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Thinking of getting dog put down

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  • #32
    ppink
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    pm. wrote: »
    my child was out the back with my other son and my wife was in the kitchen looking out..... I have said in my last 3 posts that i would like to get some obeisance training done but dont know where to go....... the dog is 8 and a half months. Why are German Shepards the wrong dog for small children ?? they are suppose to be a very loyal dog to their family and great around kids, some advice I read from here as well as other sites.

    German sheps are fab dogs, you are right. They are very much known as one person dogs though so this is why you need to do a bit of reading and be sure you socialise and set the boundaries with you and your family.

    what training collar did you get?

    just another thing about the walks. puppies are supposed to walk I htink it is 5 mins per month of age (someone correct me if thats wrong). I am only sayign this as people automatically say exercise the dog but be careful of doing too much or you will end up with bad health issues.


  • #33
    pm.
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    talkin wrote: »
    you'l get a lot out of the dog if u give him a lot but he played and you want to put him down instead of training him. do you walk him or be around him yourself or do you just leave him out the back

    Please read my last posts....
    omen80 wrote: »
    I said you were an ignoramous. You just keep proving my point!



    Well if what you say is true we wouldn't be having this conversation would we???

    Its not the first time I have been told that they are suited for children.


  • #34
    talkin
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    pm. wrote: »
    I also have a 10 year old lab so the kids are well used to dogs, I did a good bit of research before i got the dog and found that they are really good with kids. i only had the dog 1 week and got him neutered ( 6 weeks ago ) I bring him on a good 2 mile walk every day so he gets exercise.As I said the last thing i want to do is have him put down.... would obeisance training help ? who do I go to live in Mullingar had a look but couldn't find any where local
    sorry i actually didnt see this post. just seemed shocking ud think of even putting a puppy down


  • #35
    andreac
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    omen80 wrote: »
    I said you were an ignoramous. You just keep proving my point!



    Well if what you say is true we wouldn't be having this conversation would we???

    Huh??
    You are the one who is ignorant with your attitude about dog breeds and saying he was asking for trouble just because it was a german shepherd.

    The only one who is to blame for these problems are the owner, not the dog.

    You obviously dont know much about breeds like shepherds, if you are going to make a statement like you did in your other post.


  • #36
    Shanao
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    Hold on a second people, can all the posters who are calling the OP ignorant and so on please consider the fact that the OP had his child's head in a dog's mouth and was injured? Of course its something that would make a parent panic, so lets give some help rather than just criticise.

    Op- like the others said, your best bet is to get onto a behaviourist. German Sheps are amazing dogs, but they can be very boisterous as puppies, which they are until at least two years old. It was playbiting so its something that needs to be corrected. You need to contact a behaviourist; he/she will show you how to teach the dog just where its role is in the family. Jenny, as Andreac suggested, would be a good one to contact for a start.


    Also Omen, what exactly have you got against German Shepherds? They are amazing dog and brilliant with kids. By suggesting anything otherwise, you are just proving your ignorance of a fantastic breed.


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  • #37
    RubyGirl
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    andreac wrote: »
    No need to shout.

    Contact Jenny at:
    http://www.k9trainingservices.com/
    Shes based in Westmeath and i highly recommend her.

    +1 on above. Where did u get dog from, any chance of returning her?

    If you go down the rehome route, maybe get the help of a rescue.
    http://www.celticanimallifeline.com/


  • #38
    omen80
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    andreac wrote: »
    Huh??
    You are the one who is ignorant with your attitude about dog breeds and saying he was asking for trouble just because it was a german shepherd.

    The only one who is to blame for these problems are the owner, not the dog.

    You obviously dont know much about breeds like shepherds, if you are going to make a statement like you did in your other post.

    Eh, I think you'll find I said that it wasn't the dog's fault in my original post???


  • #39
    andreac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    omen80 wrote: »
    Eh, I think you'll find I said that it wasn't the dog's fault in my original post???

    But you said he was asking for trouble because of the breed he got, thats what i have a problem with you for, nothing else and you still havent commented on that...


  • #40
    omen80
    Registered Users Posts: 639 ✭✭✭omen80


    Shanao wrote: »
    Also Omen, what exactly have you got against German Shepherds? They are amazing dog and brilliant with kids. By suggesting anything otherwise, you are just proving your ignorance of a fantastic breed.

    I don't recall saying that I had anything against German Shepards. I actually had one in the past. Wtf is your point??

    And just in case you think it was me calling the OP ignorant, it wasn't.


  • #41
    andreac
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    omen80 wrote: »
    I have to ask the obvious and wonder why you got a german shepard with two small children in the house? They may not be aggressive but you were looking for trouble there really.Don't put the dog down, it's not its fault. Try to get someone else to look after it.

    You posted it, so theres obviously a reason for saying it or else why would you have posted it??


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  • #42
    omen80
    Registered Users Posts: 639 ✭✭✭omen80


    andreac wrote: »
    But you said he was asking for trouble because of the breed he got, thats what i have a problem with you for, nothing else and you still havent commented on that...

    As you stated yourself, dogs can do a lot of damage play biting. The OP has kids of 3 and 6 years of age. You would have to constantly watch them out playing with a german shepard.


  • #43
    ISDW
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    omen80 wrote: »
    As you stated yourself, dogs can do a lot of damage play biting. The OP has kids of 3 and 6 years of age. You would have to constantly watch them out playing with a german shepard.

    Why more so than any other breed? You just said, DOGS can do a lot of damage, so why then come back and make a big deal out of the fact that its a GSD?


  • #44
    omen80
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    andreac wrote: »
    You posted it, so theres obviously a reason for saying it or else why would you have posted it??

    I don't even know what the hell you're asking me here? I posted what?


  • #45
    Emma1980
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭Emma1980


    ah here folks, stop all this - the OP has asked for help, we've all made our points of whether he should have gotten the dog or not but it's not helping him - has anyone got any proper advise for him as to where he can take the dog for training and obediance???


  • #46
    andreac
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    omen80 wrote: »
    As you stated yourself, dogs can do a lot of damage play biting. The OP has kids of 3 and 6 years of age. You would have to constantly watch them out playing with a german shepard.

    That goes for any breed, large or small, not just because its a German Shepherd, so you cant just say that because of its breed you have to be more vigilant or you are asking for trouble.
    All dogs play bite, big and small but breed doesnt come into it all.


  • #47
    omen80
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    ISDW wrote: »
    Why more so than any other breed? You just said, DOGS can do a lot of damage, so why then come back and make a big deal out of the fact that its a GSD?

    Big playful dog. Read the OP's first post.


  • #48
    moving_home
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    omen80 wrote: »
    As you stated yourself, dogs can do a lot of damage play biting. The OP has kids of 3 and 6 years of age. You would have to constantly watch them out playing with a german shepard.

    No breed of dog should ever be left alone with kids of this age IMO. the fact that it is a GS is irrelevant.

    I know of an 8 yr old girl attacked by a lab that the family had for years, it was on a trampoline with the kids and got spooked by something during thundery weather and ended up bitting the little girls face.
    I have a cocker spaniel which is not a big dog nor on the RB list but i would never leave her alone with any kids.


  • #49
    andreac
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    Emma1980 wrote: »
    ah here folks, stop all this - the OP has asked for help, we've all made our points of whether he should have gotten the dog or not but it's not helping him - has anyone got any proper advise for him as to where he can take the dog for training and obediance???


    Yes, we have already done that.


  • #50
    RubyGirl
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    ISDW wrote: »
    Why more so than any other breed? You just said, DOGS can do a lot of damage, so why then come back and make a big deal out of the fact that its a GSD?

    Agree, any dog should not be left alone with with children of any age. You guys are not helping OP here(not u ISDW).


  • #51
    omen80
    Registered Users Posts: 639 ✭✭✭omen80


    andreac wrote: »
    All dogs play bite, big and small but breed doesnt come into it all.

    Actually it does, some breeds are inherintely more playful or aggressive than others. It's science.


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  • #52
    ISDW
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    omen80 wrote: »
    Actually it does, some breeds are inherintely more playful or aggressive than others. It's science.

    Sorry OP, this is going off topic.

    Can you please put links up to this science. Thanks.


  • #53
    andreac
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    omen80 wrote: »
    Actually it does, some breeds are inherintely more playful or aggressive than others. It's science.

    Oh dear lord, science, ive heard it all now...:rolleyes:


  • #54
    Galway K9
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    Do not put this dog down, rehome him or ill take him. Give me PM please!


  • #55
    LucyBliss
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    OP, German Shepherds are fantastically loyal dogs. We had one and I will never tire of singing her praises about how good she was. They are incredibly smart dogs and need clear guidance from their owners about what is and isn't acceptable.
    They are also off their heads when they're pups! They haven't a spark half the time. That can lead to some fantastically amusing shenanigans from them but it can be very trying too when you're trying to get them to listen to you. It's all about perseverance and not giving up because they are the kind of dogs who want and need one person to be their 'master' and they look to this person for security, orders and company. They will, of course, behave with the rest of the family but they'll always look to that one person to make sure all's right in the world.

    It's just a pup who really knows no better. Someone needs to step up and show the dog that there are boundaries.
    Get the kids involved too - have them give the dog a treat but the dog has to sit and wait for it. It doesn't matter how old they are, the dog will look at them and think "oh hey, look at this, this little creature is making me think and challenging me in a positive way", and the dog will absolutely respect the kids for it.

    Some simple boundaries and rules like you do with any pup is a great start. It can be very scary to see a GSD getting 'rough' with the kids but this is just a pup. It's like with kids - they need to know what is and isn't appropriate behaviour.
    Best of luck with it!


  • #56
    Emma1980
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭Emma1980


    this is ridiculous, thread should be locked at this stage


  • #57
    omen80
    Registered Users Posts: 639 ✭✭✭omen80


    andreac wrote: »
    Oh dear lord, science, ive heard it all now...:rolleyes:

    Yeah, it is science.....???


  • #58
    tk123
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    Emma1980 wrote: »
    DOG TRAINING IRELAND

    Or check your local vets as they have signs up all the time

    +1 for DTI! The guys are brilliant. Even if you can't get to classes buy a book and start teaching him basic commands.
    At 8 months he should only be having a 40 min walk anyways so training and using his brain will tire him out. I found The Pefect Puppy by Gwen Bailey very good and you could maybe get the kids involved to help them get over any fear.
    Has the pup has much socialization with other pups - I found this helped a lot when my guy was play biting. If he hurt his friend he'd yelp and that was the signal that he was going to far. If you don't have another pup then you'll have to start practicing your yelps lol :pac:
    My guy is a golden retriever and he loves being with us - giving out to him when he's bold doesn't work - he gets attention and loves it so if he's bold we say his bold word (too bad), fold our arms and turn our back - game over. If that doesn't work he goes out of the room for a minute with the door closed behind him.

    My guy is 20 months old now and we do some training every day - I can't believe how good his gotten at his commands. 6 months ago I'd come out of the class mortified every week cos he'd do something mental lol but he's come on so much and all it took was some time and patience...and maybe some hotdogs :pac::pac:


  • #59
    lrushe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭lrushe


    OP, just an after thought there you might want to google Nothing In Life Is Free (NILF), it is an at home method of giving strong willed dogs some boundries, it might help while you are trying to find a good trainer.


  • #60
    andreac
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    omen80 wrote: »
    Yeah, it is science.....???

    Please put up links or a source as to what type of science you are actually talking about.


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  • #61
    omen80
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    andreac wrote: »
    Please put up links or a source as to what type of science you are actually talking about.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_aggression

    Look at the last point for "factors attributing to dog aggression".

    It's common sense that dogs with different genetic makeup would naturally exhibit different qualities.


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