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What are your thoughts on an Irish man joining the Parachute regiment?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭paul75


    Thanks.

    Good to know Grandfather didn't really die of those horrific wounds sustained in North Africa and uncle didn't die over Osnabruck in a Lancaster. I can return their medals and papers as it was obviously a huge mistake. Next Saturday when I visit my grandfather's old neighbor I can tell him he imagined losing his friend in action and that he can stop having nightmares about the death camps - he didn't liberate them after all.

    In future drop the we - speak for yourself.
    What are you talking about? I was talking about the Irish state - I thought that was obvious.
    By the by, my grandad (catholic from the republic) joined the the british army in WW2. My grand uncle was in the merchant navy in WW2. They claimed that there were plenty of paddys in the BA during WW2 and that they didn't get any hassle about it when they returned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Jcarroll07


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    "young generation"

    Im 19 and I know countless who have the same opinion of the BA as me, so he cant make blanket statements like that.

    What's done is done and it looks like most of us have moved on. You should stop looking at things that happened in the past and still feel bitter. move on is my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Jcarroll07


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Speak for yourself.

    I am.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭LondonIrish90


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    "young generation"

    Im 19 and I know countless who have the same opinion of the BA as me, so he cant make blanket statements like that.

    Thats hardly representitive of society as a whole though is it? After all I seem to remember you have admitted to being a member of Sinn Fein which means that you will associate with a lot of people with similar views.

    To deplore the past actions of the British Army is completely understandable but to continue your hatred to the British army of the modern day is ridiculous. The men and women serving now are no different to you in many ways, and go through extraordinary hardships in a far away and inhospitable country. Those serving and those who are willing to serve, be it from Britain, Ireland or anywhere else deserve nothing but respect. They are not the people your anger and frustration needs to be directed towards imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    Thats hardly representitive of society as a whole though is it? After all I seem to remember you have admitted to being a member of Sinn Fein which means that you will associate with a lot of people with similar views.

    To deplore the past actions of the British Army is completely understandable but to continue your hatred to the British army of the modern day is ridiculous. The men and women serving now are no different to you in many ways, and go through extraordinary hardships in a far away and inhospitable country. Those serving and those who are willing to serve, be it from Britain, Ireland or anywhere else deserve nothing but respect. They are not the people your anger and frustration needs to be directed towards imo.

    the problem is not with the men and women serving 90% of whom are decent ordinary people , the problem is with a country/army/regiment that shoots a 12 year old girl in the back for fun , makes sure nobody was convicted and takes 35 to issue a hollow appolgy , yes i know its 35 years ago , and 50 years before that a british army were shooting innocent t people in ireland as well , and 50 years before that etc etc . so that country/army/regiment may not be shooting irish children anymore but you can be dammed sure that the mentality that allowed that to happen has not changed and 12 year old girls from belfast will be replaced by 12 year old girls in Iraq or Afghanistan or where ever

    so if you think a country/army/regiment deserves respect then your idea of respect is very different from mine


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Thats hardly representitive of society as a whole though is it? After all I seem to remember you have admitted to being a member of Sinn Fein which means that you will associate with a lot of people with similar views.

    To deplore the past actions of the British Army is completely understandable but to continue your hatred to the British army of the modern day is ridiculous. The men and women serving now are no different to you in many ways, and go through extraordinary hardships in a far away and inhospitable country. Those serving and those who are willing to serve, be it from Britain, Ireland or anywhere else deserve nothing but respect. They are not the people your anger and frustration needs to be directed towards imo.
    I have zero respect for any so called Irish man who swears loyalty to a foreign monarch and goes off on 21st century imperialistic conquests.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭Utrinque Paratus


    danbohan wrote: »
    the problem is not with the men and women serving 90% of whom are decent ordinary people , the problem is with a country/army/regiment that shoots a 12 year old girl in the back for fun , makes sure nobody was convicted and takes 35 to issue a hollow appolgy , yes i know its 35 years ago , and 50 years before that a british army were shooting innocent t people in ireland as well , and 50 years before that etc etc . so that country/army/regiment may not be shooting irish children anymore but you can be dammed sure that the mentality that allowed that to happen has not changed and 12 year old girls from belfast will be replaced by 12 year old girls in Iraq or Afghanistan or where ever

    so if you think a country/army/regiment deserves respect then your idea of respect is very different from mine


    Stop making up LIES, nobody "shot a 12 yr old in the back for fun", it would have been a negligent discharge at worst, as the soldier claimed he throught he was under sniper fire and accidently shot the girl with a GPMG.

    There is no way he would have shotr a 12 yr old girl in the back on purpose.


    "Williams, of the 3rd Battalion Parachute Regiment, claimed he had fired in response to an IRA sniper attack. The RUC investigated and the paratrooper was charged with murder.

    By the time of the trial, the charge had been reduced to manslaughter. Lord Justice Maurice Gibson, sitting alone without a jury, accepted there probably had been a gunman who fired simultaneously."


    "The hearing was told that two bullets fired from an army machine gun hit Majella. Williams was identified as the soldier who fired the machine gun. In his statement Williams again claimed he fired at a man in a hedge. An open verdict was returned. "


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    Stop making up LIES, nobody "shot a 12 yr old in the back for fun", it would have been a negligent discharge as the soldier claimed he throught he was under sniper fire and accidently shot the girl with a GPMG.

    There is no way he would have shotr a 12 yr old girl in the back on purpose.


    "Williams, of the 3rd Battalion Parachute Regiment, claimed he had fired in response to an IRA sniper attack. The RUC investigated and the paratrooper was charged with murder.

    By the time of the trial, the charge had been reduced to manslaughter. Lord Justice Maurice Gibson, sitting alone without a jury, accepted there probably had been a gunman who fired simultaneously."

    really , you have proof have you .probably was the same ira snipers were there on bloody sunday as well , this is the same people that shot joyriders and then painted murals mocking the dead teenagers , yes for fun


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭Utrinque Paratus


    danbohan wrote: »
    really , you have proof have you .probably was the same ira snipers were there on bloody sunday as well , this is the same people that shot joyriders and then painted murals mocking the dead teenagers , yes for fun


    Why are you making up lies about the death of a 12 yr old girl to score a cheap point ?

    Why would a soldier want to shoot a 12 yr old girl in the back on purpose ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭PatsytheNazi


    paul75 wrote: »
    Every western society is a target Patsy, it's just that we're further down the list.
    We let the americans and the brits die to protect our freedom. Our neutral stance on everything is a disgrace.
    ' Yawn '..........I suppose the Taliban airforce are preparing to attack the east coast while their navy is getting ready to invade on the west - if it wasn't for the Brits and the Yanks :rolleyes: :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Why are you making up lies about the death of a 12 yr old girl to score a cheap point ?

    Why would a soldier want to shoot a 12 yr old girl in the back on purpose ?
    Why would they want to kill all those people in Ballymurphy or Derry? Because they are murdering scumbags.

    In the case of the 12 year old girl so much so that even the RUC thought it was murder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    Why are you making up lies about the death of a 12 yr old girl to score a cheap point ?

    Why would a soldier want to shoot a 12 yr old girl in the back on purpose ?

    wheres the lie friend ?

    british soldeirs have been shooting irish people and children for 100s of years , maybe they were all accidents .???

    of course i would probably say it it was more down to ,racism , hatred , bigotry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,575 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Stop making up LIES, nobody "shot a 12 yr old in the back for fun", it would have been a negligent discharge at worst, as the soldier claimed he throught he was under sniper fire and accidently shot the girl with a GPMG.

    There is no way he would have shotr a 12 yr old girl in the back on purpose.

    Ahhh, the old McAnespie defence :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭Utrinque Paratus


    danbohan wrote: »
    wheres the lie friend ?

    british soldeirs have been shooting irish people and children for 100s of years , maybe they were all accidents .???

    of course i would probably say it it was more down to ,racism , hatred , bigotry


    I prefer to deal with FACTs as opposed to hysteria.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    I can understand hatred from those who were around to see and remember these events, but I can't understand people who are only teens who still hold such hatred. In fairness, the only major events of the Troubles I was around for was the PIRA and RIRA bombing campaigns of the mid 90s onwards, so I suppose it can be seen how I don't hold them in such a "noble" light.

    If this man can learn to forgive, I don't see why people my own age can't considering he experienced worse than any teenage kid from the Republic. http://www.richardmoore.ie/index.php/biography


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    This thread kind of shows the sort of people the OP was worried about and that they're views are narrow minded and bigoted and shouldn't be worried about them. Fortunately most irish people dont take these types seriously anymore and despite the fact that they make a lot of noise they're a small minority.

    OP if its what you want to do then go for it. It's your life and how you live it is up to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭raymann


    This thread kind of shows the sort of people the OP was worried about and that they're views are narrow minded and bigoted and shouldn't be worried about them. Fortunately most irish people dont take these types seriously anymore and despite the fact that they make a lot of noise they're a small minority.

    OP if its what you want to do then go for it. It's your life and how you live it is up to you.

    the thing is, ive always thought that the armchair republicans are exactly the sort of people that would be flag waving edl league thugs if they were born in england.

    it all comes down to a really base form of nationalism. same people on the same subjects over and over again.

    im 34 and want to see a 32 county republic in my lifetime, and on a purely pragmatic level, the only way this is ever going to happen is that the extreme voices on either side get more and more marginalized.

    thankfully you can see this happening, and it must frustrate them terribly. the same few voices jumping into threads and defending each other. most of the other people just do a post or two with there point of view and it carries much more weight.

    to the op, crack on, ireland has much greater things for us to worry about at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Jcarroll07


    What happened to the people in the north weather on porpoise or by accident (i don't know) should never have happened. But these incidents happened years ago at least the ones you are referring to. Some people in the Para regiment weren't even born. Times have changed and people have changed. We should remember what happened but at the same time be able to reilise these are different times and move on.

    Getting back to the trend. Like i said before. You should go for it. The people who said they'll have no respect for you well you don't need their respect they are living in the past.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Jcarroll07


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    I have zero respect for any so called Irish man who swears loyalty to a foreign monarch and goes off on 21st century imperialistic conquests.

    lucky them they don't need your respect.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭LondonIrish90


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    I have zero respect for any so called Irish man who swears loyalty to a foreign monarch and goes off on 21st century imperialistic conquests.

    I'm sure these Irishmen, who have managed to pass one of the most demanding infantry training courses in the world, are gutted they don't have your backing.

    If you really believe that the war in Afghanistan is an "imperialistic conquest" (which the Irish military has contributed to, may I add) then you either are letting your bias cloud your understanding of basic facts, or as I strongly suspect, you are being intentionally belligerent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    I prefer to deal with FACTs as opposed to hysteria.

    no you prefer to distort FACTS , i guess its your para training


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭raymann


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    I have zero respect for any so called Irish man who swears loyalty to a foreign monarch and goes off on 21st century imperialistic conquests.

    your 19. i think you need to get a grip son!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    raymann wrote: »
    your 19. i think you need to get a grip son!

    whats his age got to do with anything , hes got a viewpoint that you dont agree with , get over it hes entitled to have it , furthermore for some of us its a valid viewpoint , perhaps your the one needs to get a grip


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    danbohan wrote: »
    whats his age got to do with anything , hes got a viewpoint that you dont agree with , get over it hes entitled to have it , furthermore for some of us its a valid viewpoint , perhaps your the one needs to get a grip

    Yet you and the republican posters on here don't seem to afford that respect to those whose viewpoints you dont agree with. Funny that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭Utrinque Paratus


    BACK ON TOPIC.

    http://www.hmforces.co.uk/training/articles/182-british-army-entrance-fitness-requirements


    British Army Entrance Fitness Requirements

    The Parachute Regiment has a slightly different system in that there are two time targets and also the run is followed by a static weight lift of 116kg or more.

    If the 1.5 mile run is completed in 9 mins 18 secs or less the lift has to be completed but it is not considered in the final result.

    If the run is completed between 9 mins 19 secs and 9 mins 40 secs the performance in the static lift will be considered in the final result.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭raymann


    danbohan wrote: »
    whats his age got to do with anything , hes got a viewpoint that you dont agree with , get over it hes entitled to have it , furthermore for some of us its a valid viewpoint , perhaps your the one needs to get a grip

    as someone else mentioned, its more his delivery of his viewpoint and his complete dismissal of other peoples opinions that I have issue with.

    regardless of his age, when i come across people with completely entrenched opinions that will never change, i do tend to disregard them because i cant see a single situation where taking this sort of position results the best possible understanding. also, im taking generally here you understand, lots of these type of people are basically a bit dim.

    and yes, to clarify, i dont think a 19 year old has the life experience to present themselves as such a de-facto moral authority on such a sensitive complicated subject. every post ive read of his has compounded this opinion.

    anyway, im out, i dont argue on the internet, my general point is clear and i dont think there is anything for me to learn here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭Prefab Sprouter


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    I have zero respect for any so called Irish man who swears loyalty to a foreign monarch and goes off on 21st century imperialistic conquests.
    On the other hand I have no problem with a citizen of the European Union who elects to join another army in the EU. :)

    From your above statement you dont like to see Irishmen fight for any country with a Monarchy, so if I follow you correctly, in your opinion the OP shouldnt go and join the armies of Belgium, Denmark, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Spain and Sweden. Now there's a gang of 21st Century Imperialists if ever I saw one :D Oh Yeah and Great Britain too ;).

    Tell me when you talk about Monarchy, have you just got a problem with Hereditary Monarchies or do you object to other forms such as sacerdotal-monarchical states such as the Vatican?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    Yet you and the republican posters on here don't seem to afford that respect to those whose viewpoints you dont agree with. Funny that.

    ogh but we do , the problem is many of the posters your referring too dont really like any alternative viewpoints been put forward at all .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭PatsytheNazi


    BACK ON TOPIC.

    http://www.hmforces.co.uk/training/articles/182-british-army-entrance-fitness-requirements


    British Army Entrance Fitness Requirements

    The Parachute Regiment has a slightly different system in that there are two time targets and also the run is followed by a static weight lift of 116kg or more.

    If the 1.5 mile run is completed in 9 mins 18 secs or less the lift has to be completed but it is not considered in the final result.

    If the run is completed between 9 mins 19 secs and 9 mins 40 secs the performance in the static lift will be considered in the final result.
    What do you mean by " is followed by a static weight lift of 116kg (255 lbs) or more. " ? Is it what a guy can pick up and carry for a short distance in a back pack or what ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭PatsytheNazi


    On the other hand I have no problem with a citizen of the European Union who elects to join another army in the EU. :)

    From your above statement you dont like to see Irishmen fight for any country with a Monarchy, so if I follow you correctly, in your opinion the OP shouldnt go and join the armies of Belgium, Denmark, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Spain and Sweden. Now there's a gang of 21st Century Imperialists if ever I saw one :D Oh Yeah and Great Britain too ;).

    Tell me when you talk about Monarchy, have you just got a problem with Hereditary Monarchies or do you object to other forms such as sacerdotal-monarchical states such as the Vatican?
    It's one thing joining a fellow EU army. It's another joining the army of a country, and for that matter in particuliar the Parachute regiment, that has murdered Irish people and as long as Britain occupies any part of Ireland will easily do so again.

    At least that's one thing you have to give the Taliban, they've never come to Ireland to murder Irish citizens.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭Utrinque Paratus


    What do you mean by " is followed by a static weight lift of 116kg (255 lbs) or more. " ? Is it what a guy can pick up and carry for a short distance in a back pack or what ?

    Its how many leg rises you can do with that weight after a 1.5 mile run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭paul75


    ' Yawn '..........I suppose the Taliban airforce are preparing to attack the east coast while their navy is getting ready to invade on the west - if it wasn't for the Brits and the Yanks :rolleyes: :)
    Islamist terrorism/aggression/war against the west is a threat you tool, london 7/7 bombings, madrid train bombings, bali nightclub bombings - they don't need an air force or a navy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭PatsytheNazi


    Its how many leg rises you can do with that weight after a 1.5 mile run.
    So your telling me that they run with 255lbs (over 18 stone) for 1.5 miles and then do "leg rises" ( I presume what we call in weight training - squats) ? :D

    You Brit army fans are a complete bunch of Walters :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    Tell you what you tell us all how someone can realistically become a professional soldier when they are Irish. Considering the current low PDF recruitment options.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭PatsytheNazi


    paul75 wrote: »
    Islamist terrorism/aggression/war against the west is a threat you tool, london 7/7 bombings, madrid train bombings, bali nightclub bombings - they don't need an air force or a navy
    Your the one claiming that " We let the americans and the brits die to protect our freedom. " you tool. You'd think by your postings that the Taliban were almost geting ready to invade Ireland if it wasn't for the Brits and the Yanks :) As I said, because of neutrality we don't go bombing villages in the middle east so the Taliban aren't interested in bombing us.

    Besides, even if they wanted to, the Guards, Airport security, the Customs Service etc will deal professionally with any potential threat. We don't need some tool claiming ' mother ' Britain is our real protector or something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭PatsytheNazi


    Zambia wrote: »
    Tell you what you tell us all how someone can realistically become a professional soldier when they are Irish. Considering the current low PDF recruitment options.
    I would have thought it the opposite ? Is it not the case that some of those who are not good enough to join the PDF look to the Brits ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    So your telling me that they run with 255lbs (over 18 stone) for 1.5 miles and then do "leg rises" ( I presume what we call in weight training - squats) ? :D

    You Brit army fans are a complete bunch of Walters :)

    If you think that's what he said, you need your eyes checked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭PatsytheNazi


    If you think that's what he said, you need your eyes checked.
    If their's anyone who needs his eyes checked around here it's you Einstein. As per post #126


    " The Parachute Regiment has a slightly different system in that there are two time targets and also the run is followed by a static weight lift of 116kg or more. If the 1.5 mile run is completed in 9 mins 18 secs or less "
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=71403622&postcount=126

    (116kg = 255lbs, over 18 stone)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭cyrusdvirus


    If their's anyone who needs his eyes checked around here it's you Einstein. As per post #126


    " The Parachute Regiment has a slightly different system in that there are two time targets and also the run is followed by a static weight lift of 116kg or more. If the 1.5 mile run is completed in 9 mins 18 secs or less "
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=71403622&postcount=126

    (116kg = 255lbs, over 18 stone)

    they run the 1.5 miles... Then do the weight thing. It's not THAT difficult to understand Pat.

    Now i know that cos you hate all things english, that we're typing in your second language here (and may i compliment you on such a good grasp of it) but it's still not that hard to grasp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭paul75


    Your the one claiming that " We let the americans and the brits die to protect our freedom. " you tool. You'd think by your postings that the Taliban were almost geting ready to invade Ireland if it wasn't for the Brits and the Yanks :) As I said, because of neutrality we don't go bombing villages in the middle east so the Taliban aren't interested in bombing us.

    Besides, even if they wanted to, the Guards, Airport security, the Customs Service etc will deal professionally with any potential threat. We don't need some tool claiming ' mother ' Britain is our real protector or something.
    The war in afghanastan is about preventing the spread of islamist terrorism. Un-checked, the spread of islamist terrorism is a threat to every western society, agreed?
    Therefore, the fact that the brits and the americans are fighting the war, they are helping to protect us, the swiss, the danes, the greeks etc. Is this any clearer to you? You reckon we just just leave the whole thing to the gardai?
    Maybe it would be easier for you to accept if it was just the americans involved


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭PatsytheNazi


    gatecrash wrote: »
    they run the 1.5 miles... Then do the weight thing. It's not THAT difficult to understand Pat.

    Now i know that cos you hate all things english, that we're typing in your second language here (and may i compliment you on such a good grasp of it) but it's still not that hard to grasp.
    Ok so they run 1.5 miles in combat gear in 9 mins and lift 18 stone.....f***ing EASY :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭PatsytheNazi


    paul75 wrote: »
    The war in afghanastan is about preventing the spread of islamist terrorism. Un-checked, the spread of islamist terrorism is a threat to every western society, agreed?
    Therefore, the fact that the brits and the americans are fighting the war, they are helping to protect us, the swiss, the danes, the greeks etc. Is this any clearer to you? You reckon we just just leave the whole thing to the gardai?
    Maybe it would be easier for you to accept if it was just the americans involved
    Afghanistan, weapons of mass destruction etc are the causes of Islamic extremism. The Brits or Yanks are no more " fighting the war, they are helping to protect us " than they went they believed in weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

    As stated, our Guards, Airport security, Customs Service etc will do our protecting. We never asked for, nor need the Brits or anyone else pretending that bombing villages on the far side of the world is done for the 'protection' of Ireland.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 2,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Morpheus


    Afghanistan, weapons of mass destruction etc are the causes of Islamic extremism.

    :rolleyes:
    reeeeeallly??? please expand on this one.
    As stated, our Guards, Airport security, Customs Service etc will do our protecting.

    and THIS DRIVEL has to be the silliest thing Ive seen yet. Guards? Airport Security? customs Service? how on EARTH do you expect them to be able to "protect" us.

    So if there was a mumbai style terrorist attack in Ireland (not unthinkable, there ARE extremists here you know!!! and not just of the muslim stereotype...)

    I suppose they'd fight them off with batons, metal detector wands and paperwork??

    *sits back with a bag of popcorn*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    If their's anyone who needs his eyes checked around here it's you Einstein. As per post #126


    " The Parachute Regiment has a slightly different system in that there are two time targets and also the run is followed by a static weight lift of 116kg or more. If the 1.5 mile run is completed in 9 mins 18 secs or less "
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=71403622&postcount=126

    (116kg = 255lbs, over 18 stone)

    Yep, I read it, *and* comprehended it. Well done on getting 50% of that though, if even.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭PatsytheNazi


    Morphéus wrote: »
    :rolleyes:
    reeeeeallly??? please expand on this one.



    and THIS DRIVEL has to be the silliest thing Ive seen yet. Guards? Airport Security? customs Service? how on EARTH do you expect them to be able to "protect" us.

    So if there was a mumbai style terrorist attack in Ireland (not unthinkable, there ARE extremists here you know!!! and not just of the muslim stereotype...)

    I suppose they'd fight them off with batons, metal detector wands and paperwork??

    *sits back with a bag of popcorn*
    " a mumbai style terrorist attack in Ireland " Getting a bit paranoid now aren't you :D

    And as for Islamic extremists, I have confidence in the Guards, Customs who through surveillance, monitoring etc will as far as possible safeguard the country. Unlike the Brit army groupies on boards.ie who'll instead tell us we have to thank the Parachute regiment and co. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭MajorMax


    I have never had a problem with the parachute Regiment. I have a problem with the people who send a Regiment of Highly trained aggresive Light Infantry Soldiers to act as a reserve police force and then seem surprised when the inevitable happens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Jcarroll07


    Out of interest how long is para training?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭Utrinque Paratus


    So your telling me that they run with 255lbs (over 18 stone) for 1.5 miles and then do "leg rises" ( I presume what we call in weight training - squats) ? :D

    You Brit army fans are a complete bunch of Walters :)

    stop trying to create confusion.

    Your saying this official British army site is a walt site ?

    http://www.hmforces.co.uk/training/articles/182-british-army-entrance-fitness-requirements

    "The Parachute Regiment has a slightly different system in that there are two time targets and also the run is followed by a static weight lift of 116kg or more."

    Not squats, it means lifting the barbell from the ground to waist level, by bending your legs then straighening as you lift, while gripping the barbell with your hands. 8 or more is a good score.

    10 or more heaves is also a good score.

    http://www.eliteukforces.info/parachute-regiment/selection/
    Preliminary Tests

    Para hopefuls first have to undergo a preliminary interview and BARB test at a Armed Forces Careers Office. The BARB (British Army Recruit Battery) test is a series of time questions displayed on a computer touch screen. Potential Paras are expected to have higher than average BARB scores.

    After the initial interview/BARB tests at an Army Careers Office, Para candidates move onto...
    Recruit Selection Centre (RSC)

    .All candidates wishing to join the British Army must pass RSC, which comprises:

    * Full medical by an Army doctor.
    * Basic physical tests
    * Interviews with Army officers.

    RSC lasts 24 hours and takes place at an Army Training Regiment (ATR)

    On successfully completion of the initial selection steps, candidates move on to more Para-specific tests...
    Parachute Regiment Aptitude Course (PRAC)

    * Gym tests
    1. 15 sit-ups on a bench angled at 45 degrees.
    2. 10 dips on the parallel bar.
    3. 10 underarm heaves to the bar.
    * 5 Mile Run
    1. 3 miles squadded
    2. 1 & half miles in best time
    * Steeplechase Course
    2 circuits in no more than 12 minutes

    Those who pass initial selection will move on to mainstream training, which includes the Pre-Parachute Selection (PPS) course run by Pegasus Company (P Coy).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭Prefab Sprouter


    It's one thing joining a fellow EU army. It's another joining the army of a country, and for that matter in particuliar the Parachute regiment, that has murdered Irish people and as long as Britain occupies any part of Ireland will easily do so again.
    Well thats your opinion and you are entitled to it, I thank you for your constructive input and it has been noted. :D

    Does Britain really occupy part of the Republic?? ;)

    At least that's one thing you have to give the Taliban, they've never come to Ireland to murder Irish citizens.
    Yeah, we should really go all out to defend them because they've never murdered any Irish people :rolleyes: What a class act they are.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭rockagusroll


    Jcarroll07 wrote: »
    Out of interest how long is para training?

    28 weeks, 2 weeks longer than the standard infantryman course.


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