why do northern ireland wear green

tallaghtmick

if someone can clear this up for me and a few mates it would be a great help.We where talking about this and if you think about it theres no real reason why they do,the flag is the same as england with a red hand and crown,they are also british and fly that flag too and mainly protestant so why not orange

the untitled user

Because they are the 'real' Irish football team (or so they say).

tallaghtmick

second question why do italy wear blue :pac:

citytillidie

Why do Germany wear white?

tallaghtmick

citytillidie wrote: »

Why do Germany wear white?

we figured its from the old imperial flag

ballsymchugh

weren't the original irish jerseys blue in any case?

tallaghtmick

ballsymchugh wrote: »

weren't the original irish jerseys blue in any case?

no idea any pics?brb as i google this :pac:

Mr.Crinklewood

Someone must have told them not to wear green.

apoch632

tallaghtmick wrote: »

if someone can clear this up for me and a few mates it would be a great help.We where talking about this and if you think about it theres no real reason why they do,the flag is the same as england with a red hand and crown,they are also british and fly that flag too and mainly protestant so why not orange

IFA predate the FAI.

IFA choose to wear Green back in the day. They haven't changed since.

CantGetNoSleep

Why do Holland wear orange?

apoch632

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

Why do Holland wear orange?

Colour of the Dutch Royal family

Mr.Crinklewood

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

Why do Holland wear orange?

They find it a-peeling?

tallaghtmick

apoch632 wrote: »

IFA predate the FAI.

IFA choose to wear Green back in the day. They haven't changed since.

for what reason did they choose green though?the only thing i can think of is the old green flag with the harp but that was a republican flag

dan1895

My understanding of it is that the IFA were founded to represent the island as a whole and therefore chose green. Similar to the Irish cricket and rugby teams.

As with the Dutch the blue of Italy is the colour of the Royal family.

Have no idea why Germany wear white, opposite of those all black Nazi kits from back in the day.

Lawrence1895

tallaghtmick wrote: »

we figured its from the old imperial flag

It was mainly white and black

But they had green away shirts at some stage (1990s) and nobody knows why

tallaghtmick

Lars1916 wrote: »

It was mainly white and black

But they had green away shirts at some stage (1990s) and nobody knows why

tallaghtmick had one :cool:

WesternZulu

They were the original Irish team that represented the whole island...suppose that's why they wore green from the start.
Bit like how the rugby team have always wore green and they represent the whole island.

Why do they sing God Save the Queen...maybe that's a question for another day...so much for trying to be inclusive.

dan1895

Lars1916 wrote: »

It was mainly white and black

But they had green away shirts at some stage (1990s) and nobody knows why

They were awesome

WesternZulu

Lars1916 wrote: »

It was mainly white and black

But they had green away shirts at some stage (1990s) and nobody knows why

I do!!!

1st team to play Germany after the war was Ireland and they adopted a geen away for the majority of time since then....boooya

mikemac

Lars1916 wrote: »

But they had green away shirts at some stage (1990s) and nobody knows why

They were class,
If I was buying a retro jersey it'd probably be one of those
http://www.oldfootballshirts.com/en/teams/g/germany/old-germany-football-shirts-t271.html

Quite a few stylish options here

ollaetta

WesternZulu wrote: »

I do!!!

1st team to play Germany after the war was Ireland and they adopted a geen away for the majority of time since then....boooya

Ah yeah, but to go back to the original topic whose green was it, ours or the North?

Fr Tod Umptious

WesternZulu wrote: »

I do!!!

1st team to play Germany after the war was Ireland and they adopted a geen away for the majority of time since then....boooya

That is not true,
It has to do with the traditional colours of the region Bonn, the capital of West Germany, is in.

I read it on the Gurdian website a few years back, will find the link another time as I am doing this from the phone

Lawrence1895

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

That is not true,
It has to do with the traditional colours of the region Bonn, the capital of West Germany, is in.

I read it on the Gurdian website a few years back, will find the link another time as I am doing this from the phone

I doubt it, Germany was playing in white long before Bonn became the Capital of (West) Germany

mike65

White is the closest they could get to silver, which is a traditional German colour*













*total guess

Mr. Presentable

tallaghtmick wrote: »

if someone can clear this up for me and a few mates it would be a great help.We where talking about this and if you think about it theres no real reason why they do,the flag is the same as england with a red hand and crown,they are also british and fly that flag too and mainly protestant so why not orange

Because they are Irish and green is the traditional colour thereof.

Mr. Presentable

tallaghtmick wrote: »

second question why do italy wear blue :pac:

Because azure is the colour of the house of Savoy - the royal family, if you will.

UpTheSlashers

WesternZulu wrote: »

I do!!!

1st team to play Germany after the war was Ireland and they adopted a geen away for the majority of time since then....boooya

Why you lie?

http://www.dfb.de/index.php?id=500001&no_cache=1&action=showMatchesByYear&lang=D&liga=Nationalmannschaft&%20%20year=1950&cHash=82c07154a7

KeithAFC

Could be a YCV thing

Boskowski

citytillidie wrote: »

Why do Germany wear white?

'cos when the DFB sprung into life in 1900 Prussia was the dominating state in the Reich. The Prussian king was automatically the German emperor. Prussias colours were White and Black.

After that it was never changed for hysterical reasons.

I looked it up btw, had no idea myself.

Quiz question:
More interestingly, why was the German away shirt Green until recently?

It's got nothing to do with Germany playing Ireland at some stage, that just one of those unfounded myths. Green is simply the colour of the DFB.

JerryHandbag

I thought Kyle Lafferty looked a bit uneasy wearing green alright when walking onto pitch tonight!

Pinturicchio

tallaghtmick wrote: »

second question why do italy wear blue :pac:

It's the colour of the House of Savoy.

newballsplease

USA should wear Blood on theirs

Paul4As

Green and white army!!!

_blank_

I can't believe people are still peddling that myth about Germany and the green jersey :rolleyes:

Anyway, yeah, the IFA is the "original" Football Association for Ireland, the FAI is the breakaway.

Zebra3

ballsymchugh wrote: »

weren't the original irish jerseys blue in any case?

That is correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Patrick's_blue#cite_note-21

The Ireland association football team organised by the Irish Football Association (IFA) wore St Patrick's blue jerseys from 1882 until 1931, when they switched to green.[22] The IFA team is now the Northern Ireland team. The Football Association of Ireland sent an Irish Free State team to the 1924 Olympic football tournament; it wore a St Patrick's Blue change strip against Bulgaria, whose strip was Ireland's usual green.[23]

th3 s1aught3r

tallaghtmick wrote: »

if someone can clear this up for me and a few mates it would be a great help.We where talking about this and if you think about it theres no real reason why they do,the flag is the same as england with a red hand and crown,they are also british and fly that flag too and mainly protestant so why not orange

It doesnt matter what they wear, their ****e

Panthro

Because Ulster says No!...to other colours

Nailz

papagormo wrote: »

Because Ulster says No!...to other colours

Haha! Yeah, "Ulster". Those phrases always give me a good chuckle.

I don't mind all that shit but what does bug me is calling Northern Ireland "Ulster", I'm from Ulster, but I'm not from NI. There's 9 counties, not only 6. Go figure.

Also, can anyone explain why Japan wear blue? Serious question. And if one of you idiots decide to turn that into an obvious joke I'll hunt you down.

Stoner

dan1895 wrote: »

My understanding of it is that the IFA were founded to represent the island as a whole and therefore chose green. Similar to the Irish cricket and rugby teams.

So setting up the FAI was a step back so? maybe? well compared to the Rugby lads anyway, the rifts possibly grew and grew since the split.

the untitled user

Stoner wrote: »

So setting up the FAI was a step back so? maybe? well compared to the Rugby lads anyway, the rifts possibly grew and grew since the split.

A step back in one sense, but considering the level of sectarianism in the IFA then (and indeed now) it may have been the best thing to do.

tallaghtmick

Nailz wrote: »

Also, can anyone explain why Japan wear blue? Serious question. And if one of you idiots decide to turn that into an obvious joke I'll hunt you down.

quick someone crack a joke......http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/01/39/39583901/photos/-Submit-Your-Own-Photos/arch%20is%20internet%20tough%20guy.png

Nailz

tallaghtmick wrote: »

quick someone crack a joke......http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/01/39/39583901/photos/-Submit-Your-Own-Photos/arch%20is%20internet%20tough%20guy.png

Ugh, I prefer not use that hateful rolleyes smiley, thank you very much.

It was meant as a semi-sarcastic rhetorical phrase as if to say "Don't make the obvious joke about it because it's not cool and it'll make you look like a douche". Why must I spell out stuff like this when people can simply use there brains to identify what I mean?

tallaghtmick

Nailz wrote: »

Ugh, I prefer not use that hateful rolleyes smiley, thank you very much.

It was meant as a semi-sarcastic rhetorical phrase as if to say "Don't make the obvious joke about it because it's not cool and it'll make you look like a douche". Why must I spell out stuff like this when people can simply use there brains to identify what I mean?

in the same way i have to spell out that i was using humour

Paul4As

the untitled user wrote: »

A step back in one sense, but considering the level of sectarianism in the IFA then (and indeed now) it may have been the best thing to do.

The IFA as an organisation aint sectarian...with their Football For All Project they target people from all sides of the community...and from what I hear in the last 5 years or so they are doing an excellent job!!!
It is a shame though that FAI are trying to disrupt that good work a bit by stealing our players!!! Players who have no family connections to the Republic!!!

citytillidie

Paul4As wrote: »

The IFA as an organisation aint sectarian...with their Football For All Project they target people from all sides of the community...and from what I hear in the last 5 years or so they are doing an excellent job!!!
It is a shame though that FAI are trying to disrupt that good work a bit by stealing our players!!! Players who have no family connections to the Republic!!!

Family connections don't have to come into it in Northern Ireland as you can have either passport.

UpTheSlashers

Nailz wrote: »

Haha! Yeah, "Ulster". Those phrases always give me a good chuckle.

I don't mind all that shit but what does bug me is calling Northern Ireland "Ulster", I'm from Ulster, but I'm not from NI. There's 9 counties, not only 6. Go figure.

Also, can anyone explain why Japan wear blue? Serious question. And if one of you idiots decide to turn that into an obvious joke I'll hunt you down.

I presume its something to do with the royal family or something traditional

the untitled user

Paul4As wrote: »

The IFA as an organisation aint sectarian...with their Football For All Project they target people from all sides of the community...and from what I hear in the last 5 years or so they are doing an excellent job!!!

Fair enough, maybe they've changed things around recently. But I remember as a kid growing up in Donegal going to a few school football events in NI and being told not to say where we from, so you might forgive my bias. We were never made to feel welcome playing in NI (late 90s mind).

Paul4As wrote: »

It is a shame though that FAI are trying to disrupt that good work a bit by stealing our players!!! Players who have no family connections to the Republic!!!

Yeah, but then isn't international football supposed to be about national pride and patriotism? Would you really rather have players who don't identify with your country forced to play for ye?

WesternZulu

Paul4As wrote: »

The IFA as an organisation aint sectarian...with their Football For All Project they target people from all sides of the community...and from what I hear in the last 5 years or so they are doing an excellent job!!!

I think that having God Save the Queen as the national anthem is a something that alienates the Nationalist community.
If the IFA were serious about inclusion and their "Football for All" project then perhaps having an anthem that is so associated with one side of the divide is something to look at.

http://www.u.tv/articles/article.aspx?cat=Sport&guid=2290938e-0fe0-4ed7-8a26-cf0639432abc

The link above is from 2006 where the IFA tried to make all players that represented the North carry British passports when playing abroad...hardy the work of an organisation who are trying their up-most to include both communities.

Hardly surprising when players choose to play for the Republic then when IFA are making it tough for players who are from the Nationalist/Catholic/ whatever you want to call it community to feel any connection with the Northern Ireland football team.

losthorizon

tallaghtmick wrote: »

second question why do italy wear blue :pac:

Colour of the Italian royal family I think - or somethink like that.

Paul4As

WesternZulu wrote: »

I think that having God Save the Queen as the national anthem is a something that alienates the Nationalist community.
If the IFA were serious about inclusion and their "Football for All" project then perhaps having an anthem that is so associated with one side of the divide is something to look at.

http://www.u.tv/articles/article.aspx?cat=Sport&guid=2290938e-0fe0-4ed7-8a26-cf0639432abc

The link above is from 2006 where the IFA tried to make all players that represented the North carry British passports when playing abroad...hardy the work of an organisation who are trying their up-most to include both communities.

Hardly surprising when players choose to play for the Republic then when IFA are making it tough for players who are from the Nationalist/Catholic/ whatever you want to call it community to feel any connection with the Northern Ireland football team.

I think you will find if you read the FIFA article from UTV it was FIFA and not the Irish FA who were attempting to make all Northern Ireland players carry British passports! Thankfully this is not what happens though!!! Northern Ireland welcome both Irish and British passport holders to play for us!!!
As for the Irish FA making it tough for catholics to play for Northern Ireland...you're having a laugh with that statement!!! I don't really care about the religion of the players of the current Northern Ireland, but I'd guess a few players with Irish passports play for us!!! They all get the same support from the IFA and supporters!
I would be one for having a separate Northern Ireland fooball anthem...and maybe when games are played in Belfast both God Save the Queen and this new anthem played...similar to what they do in Dublin for rugby...where they play the Irish national anthem and then Ireland's Calling which was to make Ulster's protestant players feel more inclusive. That would be a start!

partyndbs

newballsplease wrote: »

USA should wear Blood on theirs

:rolleyes: