Harlequin duathlon castlebar

woody1

anyone doing this at the weekend, still havent made up my mind, have no-where near enough training done but im considering using it as training ( albeit expensive training )
probably end up walking up the hill run though

yop

Good few of us from the Wheelers club doing it, not looking forward to it one single bit, that fricking booster killed my knees last year and put me out for near 2 months but I will definitely be walking the last 3rd of it, more striding than walking!

The cycle out to it is tasty too!

woody1

yeah ive driven out that road a few times and thought it must be a killer on a bike i really dont know will have to check the weather forecast now i think if it was due to be lashin or something that would kill it altogether

yop

woody1 wrote: »

yeah ive driven out that road a few times and thought it must be a killer on a bike i really dont know will have to check the weather forecast now i think if it was due to be lashin or something that would kill it altogether

I am doing the Connemara 1/2 and run out them hills to the base of the booster a real "mint with the" opener for sure. On the bike there are probably 3 good hills, outside of that you will be sound.
Funny I was running it about 1 month back and there was a girl cycling it for the first time, I ended up catching her on the 2nd hill, needless to say she wasn't too impressed!

Fitzilicious

I'm doing it for my sins!!
Starting to get a bit worried about the booster station....the last time I ran it was about 3 years ago when I was very unfit compared to what I am now!
Just going to put the head down and take my time!!
Cycle shouldn't be too bad, I have done it a few times!

Has anyone gotten any info since registration?
I would have thought we might have gotten something by now!

yop

Fitzilicious wrote: »

I'm doing it for my sins!!
Starting to get a bit worried about the booster station....the last time I ran it was about 3 years ago when I was very unfit compared to what I am now!
Just going to put the head down and take my time!!
Cycle shouldn't be too bad, I have done it a few times!

Has anyone gotten any info since registration?
I would have thought we might have gotten something by now!

I was thinkin that last night, haven't seen any posters or got any emails which is strange. I don't think the sign up was massive.

Fitzilicious

I had a look on the Harlequin hotel website and it says that an information email should be sent no later than March 22nd so we should get something today!

Apparently numbers are up on last year anyway, that's why they have had to change the transition areas and the cycle bit after the booster station (only tiny difference). That's what it says on the Facebook page anyway!

Granite Head

Hi - signed up for this at the beginning of the year when I was all full of good intentions. Since then the training has been "sporadic" to say the least - a few 50k cycles in Wicklow and a few 10k runs around trails. I don't know the course and from the previous comments I am now very worried about completing the course before darkness

Anyone who has done the event last year advice on pacing, what sections to watch out for?

Thanks

yop

Granite Head wrote: »

Hi - signed up for this at the beginning of the year when I was all full of good intentions. Since then the training has been "sporadic" to say the least - a few 50k cycles in Wicklow and a few 10k runs around trails. I don't know the course and from the previous comments I am now very worried about completing the course before darkness

Anyone who has done the event last year advice on pacing, what sections to watch out for?

Thanks

You will be sound, it starts at 9am and it won't be dark til 7pm.

From what I was told last year the pace at the start in the 3km left a few boys blowing hard on the bike as there are 2 nice hills at the start of the bike. After that you have another 2 sorta hills then off the bike onto the run to the booster.
The first 1/2 km is an incline, flating out then and downhill until about 2km, then the incline begins and is steady for the next 2km or so. Then its turn and back down the 4km, all tarmac, run to the bike.
The next section of the bike is grand, a nice couple of km down hill on a tight road which isn't closed so beware of traffic.
Turn left heading for Castlebar and the surface is undulating but nothing too major on it.
Off the bike again and then another 3km run. I did something similar in Ballinrobe a few weeks back and the final run I found terrible on the calves.

But you will enjoy it.

I won't be fit to run all the booster so will end up striding the last 2km section to the top.

woody1

granite head from the sounds of it youve more done than i have and im increasingly tempted to do it... if your doing 50k cycles and 10k runs id say youl be fine and probably finish in the middle of the pack somewhere, these races are all about pacing for mere mortals like us and as yop says if you go out hard with the crowd at the start there might not be a lot in the tank for later on.... and youl need it in the tank for the booster ( hill run )
think im just gonna do it at half pace and see how i feel after the hill run, if im able to speed up i will, if not il just take it handy and get a break in on the bike and try to put in a decent last run... hopefully the off road section doesnt make sh*te out of my bike
off to check the weather forecast

by the way i thought they were 2 x 4k runs, just checked and it is indeed a 3 and a 4k so its a km shorter than i thought... its only a kilometre but i feel much better about doing it now

woody1

http://www.accuweather.com/en-us/ie/mayo/castlebar/details5.aspx

no rain anyway..think that settles it...will enter later on, if i can get clearance

yop

woody1 wrote: »

granite head
by the way i thought they were 2 x 4k runs, just checked and it is indeed a 3 and a 4k so its a km shorter than i thought... its only a kilometre but i feel much better about doing it now

there is no offroad section! Its all tarmac!

4km at end!

ronanmac

yop wrote: »

Funny I was running it about 1 month back and there was a girl cycling it for the first time, I ended up catching her on the 2nd hill, needless to say she wasn't too impressed!

I can imagine that she was pretty p*ssed off with that alright!
Was hoping to do this one myself as a few of the lads I know did it last year and liked it, despite it being pretty savage by all accounts. Injury rules me out (breathes sigh of relief at having good excuse to hand )

Mr Freeze

Will be doing it too.

The runs are 1km longer than last years race it would appear, probably due to the new road layout at Next.

The runs were only 2.8km last year, now its down as a 3km and 4km and one site its down as 2 4kms. Hard to know what to expect!

Looking forward to it anyways, well all of it except for the booster.

What changes have they made for the bike transitions?

woody1

Quote:
Originally Posted by woody1
granite head
by the way i thought they were 2 x 4k runs, just checked and it is indeed a 3 and a 4k so its a km shorter than i thought... its only a kilometre but i feel much better about doing it now

there is no offroad section! Its all tarmac!

i suppose that depends on your definition of off-road.. to the best of my knowledge the bike transition at the booster is now down the little road to the booster a bit... that road was like the surface of the moon the last time i was on it, mind you that was in a car.... admittedly there may be tarmac on it somewhere.. theres also a lot of holes.. and then looking at the map you go off that road to the right on the way back from transition on the bike... again ive never seen a road there before so im presuming its a forestry road or fire road...

from facebook page

The Off road bike section will mean a change of tyres for most, I would recommend Continental Gator skins. The 2 transitions have also moved, this is to help the race run more smooth.

The cycle from T2 will have an extra 1km of off road which has a steep 200m climb so low bike gearing is now important. see map attached.

theres a map on the facebook page and the harlequin hotel website showing the change

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=202411023120674&set=a.184684824893294.49051.179593808735729&theater

Mr Freeze

Those sound like major changes to the bike section, that road wouldn't be the best for cycling on to be honest. I was out there for a look a few weeks ago and there was a guy there with a puncture on it. Might be running with the bike on the shoulder for that bit.

Can't see the map here, Facebook is blocked, and its wont open on my phone either.

woody1

i think ive attached the actual image this time

Mr Freeze

Well, I was looking forward to the event, but hate the thought of bad offroad sections on racers.

yop

woody1 wrote: »

Quote:
Originally Posted by woody1
granite head
by the way i thought they were 2 x 4k runs, just checked and it is indeed a 3 and a 4k so its a km shorter than i thought... its only a kilometre but i feel much better about doing it now

there is no offroad section! Its all tarmac!

i suppose that depends on your definition of off-road.. to the best of my knowledge the bike transition at the booster is now down the little road to the booster a bit... that road was like the surface of the moon the last time i was on it, mind you that was in a car.... admittedly there may be tarmac on it somewhere.. theres also a lot of holes.. and then looking at the map you go off that road to the right on the way back from transition on the bike... again ive never seen a road there before so im presuming its a forestry road or fire road...

from facebook page

The Off road bike section will mean a change of tyres for most, I would recommend Continental Gator skins. The 2 transitions have also moved, this is to help the race run more smooth.

The cycle from T2 will have an extra 1km of off road which has a steep 200m climb so low bike gearing is now important. see map attached.

theres a map on the facebook page and the harlequin hotel website showing the change

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=202411023120674&set=a.184684824893294.49051.179593808735729&theater

For fook sake, not impressed to be honest with you on that one, I wont be buying gators but I don't want to be ruining the wheels on my new bike either with that.
Why they had to change it is beyond me, the link to the bike shop and new tires would be too obvious a reason wouldn't it...... :eek:

Apologise on that woody, I was going on last years course. That road is not the best, if you have good tires and good wheels it might not be great idea to cycle it.

Mr Freeze

yop wrote: »

For fook sake....I was going on last years course. That road is not the best, if you have good tires and good wheels it might not be great idea to cycle it.

Remember when we went up there the 1st time last year, where you parked, that road off to the left? that is where its going up I think.

Well I best get my old racer ready, and replace the tires on it for this section.

I might spin over there after work tomorrow, and take a stroll on the new section, if I get time, big IF.

woody1

For fook sake....I was going on last years course. That road is not the best, if you have good tires and good wheels it might not be great idea to cycle it.

not a big bikie person so to be honest i dont know if my wheels are good are bad its a claud butler levante that i have and there are a lot less spokes on the wheels than other bikes ... and ive had a spoke break on me already on a normal road.. tyre wise the bike came with puncture proof ( resistant ! ) tyres their not the continental some other brand
so i wouldnt be awful panicked about that ... id be more worried about the wheels... if ye get a look at it before tomorrow evening could ye let me know what ye think... deadline for registration is tomorrow evening i think

yop

CKWPORT wrote: »

Remember when we went up there the 1st time last year, where you parked, that road off to the left? that is where its going up I think.

Well I best get my old racer ready, and replace the tires on it for this section.

I might spin over there after work tomorrow, and take a stroll on the new section, if I get time, big IF.

I know it ya. Not a great section of road. Cud be as well to jump off the bike at the bottom and carry it up or run with it

Mr Freeze

yop wrote: »

I know it ya. Not a great section of road. Cud be as well to jump off the bike at the bottom and carry it up or run with it

For 600m??

I don't see how this change is going to cater for bigger numbers to be honest. Unless they are racking the bikes in a line up that road....Its a spanner in the works for me anyways.

Glad I saw that today, and not closer to the weekend, I assumed the course was the same.

woody1 wrote: »

f ye get a look at it before tomorrow evening could ye let me know what ye think... deadline for registration is tomorrow evening i think

It will be Thursday evening before I can get near it for a look I think.

yop

The road is long, they will probably have a rack down 1 side, don't think that road is very wide though.
We will manage it

woody1

grand..no worries... i might have to take a chance on it so.. of registration closes late tomorrow il try to get down there straight after work... i hate the thougts of running with a bike... i know people will say thats part of an adventure race etc but i just hate the feckin thought of it

Granite Head

What was the mandatory kit (if any) last year?

Mr Freeze

Granite Head wrote: »

What was the mandatory kit (if any) last year?

None that I remember with the exception of cycling helmet of course & puncture repair gear on your bike!

TheEagles

Any one get any email yet on the event? no major communication from the organisers since i signed up. i did the sea 2summit last year and they had a great website and regular emails. for €50 there doesnt seem to be any major signs around castlebar for it or much talk.

woody1

well i've committed to it now anyway..just signed up there..

this is just up on runireland

http://www.runireland.com/news/300-participants-race-castlebar-streets-from

hopefully meself and me poor bike will survive it !

Mr Freeze

Was the offroad section recently added? or has it being there from when the 2011 race was announced?

woody1

i dunno if it was there from the start but its been on the website for the past 4 to 6 weeks at least as ive been toying with the idea of this race for that long and keeping and eye on the various websites

Mr Freeze

I signed up months ago and didn't look at the site since. So it came as a surprise to me.

woody1

little bit slack that there hasnt been any communication with the entrants ... and e-mail 3 or 4 weeks ago to fill people in and let them get a look at the altered course and adjust accordingly, wouldnt have been that hard to do,

yop

Its pi*S poor to be honest with you. Even the race we did in Ballinrobe or the one out in Carraroe sent out details and they were 1/2 the price.

The change to the course, fair enough, but tell us in an email and not by some fluke that you might stumble across it on a forum.

I am surprised though as Seb was involved with this last year and from what I recall we got good communication about it, might be an idea to drop them an email to see what the story is.

locteau

Hi Guys,

You will receive the information later this evening as we are getting some extra spot prices from the sponsors etc.... Tshirts and after food party

the two main changes are the first transition has been moved to avoid road crossing.

The transition 2 was also moved as we did not have enough place for 300 people there (over 250 entries so far).

The off road part is not ideal but it is a "Adventure duathlon" which mean you need to use your abilities to cope with road / of road situation as explained in the information pack.

Details will be posted on runireland.com website before Friday.

yop

locteau wrote: »

Hi Guys,

You will receive the information later this evening as we are getting some extra spot prices from the sponsors etc.... Tshirts and after food party

the two main changes are the first transition has been moved to avoid road crossing.

The transition 2 was also moved as we did not have enough place for 300 people there (over 250 entries so far).

The off road part is not ideal but it is a "Adventure duathlon" which mean you need to use your abilities to cope with road / of road situation as explained in the information pack.

Details will be posted on runireland.com website before Friday.

Thanks Seb, suspected you might have an update on here

What condition is that trail in out of interest, I know its bog road and probably similar to the bog road which we used in Gaelforce last year, any idea of distance on it?

On that though, we got no information packs or any email since we reg'd so as mentioned, unless people signed up to the facebook page or stumbled across this page then Saturday's new route would be a complete surprise. Getting an email today will leave people very tight on time to get replacement tires.

Mr Freeze

I was chatting to a few people last night who are doing the event, and it was news to them that there is an offroad section.

Had I not come on here, I wouldn't have found out, and would have went to the race on a racer with slicks, I have to change now to tougher tires. Not easy get them, its seems most people are only finding out now, and the gators are flying out the door.

snailsong

Doing this too. I even trained a little bit. Did it last wednesday:).

Not too impressed with the flow of info either. Have heard various reports about the two runs, start and finish. A 3 then a 4, a 4 then a 3 or two 4s? The map would seem to suggest we do the same run in two directions. How hard would it be to measure it?

elchupanebrey

Will have to stick the damn kevlar tyres back on again so. Still looking forward to it despite the changes, a day like today would be some consolation.

yop

elchupanebrey wrote: »

Will have to stick the damn kevlar tyres back on again so. Still looking forward to it despite the changes, a day like today would be some consolation.

You will be back down that black hole again if you don't comply :cool:

elchupanebrey

I'm only getting out Friday evening

woody1

related question ... i see that people are talking about putting the puncture proof tyres back on... why would you take them off ... do they make a difference time wise, reason i ask is i bought my bike second hand and they came on it..so is it worth investing in a normal pair as well to change to when the others arent needed...

Mr Freeze

woody1 wrote: »

related question ... i see that people are talking about putting the puncture proof tyres back on... why would you take them off ... do they make a difference time wise, reason i ask is i bought my bike second hand and they came on it..so is it worth investing in a normal pair as well to change to when the others arent needed...

Depends what you are at Woody to be honest, some people might put a slick tire on for bike races, and in my case, I left my kevlar tire on all winter and was using a turbo trainer and burnt a good tire away, so I have to get a replacement now, as I am bringing my old bike now due to the route change, instead of my new bike which has slicks on it.

elchupanebrey

CKWPORT wrote: »

Depends what you are at Woody to be honest, some people might put a slick tire on for bike races, and in my case, I left my kevlar tire on all winter and was using a turbo trainer and burnt a good tire away, so I have to get a replacement now, as I am bringing my old bike now due to the route change, instead of my new bike which has slicks on it.

Same here, I wanted to replace the back tyre after spinning so I just bought a slick or whatever you call them. The Kevlar one isn't too badly worn so i'll stick it back on for this.

Mr Freeze

well congrats on that 100th post

My kevlar is toast, so don't forget to pick up that gatorskin for me tomorrow like a good boy!

locteau

Guys,

The information pack is on runireland for over 6 month at the bottom of the page where you entered

Distance where just change on the run due new location of the T1 and T2.

There was updates on the runireland news each week, facebook support and email support 7 days a week. And most of people have my phone number

Regarding tyres to be honest it is a rough patch so what you do is your decision, it is of road after all. I would like to think athletes put some brain storming of managing the Adventure :eek:

Email will be send shortly.

toomuchdetail

Havent entered (yet tbc) but I have to say even as a non enterant I knew about the changes thru FB and the interweb, maybe I am a nosey pig and have too much time on my hands
Saying that it makes no difference to me as I have not raced this course before.
Would be concerned about the bike thou .

locteau

Well Padraig Marrey design this part of the course so if you did Sea to Summit you should know what to expect as a small adventure race.

I just sent the race briefing, remember this is not a TI sanctioned event.

I will be preparing the course for the next few days so won't be on boards. feel free to email us

Seb

Fitzilicious

Are people going with bike shoes or runners all the way??

TheEagles

I'll be going with runners all the way, not to sure if there's enough cycling to go with the bike shoes. plus carrying the shoes will be a pain.

I read thru the race brief this morning that was sent out, i dont see any thing about a mandatory kit??

Do i take this as bringing repair kits/first aid etc.. if you want??

Fitzilicious

Hmmm....really only thought of pedals when I got the brief....if I can get my hands on pedals before then might be worth my while changing!

Re the kit, I think you have to have tubes, tyre levers and a pump....everything else is optional!