Stargate Universe S02E13 Alliances ***Spoilers***

Sherifu

Summary: While a U.S. Senator visits Destiny, Camille and Sgt. Greer are trapped when Homeworld Command comes under alien attack.

TheIrishGrover

Rushed

Meh. Missed opportunity to use Greer, and Ming-Na's character (Can never remember her name) is still too annoying to watch. Yeah, yer man Steward was practically unrecognisable.

Edit: Just saw from OP that her name was Camille. Will forget it next week again (Hopefully)

Antar Bolaeisk

Rushed

I still refer to her as lesbian since it's the only defining characteristic of hers that I can remember. I pretty much agree with what you said though, too much lesbian and not enough token black guy.

phill106

That guy from 3rd rock has no stones

Good episode i thought. In greers defence, its hard to be a token black guy in a purple vneck...

hightower1

THIS .... IS .... NOT ..... PROPER .... SCI-FI!!!

What a boring POS episode. Any cool cg shots? Where are the fight scenes? Where are the space battles? Where are the cool alien weapons? Where is the sex appeal?.... All THESE things are basic requirements for good sci fi.

What did this EP have?? Slight character growth....W.O.W. <Let me pick my jaw up off the floor> sarcasim

This EP and the others like it are exactly why SGU is on its death throws.

Dwaegon

That guy from 3rd rock has no stones

hightower1 wrote: »

THIS .... IS .... NOT ..... PROPER .... SCI-FI!!!

What a boring POS episode. Any cool cg shots? Where are the fight scenes? Where are the space battles? Where are the cool alien weapons? Where is the sex appeal?.... All THESE things are basic requirements for good sci fi.

What did this EP have?? Slight character growth....W.O.W. <Let me pick my jaw up off the floor> sarcasim

This EP and the others like it are exactly why SGU is on its death throws.

Christ, sounds like you'd only be happy if Michael Bay directed porn!

Antar Bolaeisk

Rushed

What you describe is not proper sci-fi either.

Stargate is sci-fi in that it has, to a certain extent, sci-fi trappings. For it to be good sci-fi it would require interesting stories, well told and with interesting characters but this is the case with any genre. Universe seems to lack all three for at least a good half of it's shows.

tallaghtmick

hightower1 wrote: »

THIS .... IS .... NOT ..... PROPER .... SCI-FI!!!

there was 1 space ship,1 naquadria bomb,part of another ship,and a black guy in a purple v-neck thats stuff you will never see therefore sci-fi:pac:

D-Generate

Lowest Audience Ever! - (Richard will be along with the ratings)

I was so disappointed with the episode. A planetary assault on Earth is happening and instead we have to watch some folks in rubble with a Geiger counter.

I refuse to believe that the scriptwriter for this episode can put down the pen and go "Ah that is a masterpiece!". I am sure if i had a few weeks to pen something involving an assault on Earth I wouldn't set it inside a room with some rubble....

GSPfan

That guy from 3rd rock has no stones

I liked it.

TheIrishGrover

Rushed

hightower1 wrote: »

THIS .... IS .... NOT ..... PROPER .... SCI-FI!!!

What a boring POS episode. Any cool cg shots? Where are the fight scenes? Where are the space battles? Where are the cool alien weapons? Where is the sex appeal?.... All THESE things are basic requirements for good sci fi.

What did this EP have?? Slight character growth....W.O.W. <Let me pick my jaw up off the floor> sarcasim

This EP and the others like it are exactly why SGU is on its death throws.

THIS .... IS .... NOT ..... PROPER .... SCI-FI ... FAN!!!


That probably is the most inane summation of Sci-Fi from a supposed SF fan. And, no, it's SF "fans" like you with a narrow vision of SF that are the reason that SGU and others of it's ilk are being canceled. But it's OK. Transformers 3 is coming out with plenty of pew pew moments (in more ways than one) in it to keep ya happy

Richard Dower

McKay

Did someone mention ratings?

Stargate Universe (SYFY)
- 0.814 million viewers
- 0.5/1 HH
- 0.4/1 A18-49

^ ouch!....it was an OK episode, French Stewart has aged.....not much to add really.

LoGiE

Lowest Audience Ever! - (Richard will be along with the ratings)

Yawn... They could have used the scientist on Destiny to discover some new revelations about it's mission. Instead we get what felt like a hark back to the early days of SG1 with no budget:(

hightower1

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

it's SF "fans" like you with a narrow vision of SF that are the reason that SGU and others of it's ilk are being canceled.

Yeah your right,:rolleyes: I guess 50% of SGUs episodes werent boring tripe like this , the rest of the community watched it in their droves and why it isnt cancelled..... oh wait a min... YOUR FREAKING WRONG. Episodes like this have been proven to get terrible reviews, ratings and caused fans to stop watching / stations to drop the show but then I guess the entire community who have turned away from the show and the CEO's of Sci fy are wrong and your totally right, gosh , please show us the way to be more like you!! lol:rolleyes:

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

But it's OK. Transformers 3 is coming out with plenty of pew pew moments (in more ways than one) in it to keep ya happy

I guess you didnt even read what I wrote, or at least thats the only plausible explanation for your ignorant reaction. Let me summarize for you....




Any cool cg shots? Where are the fight scenes? Where are the space battles? Where are the cool alien weapons? Where is the sex appeal?.... All THESE things are basic requirements for good sci fi.

Now what recent sci fi show constantly included all the above as the BASICS of all good sci fi should. Hmmmmm?????

Any cool cg shots


Where are the fight scenes



Where are the space battles



Where are the cool alien weapons



Where is the sex appeal


Well I guess having all these BASICS consistently didnt help that show become one of the longest concurrently running sci fi series of all time?

(Bear in mind I highlight the word basic as some dont seem to understand that basic means a building bock, as in something to base good writing upon. some folk just want to lunge upon posts with egos too big for their observation skills)

Dwaegon

That guy from 3rd rock has no stones

hightower1 wrote: »

Yeah your right,:rolleyes: I guess 50% of SGUs episodes werent boring tripe like this , the rest of the community watched it in their droves and why it isnt cancelled..... oh wait a min... YOUR FREAKING WRONG. Episodes like this have been proven to get terrible reviews, ratings and caused fans to stop watching / stations to drop the show but then I guess the entire community who have turned away from the show and the CEO's of Sci fy are wrong and your totally right, gosh , please show us the way to be more like you!! lol:rolleyes:



I guess you didnt even read what I wrote, or at least thats the only plausible explanation for your ignorant reaction. Let me summarize for you....




Any cool cg shots? Where are the fight scenes? Where are the space battles? Where are the cool alien weapons? Where is the sex appeal?.... All THESE things are basic requirements for good sci fi.

Now what recent sci fi show constantly included all the above as the BASICS of all good sci fi should. Hmmmmm?????

Any cool cg shots


Where are the fight scenes



Where are the space battles



Where are the cool alien weapons



Where is the sex appeal


Well I guess having all these BASICS consistently didnt help that show become one of the longest concurrently running sci fi series of all time?

(Bear in mind I highlight the word basic as some dont seem to understand that basic means a building bock, as in something to base good writing upon. some folk just want to lunge upon posts with egos too big for their observation skills)

They're from 5 different episodes! Unless you're attempting to reference one of the clip shows:mad:... (true sci fi fan indeed!)

crazyderk

Saucer of milk table for two!!!!!!!
Reeeeooowwwwww

hightower1

Dwaegon wrote: »

They're from 5 different episodes! Unless you're attempting to reference one of the clip shows:mad:... (true sci fi fan indeed!)

WTF???? Are you serious?! The entire post shows that SG1 CONSISTANLY showcased these key sci fi elements of a range of shows... hence the CONSISTANLY part. I am not saying every single episode had every single one of these above elements but had 70%+ in every episode. Good god, point well ant truely missed.

Have a face palm.

Antar Bolaeisk

Rushed

Eye candy does not a good show make.

Even if Universe had all the above chocked into every episode the characters are still dull and boring and the story is still slow as molasses.

By your definition any sci-fi show before '95 or so should be crap because often the budgets couldn't stretch to anything more than sex-appeal (and people back then had weird tastes).

Also, it's ironic that you posted a picture from "Window of Opportunity" which was considered to be one of the best episodes of SG-1 and was mostly a character centered piece with the only bits of obvious cgi being the lightning on that off-world set (which wouldn't have looked amis on the original series of Star Trek) and the gate. It contained none of your other requirements for good Sci-Fi.

helimachoptor

Probably the worst episode for me. It really was pointless.

hightower1

Antar Bolaeisk wrote: »

Eye candy does not a good show make..

Did you read what I wrote at all..... BASIC REQUIREMENTS....hence, not everything a good sci fi shows needs but never the less it does need a consistant level of the componets as a BASIC level. As in the foundation to build on as in not the defining features of good sci fi but the 1st step requirements. Without the components I mentioned on a consistant level what is there to define a sci fi show from a drama only show.... nothing.

Let me try break it down even further... take all the faf from a soap opera like dramatic stories of love triangles, rip offs, fights, bitchyness etc then what are you left with???? A documentary of a few peoples average lives. The if the basic requirements of a genre are not met on a consistant time frame it stops becoming a good addition to the genre itself and becomes something unsuited to what its attempting to become ....... SGU episodes like this.

tallaghtmick

ok the difference with the stargate universe is that in sg1 and sga 90% of planets are colonised by ex human slaves,with sgu in a completley different universe therefore less interaction and "action".This isnt the star trek universe where every episode a new race is there to rabble with so thats why they have these kind of stories which i enjoy.

Antar Bolaeisk

Rushed

hightower1 wrote: »

Did you read what I wrote at all..... BASIC REQUIREMENTS....hence, not everything a good sci fi shows needs but never the less it does need a consistant level of the componets as a BASIC level.

What you have listed for sci-fi;

hightower1 wrote:

Any cool cg shots? Where are the fight scenes? Where are the space battles? Where are the cool alien weapons? Where is the sex appeal?.... All THESE things are basic requirements for good sci fi.

are not prerequisites for the genre, let alone good sci-fi. Science fiction by definition deals with fictitious scenarios based on supposition and speculation of advancement in a wide spread of areas such as technology, science and society. Scientifically plausible settings or stories are the hallmark of sci-fi.

For example, "Frankenstein" is science fiction but has none of your "basic requirements" yet Star Wars has all of them but is more fantasy fiction than science fiction since most, if not all of it is scientifically implausible.

hightower1

Antar Bolaeisk wrote: »

What you have listed for sci-fi;



are not prerequisites for the genre, let alone good sci-fi. Science fiction by definition deals with fictitious scenarios based on supposition and speculation of advancement in a wide spread of areas such as technology, science and society. Scientifically plausible settings or stories are the hallmark of sci-fi..

Urgh.... before anyone else posts will they f**king read what is written.... these are basic requirements for GOOD sci fi. Name any sci fi show of note that didnt have all of these on a consistant basis.

Alien tech / weapons - battle scenes - sex appeal etc.

Go on, name just one.

Antar Bolaeisk wrote: »

For example, "Frankenstein" is science fiction but has none of your "basic requirements" yet Star Wars has all of them but is more fantasy fiction than science fiction since most, if not all of it is scientifically implausible.

Wrong on both accounts.



Frankenstein is gothic horror, not sci fi.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109836/

Star wars is not classefied as being sci fi simply because it deals with fantasy archetypes such as knights and princesses. It didnt take the route of going into scientific merits of its based tech but the world itself was based on tech of one form or another.

There is no where in my posts that state if a program has all the sci fi basics that it canonly be sci fi, I do state that sci fi itself should have all these to begin with.

Star wars being an example of that, while it has all the basic sci fi ingredients the fact that it uses the fantasy genre structure is its DEFINING point which overrides the sci fi elements. If Star wars didnt use terms such as knights / princesses then it would be re classefied as sci fi seeing as its one defining fantasy feature has been removed.

....meh!

hightower1 wrote: »

Urgh.... before anyone else posts will they f**king read what is written.... these are basic requirements for GOOD sci fi. Name any sci fi show of note that didnt have all of these on a consistant basis.

Alien tech / weapons - battle scenes - sex appeal etc.

Go on, name just one.

Fringe, Heroes, Quantum Leap.....

Antar Bolaeisk

Rushed

...Firefly, Seaquest DSV, The Outer Limits, The Twilight Zone...

Also, Frankenstein is horror but it is science fiction as well, in fact one of the earliest examples of science fiction.

TheIrishGrover

Rushed

Lost, Bionic Man, The Incredible Hulk, The Prisoner....

I know where you're coming from. But you're limiting Sci-Fi to space opera: Full of Buck Rogers style derring-do: Lasers and spaceships and all that. But that's only one small part of Sci-Fi genre. Philip K Dick is one of the most influential Sci-Fi authors of all time and the majority of his later stories revolved around alternate reatities/alternate histories. His most famous books is Man In The High Castle about an alternate Earth where the Axes won WWII. No lasers, no sex appeal. One mention about the Nazis going to Mars but still Sci-Fi.

tallaghtmick

round the twist:pac:

FreudianSlippers

McKay

It was ok... much better than some of the other recent episodes tbh.

off.the.walls

Rushed

This episode was awful the amount of action that they could of included in it...character growth was kept to the bare min and even at the end you could see camile was no closer to getting greer to talk about his feelings... this show does just not have what atlantis and sg1 had and its just getting more and more disappointing!! Every promo makes the episode look packed full of action and then every episode is utter ****e and slow and boring!

Conor108

Rushed

Quote of the week -

Chloe : "We gate to other planets all the time" :rolleyes:

I thought it was ok, I like Greer! Nice little character moment for him at the very end. Wrays a little annoying.

Next weeks looks awesome anyway!

Chloe's body is taken over by the mind of someone the crew believed was dead. Meanwhile, Dr. Volker is striken with an illness that threatens his life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIK_hAIKRbA

Also, can't take credit for this but some genius on the youtube comments section -

Eli will get to have sex with Ginn in Chloe's body. two birds with one stone

Dwaegon

That guy from 3rd rock has no stones

Conor108 wrote: »

Quote of the week -

Chloe : "We gate to other planets all the time" :rolleyes:

I thought it was ok, I like Greer! Nice little character moment for him at the very end. Wrays a little annoying.

Next weeks looks awesome anyway!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIK_hAIKRbA

Also, can't take credit for this but some genius on the youtube comments section -

Eli will get to have sex with Ginn in Chloe's body. two birds with one stone

Dude! Spoilers in that damn quote box!:mad: