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A restoration tale (with pics)
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oscarBravo wrote: »
Hopefully it won't end up like this one:
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It's all oscar bravo's fault for posting the above!!! He started it.
He should be banned from this thread now
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On a serious note, look at the positives- nobody was seriously hurt,
- no damage to boat,
- you talked to you neighbours today, and
- you now have a great 'one day when I was restoring my boat' story
Actually, I think the boat was just trying to get out on the water itself!!:P0 -
It's all oscar bravo's fault for posting the above!!! He started it.
He should be banned from this thread now.
I had a slightly disheartening evening on my own boat project, the hole in the side panel is going to be a tougher repair than I'd hoped. I also have to repair the joint between the bottom panel and the midship seat riser.
But, dude: hang in there. I've said it before, Fergal has said it before - rocky patches go with the territory. If it was easy, everyone would be doing it.
Take time out, clear your head. You'll look back someday and laugh, so why wait? Laugh now.
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oscarBravo wrote: »When I saw you'd posted again, I held my breath when I clicked on the thread...! No chainsaw pics, whew.
No oscar, mind you I have been checking out Aldi's specials this coming Thursday!! The cun..eh..I mean boat; seems unharmed. Infact I was impressed at the absolute strength of it after it fell. Not a scratch afaics. All the comments coming in after my post were a bit of an aa meeting.:rolleyes: Lots of positive little wisdoms. Yeah! - they're helpful :cool: (I know, I know, and I'm grateful to all who replied)
Spent the day rebuilding my work table. The legs and upper tabletop laminate are in bits from all the wet. So they are now replaced, re-enforced and slapped with coats of fence preservative. Just got in before the rain, the forecast is berrr-oooooo-tal!
In the mean time I need cheering up, so I'll Soprano up into the wee small hours ands leave you with this gem
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It's taken me 3 sittings just to get through this thread dnme and have to say, it's one of my favourites on boards.ie to date.
The fact the boat took it's tumble in it's stride is a testament to the quality of the work you've done on her to-date so don't get disheartened by it: try think of it as part of the Quality Assurance phase
As someone who can only dream about such a project I've nothing to offer but encouragement: keep her going and consider firing a treatment and sample chapter to a couple of publishers. Something tells me there's a book in this.0 -
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Day 47
This is not an update. It's merely a post to satisfy the do-gooders and various law enforcement agencies that the boat is indeed still alive. I have received many communique's expressing concern as to its welfare, especially considering Aldi's special offer coming up tomorrow.
I can assure you all the boat is fine. Absolutely fine! Infact the boat is resting. I'd go so far as to say it's experiencing a new found piece. Nah there's no need for any photos ........ you trust me don't you?
Meanwhile somewhere in dnme's brain (mouthed in a very stressed hoarse whisper)........ DIE!!! KILL!!! KILL!!! REDRUM! REDRUM! REDRUM! ....... HI HONEY I'M HOME!!!......DIE!!! DIE!!! DIE!!! RRRRREEEEEDDDDD RRRUUUUMMMMMM!!!
Neeahh...the boats fine:rolleyes:
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Oh alright goddamit. But I draw the line at photographing the dam boat holding up the cover of today's Irish Times:D
1. Look at it there:cool: Photo taken 20:00, August 24th 2011. Also note the work I have done on my table. New legs jointed into the table top, braced and preserved. Table is rock solid now. Legs sitting on grp pieces cut from the seat access panel cutouts.
2. Straightened up and pulled about 10ft forward.
3. Tucked in for the night. MoFo!
4. Couldn't let you go without this. Dreaming of the day, even in a rain storm.
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gardoyle27 wrote: »looking good mate, just for yer own sake compare these to photo's
thats some gooooood work my friend!!!
neayesssssss! basically it's taken 4 months to do a bit of sanding. But I appreciate your effort:cool:0 -
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No need for puns:
'Sail Away' - David Gray
'Sailing' - Rod Stewart
'Rock the Boat' - The Hues Corporation (had to look up the band on that one!)
'Sloop John B' - The Beach Boys
'The Voyage ' - Christie Moore
'Drifting' - Jimi Hendrix
'Into the Mystic' - Van Morrison
Not sure if Otis Redding's 'Dock of the Bay' counts as it's more about the dock than the ships but worth a bonus point, surely?
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neyessssss! I'm not so sure! What in gods name have I started?:D
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I've got a theme song for the upcoming tv documentary / book / whatever. For some reason Christry Moores "Ordinary Man" springs to mind.I'm an ordinary man, nothing special nothing grand
I've had to refurbish the boat that I own
I never asked for a lot, I was happy with what I got
Enough to keep my car and my home
Now they say that times are hard and the wind has dealt my cards
They say there's not enough luck to go around
And when the wind did blow, the boat over did go
Tonight i'm going to cut this vessel down
And I'll tear it d-o-w-n
I never missed a day nor went on strike for better pay
For twenty weeks best I could
Now with a coffee and a mouse, it seems so easy to forget
Loyalty through the bad times and through good
And so condemned I stand just an ordinary man
Like thousands beside me in the queue
I watch my darling dog, trying to make the best of life
And God knows what Aldi is going to do
No more epoxy from outside the state
I will have no boat for a mate
And as long as I live, I never will forgive
The wind that stripped me of my dignity and pride, it stripped mebare
it stripped me bare, it stripped me bare
Keep up the good work, the boat will be worth it when its finished. Leave that chainsaw you were talking about with your neighbours.
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LOL - it does sound very much like ours. He's a black lab-collie X and his name is Casper (a real ghost !!!)
I hope the day is as nice and sunny up there as it is promised here.
ValerieR
I think it is very cruel to be forcing this dog to carry the top of an outboard motor round the place. I don't care what "special harness" you had made to help him carry it! The cruelty to animals people should hear of this.
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Day 48
Summer is gone; It’s a thing of the past, a distant grey damp memory. I am acutely aware of this as I struggle to get out to the boat every day. It is a constant battle against heavy showers, high winds and rapidly diminishing daylight. It’s getting to the stage now where there is almost no window of opportunity to do any significant work after tea. I am desperately dependant on September giving me some ray of hope. I need a few dry days, not to mention warmer temperatures.
I’m working on the seating inside the cabin. I had always envisaged this being a simple job. Cut out access panels, then add new batons that doubled up as seat / lid support flanges. Well it turns out it’s a massive, difficult and complex job. I have a knack for doing things the wrong or at least the hard way, and I fear I may have struck again when it comes to these damn seats.
The seating in the cabin has a corrugated finish on the top. I hate it, always did. It’s a nightmare to sand, strip and clean and it looks awful. So I decided to bite the bullet with it. I grinded down the corrugated surface, using the edge of “the bitch” to get into the grooves and the belt sander to remove some of the high spots. That left me with a weakened version of what was already there, stripped of all paint and gelcoat. I then mixed up a few batches of clotted cream and proceeded to fill out the old corrugation. Some of you may think this is a waste of epoxy and you may well be right but I can’t think of another way to preserve these seats and get them flat. I have also spent some time repairing old damage in the seating structure, using small pieces of woven roving glassed in on the inside and filling with clotted cream on the outside.
Now to deal with the seat access panels. Firstly it occurs to me that I may have cut them too big but that’s another story. After cutting out the panels, I was left with old baton profiles underneath that needed to be gouged out carefully thus not damaging the seat. This proved to be one of the most dangerous jobs I have ever done. I cut out all the old stuff using the bitch, in many cases single handed and often blind, kinda hoping for the best. It would often bite into baton timber making it kick violently. I’m way too blaze with that thing. Anyway, old batons are out.
Onward to make new batons. The plan is to cut out plywood surround batons in single pieces. These will support the old seat and provide me a 20mm lip which will support new seat lids. The plywood is measured to butt up to other existing batons under the seating. Once cut, I rounded over the inner edge with a router as this is where arms and limbs will be when in use. I then cut out some pieces of woven roving tape, wetted out all mating surfaces and glassed the tape to the baton using a staple gun to hold it on the underside and the outer edge. Then it was a matter of turning the ply assembly over, adding thin ply shims to act as standoffs and lining the surface with a bed of heavy thick clotted cream packed with glass strands. This is then offered up in under the seat access panel and held in place with pinch clamps.
I have to tell you, all the above jobs are really tricky. I am covered in epoxy as is most of my gear. I have spent hours struggling to get in underneath those seats in seriously restricted access, trying to wetout glass cloth and trying to get it to stick upwards. It’s awful work, usually in rain and cold. It’s so cold that any epoxy I am using is not cured fully next day, still tacky and soft to the sander.
So as you can see, I am doing these seats the hard way. In my head, when I visualised this before cutting the panels out, it all seemed so simple. Turns out, it’s very tricky and using a lot of valuable epoxy. Am I crazy, am I doing this all wrong, tell me if you think so, or if there is a more obvious or better way to do this.
1. Video sets the scene
2. Grinding and sanding the old corrugated grp.
3. After cutting out the access panels, I needed to gouge out the old batons with the grinder. Dangerous stuff!!! I’m lucky to have both hands tonight, I swear to god.
4. Repairing all the small damage areas in the seating. Then starting to fill the old corrugated profile with clotted cream.
5. After curing overnight, the old corrugated profile is filled and more or less flattened. I have also fillited the edge of the seat grp to add strength and stability.
6. Making plywood surround batons. These will sit underneath the seat protruding inwards creating a lip to support seat lids. The lids will be varnish finished 3mm ply with a layer of glass underneath.
7. Glassing in the plywood baton. I glass and staple 2 pieces of woven roving tape all round the underside. Then flip over, staple on standoff shims, add a bed of clotted cream. And then the fun starts. Getting down in under that seat, in the tightest spaces, hardly any access, trying to get cloth to stay up, epoxy everywhere, on everything. Cold, wet, miserable.
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Day 48
6. Making plywood surround batons. These will sit underneath the seat protruding inwards creating a lip to support seat lids. The lids will be varnish finished 3mm ply with a layer of glass underneath.
Glad to see you back hard at it!
Looks good, what would you think of fixing (glue/screw) some more battens underneath the plywood batten you have already added and using the centre off cut of the 12mm plywood as part of the lid construction. i.e. glue the centre off cut of 12mm ply to the 3mm lid. It might strengthen everything up a bit. I'd say if you just lipped the four corners of the existing plywood batten with some 2 by 1 or whatever you have to hand, then the centre off cut of plywood would sit down nicely onto them, it might be necessary to support it in the middle also.0 -
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