Are The Standards Of Entertainment Dropping?

Helix

jackiebaron wrote: »

Can't remember the last time I saw a really great movie

stop going to see crappy movies then?

what youve just done is akin to claiming there is no good music any more because you only hear justin bieber on the radio

theres plenty of good reading, listening and watching available if you actually bother enough to look

so the real question is why are people too lazy to look for high quality products?

bigmouth writes again

Helix wrote: »

so the real question is why are people too lazy to look for high quality products?

far as audio goes, which i only referred to here i've always cherished the '80s underground and its obscene levels of productivity, and originality, but its mostly now either just repeating itself only with a too polished production, which makes it feel mainstream, or saccharine or something.. or just plain non-existant

there was always an alternative to the alternative, but its damn hard to find now.

markesmith

AhSureTisGrand wrote: »

Ye wha?

An appropriate username.

Entertainment has cottoned on to marketing, and high sales are achieved by appealing to the lowest common denominator. Hence Crystal Swing, Rebecca Black, Rihanna, Westlife, Michael Bay movies, tabloid newspapers, Harry Hill, etc.

Nothingbetter2d

UsernameInUse wrote: »

The internet is wonderful - it allows billions of people to spread their talents and their opinions but has this new influx of "talent" discredited the real abilities of the few? I mean, take music for example - the Bob Dylans, Beatles, Eric Claptons, Michael Jacksons and countless others are substituted for Justin Beibers and Rebecca Blacks...wtf?

The same with entertainment in general - everything is gone PG kinda. Now we have crap like X-Factor on every ten minutes and as soon as it ends, Britains Got Talent starts. Then it's on every magazine and newspaper front page..

The standards of entertainment is severely slipping - or are we going backwards in our evolution to the point that anything literally entertains us...

i totally agree...... i'd love to see an new x factor comp where the following rules had to be met before you could enter.

1. Must be able to play a musical instrument competently
2. Must be able to write your own lyrics or chords
3. Must have at least one member in your band able to sing those lyrics.
4. Must have made a cd on their own without professional help (reason for this is so Louis Walsh or Simon Cowell cannot simply assemble a mix match bunch of lads especially for the x factor comp to form yet another boy band)
5. Must have played at least 10 live gigs in public. (reason for this is so Louis Walsh or Simon Cowell cannot simply assemble a mix match bunch of lads especially for the x factor comp to form yet another boy band)

OPENROAD

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

i totally agree...... i'd love to see an new x factor comp where the following rules had to be met before you could enter.

1. Must be able to play a musical instrument competently
2. Must be able to write your own lyrics or chords
3. Must have at least one member in your band able to sing those lyrics.
4. Must have made a cd on their own without professional help
5. Must have played at least 10 live gigs in public.

+1

bigmouth writes again

lets not forget how we won't be able to differentiate which era something came from now on anymore outside what it is, or who it is but its been like that for a number of years now already. particularly in music every sound in the book has been discovered and utilized amidst whats overly polished re-hashes for the most part - there's no real improvements to be made in sound technology or original concept, even subgenre wise, adding to previous ones so this is going to be one well oiled, samey century. the past is mine but the future's yours.. if you want it

anyhow, that's entertainment.

UsernameInUse

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

i totally agree...... i'd love to see an new x factor comp where the following rules had to be met before you could enter.

1. Must be able to play a musical instrument competently
2. Must be able to write your own lyrics or chords
3. Must have at least one member in your band able to sing those lyrics.
4. Must have made a cd on their own without professional help
5. Must have played at least 10 live gigs in public.

Great ideas.

Simple things like this would raise standards tenfold. I hope people can see that such an approach would pay dividends for our species in the long run.

AhSureTisGrand

markesmith wrote: »

An appropriate username.

Entertainment has cottoned on to marketing, and high sales are achieved by appealing to the lowest common denominator. Hence Crystal Swing, Rebecca Black, Rihanna, Westlife, Michael Bay movies, tabloid newspapers, Harry Hill, etc.

This is new is it?

Edit: it's odd that you should mention Rebecca Black and Crystal Swing, seeing as they both shot to fame by accident, with very little marketing, and were largely consumed on a "so-bad-it's-good" basis

In fairness, standards for women are dropping.. Lads still listen to more decent music, get far far more out of the internet and generally don't watch X Factor. On average.

Helix

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

i totally agree...... i'd love to see an new x factor comp where the following rules had to be met before you could enter.

1. Must be able to play a musical instrument competently
2. Must be able to write your own lyrics or chords
3. Must have at least one member in your band able to sing those lyrics.
4. Must have made a cd on their own without professional help (reason for this is so Louis Walsh or Simon Cowell cannot simply assemble a mix match bunch of lads especially for the x factor comp to form yet another boy band)
5. Must have played at least 10 live gigs in public. (reason for this is so Louis Walsh or Simon Cowell cannot simply assemble a mix match bunch of lads especially for the x factor comp to form yet another boy band)

i hope the irony isnt lost on you that in a thread complaining about how bad mainstream tv has gotten, youre making suggestions to make the single biggest offender better in your view.

UsernameInUse

markesmith wrote: »

Rebecca Black

This is what I think of all this crappy new music. Apt end to vid. How the hell did these people become famous? I've more talent in my fingernail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzfQwXEqYaI

AhSureTisGrand

UsernameInUse wrote: »

This is what I think of all this crappy new music. Apt end to vid. How the hell did these people become famous? I've more talent in my fingernail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzfQwXEqYaI

Because they're hilariously bad. The mainstream does have certain standards, you know

Napper Hawkins

No it ****ing doesn't.

gargleblaster

UsernameInUse wrote: »

This is what I think of all this crappy new music. Apt end to vid. How the hell did these people become famous? I've more talent in my fingernail.

because a lot of people enjoy listening to it, either because they think it's hilariously bad or because it just brings them joy in some other way.

once you get your fingernail to entertain as many people, you'll be just as famous!

gargleblaster

Deleted User wrote: »

In fairness, standards for women are dropping.. Lads still listen to more decent music.

:pac:

Killer Wench

I imagine that standards have always been loose. I am absolutely sure that there operas, ballets, etc. that were absolute crap; they just didn't make it through the centuries. Unfortunately, now that nearly everything can be archived through the internet, the crap produced in our lifetime will not disappear through the generations.

AhSureTisGrand

Anyone who thinks that "Fried Egg" is being enjoyed (for the most part) in a sincere manner is lacking a sense of humour