad growths over the years at the meat factory. Owners of such animals should get a stern warning of the Dept of Ag on animal cruelty as if a normal Joe soap saw such an animal at an slaughterhouse they would be less than impressed with our standards

Muckit

just do it wrote: »

This is a walk through at the back of the crush. It's the same width as those at Ennis mart. The back gate swings over to block it off.

Those walk throughs are great idea. saves a lot of messing with opening gates. They were one thing I forgot to add myself when planning out penning. Would be great if you could buy them premade and just bolt them in place

just do it

bob charles wrote: »

Owners of such animals should get a stern warning of the Dept of Ag on animal cruelty as if a normal Joe soap saw such an animal at an slaughterhouse they would be less than impressed with our standards

I beg to differ with you on this one. If the animal is not suffering there isn't a welfare issue. If the Dept of Ag were to act on every "perceived" welfare issue there wouldn't be a farmer left in the country. A lot of fine looking cattle arrive in the factory that have had a frightning existence due to been indiscriminantly beaten by the farmer, as much out of ignorance than anything else (i.e. that's the only way they've seen cattle been treated). I'm probably the only farmer in my townland that doesn't carry a stick or bit of wavin piping with me each time I herd my cattle. Anyway that is enough of a rant for now. For me welfare issues are where the animal suffers in some way, not when non-farmer Joe Public thinks there is a welfare issue.

From a pragmatic perspective this cow will remain as long as she isn't in anyway suffering. Now that I'm aware of this growth it will be under daily observation. Her job is to produce a valuable calf each year and she is only 2 months away from hopefully doing this. As long as she's in no discomfort she'll be given the opportunity to do her job. As snowman707 noted a good while back, the head and legs aren't what produce the steak on the plate (there's another valued contributor that has gone to ground, I wonder was he mascarading as Blake Smoke for a while ).

bob charles

just do it wrote: »

I beg to differ with you on this one. If the animal is not suffering there isn't a welfare issue. If the Dept of Ag were to act on every "perceived" welfare issue there wouldn't be a farmer left in the country.

What I said was

bob charles wrote: »

I have seen some seriously bad growths over the years at the meat factory. Owners of such animals should get a stern warning of the Dept of Ag on animal cruelty

The above animals should have being slaughtered 6 months previously and never alloud the cancerous growth to develop to the state the animal was presented with

What I have seen on a good few occasions would be too bad to post a picture up here of. Growths the size of a small football and a stinking smell, blood bleeding out etc.

your cow is currently in perfect condition and is only the beginning of a growth hence I said it maybe even able to be removed by a vet.

blue5000

Simmentals seem to be prone to eye cancer, seen it before on a neighbour's cow. How old is she, just do it?

just do it

blue5000 wrote: »

Simmentals seem to be prone to eye cancer, seen it before on a neighbour's cow. How old is she, just do it?

She's 6yo. Just checked her dates and she's due to calf in 11 weeks to gene ireland CH bull DZP. Funny how some animals go. She was on death's door 3 years ago due to rumen fluke but lived to tell the tale. If I weren't trying to increase numbers she'd have been culled this year as she's also poor on the hindfeet.

Anyway I'll just have to watch her and if she goes like Bob is predicting she may end up on a meat hook before she gets to deliver.

bob charles

just do it wrote: »

She's 6yo. Just checked her dates and she's due to calf in 11 weeks to gene ireland CH bull DZP. Funny how some animals go. She was on death's door 3 years ago due to rumen fluke but lived to tell the tale. If I weren't trying to increase numbers she'd have been culled this year as she's also poor on the hindfeet.

Anyway I'll just have to watch her and if she goes like Bob is predicting she may end up on a meat hook before she gets to deliver.

she should be grand to get the calf, talk to your vet about it, cant remember how fast it progresses as its awhile since we had one, thankfully.

Bodacious

just do it wrote: »

She's 6yo. Just checked her dates and she's due to calf in 11 weeks to gene ireland CH bull DZP. Funny how some animals go. She was on death's door 3 years ago due to rumen fluke but lived to tell the tale. If I weren't trying to increase numbers she'd have been culled this year as she's also poor on the hindfeet.

Anyway I'll just have to watch her and if she goes like Bob is predicting she may end up on a meat hook before she gets to deliver.

ive a book on it here from a u.s. company, its the white head that reflects sunlight back which causes more concentrated sun rays around the eye area of a whitehead animal that that of a solid coloured animal and yeah that would fit with simmental breed also

a lad i know sold one with the calf at foot after growth was removed and she done no good for the man that bought her, she had never ending scour and was starting to pine away then he sold her at a loss (i dont agree with either of these men selling the problem on by the way)

advice is to remove growth asap as first stages are not malignant and hope that it hasnt grown inwards into the eyelid and its better to be on the eyeball than on the 3rd eyelid, as eyeball tumours grow outwards whereas eyelid tumours spread inwards to lymph nodes and organs.

redzerologhlen

The last of the calves being weaned today, should have been done a few weeks ago by right because they had started to go backwards.



What happens to your cowbox when a ton of limisioun bull decides hes not going to wait for you to open the gates to let him out :mad:

Muckit

God lovely looking stock there Redzer!

vanderbadger

is that the wall you were building before to the right of those cattle?

redzerologhlen

Muckit wrote: »

God lovely looking stock there Redzer!

The picture probably flatters them a bit to be honest muckit, they have more hair than flesh on them at the moment. They should be a lot better overall. We creep fed 10 of the handier calves from the middle of august to the start of October and by the time we sold them they were streets ahead of the ones we weaned today, lesson learned I guess. A few kilos of meal makes a huge difference late in the year when they are still sucking. Will be feeding all those for the winter anyway so it doesnt make a huge difference I spose.

redzerologhlen

vanderbadger wrote: »

is that the wall you were building before to the right of those cattle?

Tis indeed vander. The auld lad is building on a calving pen at the moment aswell, getting the ****s of heading out the field with the jeep and the flash lamp looking for cows calving in the spring.

leg wax

Muckit wrote: »

God lovely looking stock there Redzer!

they sure are, and ready for the winter with the hair,fair play redzer.

vanderbadger

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Tis indeed vander. The auld lad is building on a calving pen at the moment aswell, getting the ****s of heading out the field with the jeep and the flash lamp looking for cows calving in the spring.

looks like a fine cosy shed now anyway

Muckit

How do you wean Redz? Will you leave them in that shed for a while and move the cows to winterage or what??

redzerologhlen

Muckit wrote: »

How do you wean Redz? Will you leave them in that shed for a while and move the cows to winterage or what??

Will keep them in for a week and put them to a sheltered winterage and they will get silage and about 3kg of meal a day for the winter. The cows will be going to the winterage when they stop roaring and lose interest in the calf's, the can walk up to the gate of the shed at the moment. The calves seem happy enough so far anyway, not doing too much bawling and they are picking away at the meal.

redzerologhlen

vanderbadger wrote: »

looks like a fine cosy shed now anyway

Its still a bit open from where I took the pic but that will be closed in when the calving pen is finished, time to be getting it done now with 15 heifers calving from the start of February.

Bizzum

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Will keep them in for a week and put them to a sheltered winterage and they will get silage and about 3kg of meal a day for the winter. The cows will be going to the winterage when they stop roaring and lose interest in the calf's, the can walk up to the gate of the shed at the moment. The calves seem happy enough so far anyway, not doing too much bawling and they are picking away at the meal.

A head or between them?

redzerologhlen

Bizzum wrote: »

A head or between them?

A head.

johnpawl

redzerologhlen wrote: »

A head.

Won't that be fairly expensive?

caseman

johnpawl wrote: »

Won't that be fairly expensive?

Alot cheaper than keeping them in a expensive slatted house.

johnpawl

caseman wrote: »

Alot cheaper than keeping them in a expensive slatted house.

Missed the part about out wintering:o

tismesoitis

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Will keep them in for a week and put them to a sheltered winterage and they will get silage and about 3kg of meal a day for the winter. The cows will be going to the winterage when they stop roaring and lose interest in the calf's, the can walk up to the gate of the shed at the moment. The calves seem happy enough so far anyway, not doing too much bawling and they are picking away at the meal.

any harm in askin redzer what kinda weight gain would you be expecting from these ladies on the winterage and 3kgs meal??

redzerologhlen

tismesoitis wrote: »

any harm in askin redzer what kinda weight gain would you be expecting from these ladies on the winterage and 3kgs meal??

Very little they will grow a bit of frame and a good fleece. There's no holding them back when they go to grass in the spring though, you wouldn't know them after a month of it.

Bodacious

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Very little they will grow a bit of frame and a good fleece. There's no holding them back when they go to grass in the spring though, you wouldn't know them after a month of it.

Hi red, I was waiting for you to come back with that answer as I was going to say it.

I outwintered 5 heifers last year on silage and say 2-3kg of meal and yeah survival mode only but went they went to grass on March 20th... Look out the compensatory growth kicked in...

Guy in farming info can't remember his name John Shirley maybe is always on about it "outlyers" vs "hot house flowers"

Bizzum

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Very little they will grow a bit of frame and a good fleece. There's no holding them back when they go to grass in the spring though, you wouldn't know them after a month of it.

We used to outwinter before we became "sophisticated":D and the trive on grass thereafter is something else. I don't thing we ever fed 3kgs a head though, but who knows your set-up and needs better than yourself.

bob charles

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Very little they will grow a bit of frame and a good fleece. There's no holding them back when they go to grass in the spring though, you wouldn't know them after a month of it.

I was going to reply NONE, until I saw your response:D

redzerologhlen

You have to admire nice work when you see it, the girlfriends auld lad had to put a trough in a part of the winterage for the burren life and he decided he was going to face it with stone, not something you would see every day!!



Breakfast the other day when I was cutting bushes, hard to beat it

Muckit

I hope you cracked an egg or two into the drippins after tipping out those bangers!

just do it

redzerologhlen wrote: »

You have to admire nice work when you see it, the girlfriends auld lad had to put a trough in a part of the winterage for the burren life and he decided he was going to face it with stone, not something you would see every day!!



Breakfast the other day when I was cutting bushes, hard to beat it

There's more to farming life than just gross margin/ha

pakalasa

I think you might have over done it on the cooking oil there, Redzer.

redzerologhlen

Muckit wrote: »

I hope you cracked an egg or two into the drippins after tipping out those bangers!

No eggs im afraid, I would never have managed to keep them intact on the way up.

just do it wrote: »

There's more to farming life than just gross margin/ha

Id go as far as to say there is more of a margin out of cutting a few bushes with the chainsaw than farming

pakalasa wrote: »

I think you might have over done it on the cooking oil there, Redzer.

I'll pass that onto herself pak

Muckit

Machinery shed


Slatted shed I made him

Bizzum

Here's a set-up I came across in my travels today. A bit of thought went into it.

Bodacious

Bizzum wrote: »

Here's a set-up I came across in my travels today. A bit of thought went into it.

What sort of money are them pasture pumps? He has fair operation there alright ... So pipe feeding them 4 is in a river somewhere And the cows pump it up to themselves
?