Youths Rugby

muscleshirt

ormond lad wrote: »

My brother was at the trial. There was a game with 3 periods of 30 minutes to account for over 100 lads at the trial.
Anyone who is in school can play,age doesnt matter

that was a big turn out? could be a very good side this year
wonder who is the coach this year,last year they had eoin cahill the shannon snr back coach he did a brilliant job with them

ormond lad

muscleshirt wrote: »

that was a big turn out? could be a very good side this year
wonder who is the coach this year,last year they had eoin cahill the shannon snr back coach he did a brilliant job with them

brother didnt think cahill was there, he doesnt know him so he could have been there. Ed Daly one of the branch development officers was there.
There was plenty of lads from all the B schools: Bandon Gram, Midleton Coll, Newtown School and lads from clubs from all over the province

Omvad

ormond lad wrote: »

Omvad wrote: »

Sorry for being so late with this post but how dud clon u17 s lose to bruff by so much when they were unlucky to beat highfield what player were they missing

I dont know if they were missing players but from what ive heard, Bruffs u17s are huge with 2 or 3 of their forwards well over 6 feet tall and physically monstrous) and Bruff backboned a strong north u17 squad that did well in the regional games that decide this septembers munster youths.

Just checked it out there clon were missing two of there munster youths players 8&9 there nine is suppose to be a class act but clon had 5 on the south munster starting 15 who hammered the north in the final but bruff do have a great squad saw them play against waterpark but I fear they could be getting over confident

ormond lad

Omvad wrote: »

Just checked it out there clon were missing two of there munster youths players 8&9 there nine is suppose to be a class act but clon had 5 on the south munster starting 15 who hammered the north in the final but bruff do have a great squad saw them play against waterpark but I fear they could be getting over confident

There is no final in the u17 dev games. they just play 3 games.
The north team was mostly made up of bruff players and bruff are 1 of the biggest 17s teams ive ever seen and the north u17 dev squad this season beat all opposition.
I dont think how exactly you could say they are getting over confident? Where has there been posts "bigging up" bruff, ive said in posts from what ive heard the bruff 17s are a very big side for u17 and itll take a good side to beat them.

Omvad

ormond lad wrote: »

Omvad wrote: »

Just checked it out there clon were missing two of there munster youths players 8&9 there nine is suppose to be a class act but clon had 5 on the south munster starting 15 who hammered the north in the final but bruff do have a great squad saw them play against waterpark but I fear they could be getting over confident

There is no final in the u17 dev games. they just play 3 games.
The north team was mostly made up of bruff players and bruff are 1 of the biggest 17s teams ive ever seen and the north u17 dev squad this season beat all opposition.
I dont think how exactly you could say they are getting over confident? Where has there been posts "bigging up" bruff, ive said in posts from what ive heard the bruff 17s are a very big side for u17 and itll take a good side to beat them.

Yes I mean it was just the final game ! Yes they have a Hugh pack they are at the moment the team to beat ! No the north lost to the south 4 tries to 1 ! Well I have a friend from bruff and he was saying that they think thele win the munster apparently that squad of players are undefeated in 2 years. I saw clon play highfield and highfield play sundayswell and I don't think either team are capable of beating bruff highfield have to small a pack ! But kanturk I haven't seen them play but heard they have a quick pair of centres

ormond lad

Omvad wrote: »

Yes I mean it was just the final game ! Yes they have a Hugh pack they are at the moment the team to beat ! No the north lost to the south 4 tries to 1 ! Well I have a friend from bruff and he was saying that they think thele win the munster apparently that squad of players are undefeated in 2 years. I saw clon play highfield and highfield play sundayswell and I don't think either team are capable of beating bruff highfield have to small a pack ! But kanturk I haven't seen them play but heard they have a quick pair of centres

The north may have lost to the south but if bruff provided most of the north team then they are very strong.
they are a strong team, i saw a few minutes of 1 game a while ago and a few friends have seen them play a few times and theyve been quite strong each time

Kanturk will most definately have a good pair of centres going by the kanturk teams ive seen underage the past few seasons. some of the best backlines ive seen underage, very good set of backs that you wont want to give a lot of ball to

ormond lad

19s Munster semi between Garryowen and Bandon in Dooradoyle at 1.30pm on Sunday. think Bandon will win, but its a Munster semi and they are away from home so you never know

Presume the Highfield Shannon game is scheduled for Saturday??

muscleshirt

ormond lad wrote: »

19s Munster semi between Garryowen and Bandon in Dooradoyle at 1.30pm on Sunday. think Bandon will win, but its a Munster semi and they are away from home so you never know

Presume the Highfield Shannon game is scheduled for Saturday??

highfield/shannon down for 11.15am sat

ormond lad

Cadet Training Programme
29 February 2012, 11:36 am
By The Editor

The East Munster and North Munster Cadets recently took part in a training programme held in Collegeland, Tipperary Town.


The prgramme comprised of an hour long integrated skills session, followed by a highly competitive game between the two sides. The Munster Cadet selection processes will continue throughout the province over the coming months with a finalised squad to be confirmed for April 2012.
Selected players will then attend a ten week summer programme as part of Munster Rugby’s long term player development pathway.
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/10180.php

ormond lad

ormond lad wrote: »

19s Munster semi between Garryowen and Bandon in Dooradoyle at 1.30pm on Sunday. think Bandon will win, but its a Munster semi and they are away from home so you never know

the Highfield Shannon game is scheduled for Saturday in Woodleigh Park Cork with kickoff at 11.15am

Thought id BUMP this.
Anyone in limerick or cork who has nothing to do saturday morning or sunday afternoon should make it their business to attend either of these games that look set to be cracking contests between 4 quality sides. Their will be dozens of interpros between 18s and 19s in these 2 games and all 4 sides will have played 10+ league games to reach this stage. Everything to play for and any of the 4 sides could be lining out in the final in musgrave park in a couple of weeks time

The 17s semi finals are also scheduled for this weekend- both are due to be played on saturday.
Kanturk host Highfield in Kanturk at 12 and Sundays Well host Bruff in Musgrave Park at 1pm

4 very good games that will feature plenty of current and future munster and irish underage representatives and hopefully some players who will be turning out for the pro side down the line

muscleshirt

ormond lad wrote: »

Thought id BUMP this.
Anyone in limerick or cork who has nothing to do saturday morning or sunday afternoon should make it their business to attend either of these games that look set to be cracking contests between 4 quality sides. Their will be dozens of interpros between 18s and 19s in these 2 games and all 4 sides will have played 10+ league games to reach this stage. Everything to play for and any of the 4 sides could be lining out in the final in musgrave park in a couple of weeks time

The 17s semi finals are also scheduled for this weekend- both are due to be played on saturday.
Kanturk host Highfield in Kanturk at 12 and Sundays Well host Bruff in Musgrave Park at 1pm

4 very good games that will feature plenty of current and future munster and irish underage representatives and hopefully some players who will be turning out for the pro side down the line

any idea when the finals are down for?

ormond lad

muscleshirt wrote: »

any idea when the finals are down for?

I would guess paddys weekend or the weekend after paddys day

muscleshirt

no preview of the club semis on the dead site..all schools..the usual

ormond lad

muscleshirt wrote: »

no preview of the club semis on the dead site..all schools..the usual

The Youths Committee have to send the info in for info to go up onto the site as the branch staff who run the website wouldnt have all the info required to do a report, and as the Munster Youths Committee doesnt have a PRO, it can lead to some big youths games not getting a preview like the schools games get

rugby_fan

U19 Leinster Premier league final taking place tomorrow in Naas at 3 p.m sees R and B Rebels take on Gorey in what is set to be an extremely tough battle with from what I have hear talented players on both sides

ormond lad

rugby_fan wrote: »

U19 Leinster Premier league final taking place tomorrow in Naas at 3 p.m sees R and B Rebels take on Gorey in what is set to be an extremely tough battle with from what I have hear talented players on both sides

Cant see Roscrea and Birr winning tbh, can see Gorey winning by a few scores in the end

Catalpa1

U 17 Pan Munster semis tomorrow Kanturk vrs Highfield and Sundays Well vrs Bruff. 4 good teams hard to call. Bruff probably favourites and having got out of jail against Clon Highfield will have to seriously improve to have any chance against Kanturk. Highfield pack relatively small and light but technically good and quick, back line has potential but hasnt quite clicked as yet. From what I hear Kanturk have a big pack and some great backs. It could all come down to the bounce of a ball. Anyway may all those travelling be it from Bruff or from Bishopstown travel safely, lets shout, roar, shake hands afterwards and leave nothing behind.

rugby_fan

Interesting view on Leinster league u19 final Ormond lad..Just wondering what makes you think that?

ormond lad

rugby_fan wrote: »

Interesting view on Leinster league u19 final Ormond lad..Just wondering what makes you think that?

From friends who've seen both teams play and just a thought. Will be close game but i think R&B will just be edged out

muscleshirt

u19 shannon win over highfield ...19...10

Catalpa1

U 17 Kanturk beat Highfield 13 - 11 a reverse of the Clon match for Highfield, they had lots of the ball but great tackling by Kanturk a few bad bounces of the ball and a few odd refereeing calls (but we all think they are odd when they go against us) Definitely one Highfield will feel they left behind but good look to Kanturk in the final

Catalpa1

Rumour NOT CONFIRMED that Bruff were 4 tries up against the Well coming up to half time in the u17 anyone got the final score

muscleshirt

u19 gorey win leinster 19-10

handsaway

Catalpa1 wrote: »

Rumour NOT CONFIRMED that Bruff were 4 tries up against the Well coming up to half time in the u17 anyone got the final score

Bruff won 32-10

ormond lad

Catalpa1 wrote: »

Rumour NOT CONFIRMED that Bruff were 4 tries up against the Well coming up to half time in the u17 anyone got the final score

Results should be up on munster website, or bruffs website/twitter by now

muscleshirt

u19 garryowen/bandon tomorrow p/munster semi-final winners play shannon
shannon did enough today v highfield,having a share of injuries to key players

ormond lad

muscleshirt wrote: »

u19 garryowen/bandon tomorrow p/munster semi-final winners play shannon
shannon did enough today v highfield,having a share of injuries to key players

Bandon won 14-0

muscleshirt

ormond lad wrote: »

Bandon won 14-0

was at the match,well deserved win for bandon very good team

ormond lad

muscleshirt wrote: »

was at the match,well deserved win for bandon very good team

Final will be super game. 2 strong teams.
2 north munster south munster finals to be played in a few weeks in musgrave. Any links to match reports from the weekends games?

BigHeel

muscleshirt wrote: »

u19 gorey win leinster 19-10

A really good game of rugby.
Looking forward to the 17s final next weekend.

rugby_fan

Any stand out players on either side BigHeel?

melpat54

round 4 of the shane horgan cup has been played at cill dara and as north midlands beat south east they are now on equal points with the north east until the final match

muscleshirt

ormond lad wrote: »

Final will be super game. 2 strong teams.
2 north munster south munster finals to be played in a few weeks in musgrave. Any links to match reports from the weekends games?

garryowen had at least 4 irish youth internationals with a few munster lads as well ,bandon i don't think had any rep player but they outplayed g/o on every facet of the game,well drilled,well coached,well done

ormond lad

muscleshirt wrote: »

garryowen had at least 4 irish youth internationals with a few munster lads as well ,bandon i don't think had any rep player but they outplayed g/o on every facet of the game,well drilled,well coached,well done

Madigan, Enright and a few others. Pity none of these lads clubs could field at 19s but at least they have rugby for the season.
Hopefully next year these lads clubs will field at 19s.
Bandon had a few players on south teams(93s,94s) but have a very strong team and are very well coached

ormond lad

Waterpark beat Nenagh in the East Munster u15 League Final on Sunday 14-5. This win on sunday means Waterpark are this seasons champions in the u13/15/17 and u19 East Munster Leagues. This is the first time in East Munster history that this has happened

skip64

ormond lad wrote: »

Waterpark beat Nenagh in the East Munster u15 League Final on Sunday 14-5. This win on sunday means Waterpark are this seasons champions in the u13/15/17 and u19 East Munster Leagues. This is the first time in East Munster history that this has happened

excellent for a Waterford based team.. its a pity some of the other clubs don't have the numbers or may a City in the midst of its surrounding. but lets not take it away from them. a great Club.
note - Dungarvan Under-15's... lost to Waterpark by 3 points...and drew with them in Waterpark. Fethard bet Dungarvan U-15's by 3-points... in my estimates the best Under-15 Rugby game that i saw in the past 12 months. WELL DONE TO ALL... another year over.
Am i still correct in my assumption at the start of the year on Bruff winning the UNDER-17's.

ormond lad

ormond lad wrote: »

Waterpark beat Nenagh in the East Munster u15 League Final on Sunday 14-5. This win on sunday means Waterpark are this seasons champions in the u13/15/17 and u19 East Munster Leagues. This is the first time in East Munster history that this has happened

skip64 wrote: »

excellent for a Waterford based team.. its a pity some of the other clubs don't have the numbers or may a City in the midst of its surrounding. but lets not take it away from them. a great Club.
note - Dungarvan Under-15's... lost to Waterpark by 3 points...and drew with them in Waterpark. Fethard bet Dungarvan U-15's by 3-points... in my estimates the best Under-15 Rugby game that i saw in the past 12 months. WELL DONE TO ALL... another year over.
Am i still correct in my assumption at the start of the year on Bruff winning the UNDER-17's.

Munster branch should be doing everything they can to improve waterford city rfc. City the size of waterford should have at least 2 strong clubs underage.
Year not over yet skip, cups and plates not finished yet.

I think you may be correct on bruff at 17s, i know a few people who've seen them play and they are a fine side with a monstrous pack of forwards and if they are to be beaten it will be a very good side that does beat them

skip64

Agree on the Waterford City ... it is also a fine club but seems to be the poor relation to the Park. Youghal/Dungarvan/City are tying to keep guys playing for another couple of games at Under-19. good game last Saturday...Ballincollig V Youghal . collig put it up to the guys with Youghal coming away 17-10 winners. i had an email with a couple of friends regarding Under-19's ...and numbers. see G/own bet by Bandon...but i have my reservations on the likes of G/own pulling in players from well outside its region and other clubs...

ormond lad

skip64 wrote: »

Agree on the Waterford City ... it is also a fine club but seems to be the poor relation to the Park. Youghal/Dungarvan/City are tying to keep guys playing for another couple of games at Under-19. good game last Saturday...Ballincollig V Youghal . collig put it up to the guys with Youghal coming away 17-10 winners. i had an email with a couple of friends regarding Under-19's ...and numbers. see G/own bet by Bandon...but i have my reservations on the likes of G/own pulling in players from well outside its region and other clubs...

Good to see Dungarvan, Waterford City and Youghal combining to play in the south league when it looked like 3 clubs wouldnt have any more games for their players to play in. Hope next season more clubs can look to their example as well as Shannon-St Marys and combine to ensure the 17/18 years around the province get regular games
Feel the same about Garryowen, when you looked at their 19s they had 3 or 4 munster or irish youths and all of them only joined the club this season. While in some cases some of those players original clubs struggled to field(or didnt at all) if those clubs had their munster/irish youths players they could have used them to help bring in numbers and fielded in their respective leagues
Structure of 19s league should be look at again by the regional and provincial youth committees. But what changes can they make??

skip64

Personally... i think the media needs to cover the club games with the same emphasis it does to the collage games...the rest i need to think about. but i am sure there are way to fix it...and not to have potential drifting by the wayside..

ormond lad

skip64 wrote: »

Personally... i think the media needs to cover the club games with the same emphasis it does to the collage games...the rest i need to think about. but i am sure there are way to fix it...and not to have potential drifting by the wayside..

Dont you mean secondary schools not colleges??
The Munster Youths Committee doesnt have a PRO afaik, and that impacts slightly on their ability to promot the Pan Munster Leagues.
If even just to send the results of games to all the newspapers and to ensure all results are sent in to the munster website on time so players/coaches/parents know who'll theyll be playing next and where and when etc.

While getting newspapers involved should happen, the first thing that needs to be done is ensuring results are sent into the munster website on time as if you look at the fixtures and results some clubs are very slow at sending in results.
A great way to promote the Youths structure in munster/ireland would be to invite all the major rugby journalists to the provincial/all ireland finals as if the likes of thornley/ward/toland etc were there and did reports etc on the games it would be great publicity for the youths structure

skip64

ormond lad wrote: »

Dont you mean secondary schools not colleges??
The Munster Youths Committee doesnt have a PRO afaik, and that impacts slightly on their ability to promot the Pan Munster Leagues.
If even just to send the results of games to all the newspapers and to ensure all results are sent in to the munster website on time so players/coaches/parents know who'll theyll be playing next and where and when etc.

While getting newspapers involved should happen, the first thing that needs to be done is ensuring results are sent into the munster website on time as if you look at the fixtures and results some clubs are very slow at sending in results.
A great way to promote the Youths structure in munster/ireland would be to invite all the major rugby journalists to the provincial/all ireland finals as if the likes of thornley/ward/toland etc were there and did reports etc on the games it would be great publicity for the youths structure

I am always of the opinion... that a great idea should be followed through :-).. I must get on my bike as i have a meeting... good to chat. will follow up later with my thoughts... I am sure there are other great ideas out there that could plant a seed of thought...

clubrug

Clubs like Garryowen, having 3-4 youths representatives do not guarantee results, Bandon were unlucky two years ago and are a fine team. We all know that just because these lads have been representatives, do not make them far superior than good club players, also the fact that these youths have not really had much of a break from rugby maybe for 18 months can affect form also. The kids cannot blamed joining the likes of Garryowen and best of luck to them, but cannot see them go back to their native clubs, especially if they are encouraged lets say to go to college in Limerick. I wonder did any other players from the likes of Charleville or Abbeyfeale or the likes transfer to Garryowen also? I have no beef against that club and in all honesty most clubs would of welcomed those lads with open arms.

Problem with 19s have been there for years and nothing much has been done to address the issue, not easily addressed, but what really annoys me is that from the age of 7-8 we coached lads and seen them develop not only as rugby players but fine young men and with the hope that they may play and enjoy the game for sometime, bring maybe 5-6 players to first and seconds etc yet instead it appears that far too easily they are left to drift away. The majority of kids want to continue playing, enjoy it and play with lads that they may play against in the GAA, but if the club is not successful, what chance have they to keep boys playing. How many clubs can field U21 teams, 19s the new 21s?

Amalgamate clubs, seems to be the way. Think the best way to "promote the Youths structure" is to actually have each and all clubs have a game each weekend, bring province I know.

Ormond Lad, you mentioned Munster A Schools trials, how would I get them to have a look at a maybe 3 of our lads? heard nothing about trials, again feeling neglected, but would have maybe 2 in mind that would be hungry and good enough to make the squad, the other might just be good for his confidence and a experience for him.

ormond lad

clubrug wrote: »

Clubs like Garryowen, having 3-4 youths representatives do not guarantee results, Bandon were unlucky two years ago and are a fine team. We all know that just because these lads have been representatives, do not make them far superior than good club players, also the fact that these youths have not really had much of a break from rugby maybe for 18 months can affect form also. The kids cannot blamed joining the likes of Garryowen and best of luck to them, but cannot see them go back to their native clubs, especially if they are encouraged lets say to go to college in Limerick. I wonder did any other players from the likes of Charleville or Abbeyfeale or the likes transfer to Garryowen also? I have no beef against that club and in all honesty most clubs would of welcomed those lads with open arms.

Problem with 19s have been there for years and nothing much has been done to address the issue, not easily addressed, but what really annoys me is that from the age of 7-8 we coached lads and seen them develop not only as rugby players but fine young men and with the hope that they may play and enjoy the game for sometime, bring maybe 5-6 players to first and seconds etc yet instead it appears that far too easily they are left to drift away. The majority of kids want to continue playing, enjoy it and play with lads that they may play against in the GAA, but if the club is not successful, what chance have they to keep boys playing. How many clubs can field U21 teams, 19s the new 21s?

Amalgamate clubs, seems to be the way. Think the best way to "promote the Youths structure" is to actually have each and all clubs have a game each weekend, bring province I know.

Ormond Lad, you mentioned Munster A Schools trials, how would I get them to have a look at a maybe 3 of our lads? heard nothing about trials, again feeling neglected, but would have maybe 2 in mind that would be hungry and good enough to make the squad, the other might just be good for his confidence and a experience for him.

19s certainly isnt the new 21s
On Garryowen, having 3 or 4 interpro players doesnt guarantee results at all but does help a huge amount as these players will have played at a higher level and generally 1 or 2 players make a huge difference in underage games
You never know about them going back to their original club, depends on their ties to the club
Amalganating clubs is the way to go. In East Munster for example there is 12 clubs and this year at 17s every club fielded seperate teams and at 19s 3 clubs fielded on their own and 8 clubs combined to make up another 4 teams
On the A schools. There is 2 more sessions before an initial squad is picked. The next session is not for a few weeks afaik.
Ed Daly one of the branch development officers was running the session. If you have a branch red book, i think contact details for ed are in it, if not try here which is a way to contact the Munster Domestic Game Department
Dont worry about not hearing about the sessions as most people involved in clubs didnt as most players at the session were from the B schools

muscleshirt

most if not all club and school secretaries were notified about the munster A schools screening

ormond lad

muscleshirt wrote: »

most if not all club and school secretaries were notified about the munster A schools screening

Most certainly were not notified for 1st session as quite a few lads from other clubs in tipp had heard nothing about the 1st session. they will be notified about the 2nd session

muscleshirt

ormond lad wrote: »

Most certainly were not notified for 1st session as quite a few lads from other clubs in tipp had heard nothing about the 1st session. they will be notified about the 2nd session

everyone in west munster were informed,if was up to your community rugby officer in your region to keep the schools and clubs up to speed

clubrug

No secretary at our club or a couple of others notified and was told there was no players from the O' Brien cup schools final. May be their plan to view lads at another screening, hope so.

ormond lad

clubrug wrote: »

No secretary at our club or a couple of others notified and was told there was no players from the O' Brien cup schools final. May be their plan to view lads at another screening, hope so.

Contact the branch or get your youth officer to ask your regional youth committee when the next training sessions are on

ormond lad

Both Munster finals set for paddys day according to munsterrugby. The 17s final is set for a 12pm kick off with the 19s set for a 1.30pm kick off