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Advice - Moving to Dublin

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  • 30-03-2011 3:54pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,

    I posted a thread a couple of weeks back but my plans have become a small bit more concrete now (apologies for duplicate threads mods, feel free to merge if you need to).

    Pending on a job interview, I would be most likely working in Eastpoint Business Park, Dublin 3. I am moving up to Dublin in about a month for my new job (if I get it) and know very few people, just a couple of friends, but want to make new friends as soon as possible.

    I would be selling my car as I don't think it's necessary to have one in Dublin.

    Can anyone recommend a good place to live with the above info? Im in my mid 20s and would like somewhere central, to make new friends, but obviously close enough to work to access via public transport. I am aware theres a shuttle to E/Point from the Clontarf Dart station.

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭witchgirl26


    There are a lot of places around Clontarf/Fairview where you could rent which would be handy. It's a nice enough area & there's lots around there, shops etc.
    I don't think that you need to sell your car though. I've lived around that area most of my life and while I've only starting to drive now (mid-20's), it's made a difference to getting places. Public transport can't always be relied upon to go where you want.
    Hope you get the job :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    I'd stick with Bayside.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,852 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    you could stay in D1 or D2 docklands or around D3 itself, you are correct about the shuttle...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭coco_lola


    Well I would be selling my car because I have a loan on it and other outgoings such as insurance/tax/petrol and I feel it would be too expensive to pay off my loan along with my other outgoings.


  • Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭Penguino


    Depending on your budget you are best looking from East Wall to Clontarf.

    East Wall gets some bad press but is a very safe place to live, on street parking and right next to town and East Point Bs Pk


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭coco_lola


    Thanks, yeah I was looking at houses in East wall, rent is reasonable which would mean I could keep my car as I could afford to run it :)

    Do you mind me asking why it gets bad press? PM me if you like.


  • Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭Ortiz


    I'd just stay in Clontarf - Lovely place to live. What's your budget? You looking for somewhere on your own or shared accommodation?

    These places are all very near Eastpoint Business Park and in nice safe locations:

    http://www.myhome.ie/lettings/brochure/danes-court/299909

    http://www.myhome.ie/lettings/brochure/st-lawrence-road-clontarf-dublin-3/1272821

    http://www.myhome.ie/lettings/brochure/st-lawrence-road-clontarf-dublin-3/1272334

    http://www.myhome.ie/lettings/brochure/lawrence-grove-clontarf-dublin-3/1272247

    Anywhere around those areas are lovely places and well serviced by public transport


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭coco_lola


    As its kind of a last minute move, Im trying to stick to a €400pm budget. I was looking at a short term lease, 3-6 months while I save, and if I like it, I could extend the lease. I really want somewhere bright and airy that I look forward to coming home to, as I am moving up on my own and would like a house I like living in.

    I should also mention that it would be a sharing I am looking for, I would like to make new friends and do not have anyone to move in with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭coco_lola


    Hey, just an update - i got the job :) so now need to start looking for a place.. Dont know many up in Dublin so need to make new friends, any ideas?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    Congrats on the job.

    You'll just have to wait to join a few clubs in Dublin to meet people.

    Its easy to meet foreign people like Spanish/Italian/other nationalities etc in Dublin, because they are away from home and in similar position. However if you dont speak Spanish or whatever language they speak you can lose out because then I found they tend to stick together prefering to stick to their own language.

    More difficult to meet Irish people as they busy with their jobs and life and normally more settled. Even friends who have spent all their lives in/from Dublin dont meet people there because people go to work, go home to the girlfriend/boyfriend and stick to that routine. The only friends, my Dublin friends and I, have in Dublin are long term from School/University. People post University tend not to bother making new friends as they stick to previous ones. Also most of my friends who remained in Dublin bought houses and are too skint to go out. So I think it could be a challenge. My friends rent out their house's and all their tenants are from the country and go home to the country at the weekend anyway. For that reason you are better off keeping your car, as you could end up going back to your own town alot to catch up with friends at the weekends.

    Of course not everyone in Dublin has the same experience, but im just letting you know how my experience of living there and my other friends living in Dublin experience has been.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭xkariex


    I'll be in the same boat soon well i hope ! So please keeps updated as to how you get on..

    From reading that last post im really apprehensive about going up there now ! Hopefully its different i think it depends on what kind of person you are ..


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    xkariex wrote: »
    I'll be in the same boat soon well i hope ! So please keeps updated as to how you get on..

    From reading that last post im really apprehensive about going up there now ! Hopefully its different i think it depends on what kind of person you are ..

    Well maybe thats because Im a Dub haha. Seriously I only have friends from school and the "latest" friends I have are from 1998 and 2001 respectively. As in, if your over 20 its extremely hard to meet any new people in Dublin. Ive done the whole Meet up and social groups phase, which is great for a while, but you never really make any friends at those things. Usually people who dont live full time in Dublin and its worse then Erasmus students, they usually gone by 2 months.

    My brother is the same, he only has friends from Secondary school. Even in University (we are talking all Dubs)...they didnt stay in contact. Same in my class at University, because everyone bar one person was from Dublin and went home each evening to whatever surburb you live in. He is not friends with anyone he works with and pretty much there is not a whole lot to do to meet new people after University/Work. (All my friends have had the same experience). His friends from University all moved to Limerick to do a Masters there and they are having a far more fun time then they did at University in Dublin.

    He is only 23 and he has not met any new people to hang around as friends since school. He pretty much now goes to work in Office type job. Works from 9am until 7pm at night at least and because he is young and "new" he has to complete his projects and work longer hours. However you have to factor in the time to commute to work...which in Dublin usually takes 1 hour at least (this is a journey which takes 10 mins by car in the evening but longer in rush hour on public transport). So he leaves at 8am at the latest. You have to give yourself 1 hour if you work in town. If you are commuting from one side to the other side you need about 2 hours to commute no joke. Like my dad has to get up at 6am, leaves house at 6.30am just to start work on time at 8.30am!!! I remember it was the same when I was in University for 4 years...never saw daylight as was getting the 6.30am bus. If you leave it too late, you wont arrive to work until after 10am...hence you usually have to leave the house before 7am just to arrive on time. This alone means people are too shattered by the weekend to even think about meeting up with other people. People might have the gym to fit in, but then thats about it. Its a huge rat race.


    This means that he on average works 12 hours a day from 9am to 9pm...means he gets home at 10pm at night after the commute. Eats dinner at 10pm and then bed to be up the next day to start again. Friday night is the same! Come Saturday when he does have time off he is too shattered to do anything at all. He has turned really grumpy as well because he used to be the type of guy in University to go out all the time. He was the top of his class, got a 1st in his degree and for the first time in his life he is struggling and his company dont seem to be very nice. He doesnt get any pay rise for putting in all this overtime. Also he is on 6 week probation...which i think is a gimmick to make him work harder every 6 weeks. Sure he was on 6 month probation, but now they review that every 6 weeks, so he doesnt know if he will even have a job then. Complete slave driving. My friends from college have pretty much same life, I dont know how people factor in relationships and families as well. My brother doesnt have time for a relationship. Really sad because he is such a young person and seems like there is not much worth living for in his life at the moment.

    Most young/new people he works with are from outside of Dublin, so they all go back to their mammies at the weekend and we are talking every weekend. So he never hangs out with them. Its pretty crap really. Same with my Dub friends who rent out their houses, their tenants all go home every single weekend to meet the boyfriend/girlfriend in another city. Its very difficult to meet anyone in Dublin for a relationship. You try out a few meet ups and speed dating events but give up because people have huge standards. Must have big house, huge salary etc!!! Women and men have mad inflated expectations, and since its a city there is nothing bringing them down to earth either. Not to mention its so expensive going out drinking in Dublin. Get taxi home etc. Most people go to Tesco's and just sit in with a pizza and drinks. Everytime im back, my friends dont even bother going out. This involves me driving to their house (so i cant drink) and then eating pizza and drinking cups of tea.

    And if you are a Dub, you still live at home with mammy and daddy...my friends were 28 before they decided it was time to leave home. This is great in one sense you still hang out with your brothers and sisters. Its bad in another sense because you never really went wild and had mad parties, because your mam is still texting wondering where you are. Ive cousins who are about 35 and still live at home. Went out on dates with quite a few 35 year olds and they have never moved out of home either because rent is mad expensive. This means the Dubs are not really have crazy nights out partying. But also because they all live at home, they have never moved area's, still hang out with friends from school and therefore no drive or need for people to mingle with each other to meet new people. Just leaves the other nationalities and outside Dubs to socialise with.

    All my friends is the same, they went to work for companies where the people were very old. Took about 10 years in the same job before they employed anybody else the same age as them.

    I dont find people friendly in Dublin either...your either a Dub or a blow in. Even if your a Dub, you dont like other Dub's because they are from the North or Southside. If your a blow in, they equally as skeptical about you and cannot understand accents from outside of Dublin.

    I got so fed up with the small minded attitude in Dublin, I left Ireland. Couldnt be doing with the big fish in small pond attitude. No idea why anybody who is not a Dub, would even chose to live in Dublin if your mammy doesnt live there. So many other nicer cities around Ireland like Cork or Galway, Sligo, people far more friendly. My friends have been working in Sligo and they love it there. Most Dub's I know have now moved to Meath or Kildare to get out of the place. My friend from school loves it in Maynooth....she would never dream of living in Dublin again.

    Also it must be really hard as ive heard so many landlords try to rip people off. Heard recently from a Cork friend that the house in Drumcondra he used to live in had 7 people in it. Must be a nightmare sharing with that amount of people.

    Only nice new person I met in Dublin recently was from Galway.

    Im looking for a job in Cork or myself. People far nicer there (and im a Dub). After University I was so pissed off with living in Dublin and wasting my time commuting everywhere. I moved to Cornwall, England, where it took 10 minutes by bicycle to get to work with fresh sea breeze country air to wake you up every morning (not carbon monoxide pollution you get in Dublin). No sitting in traffic for hours on end. People were so lovely. Town only had 5000 people, but I knew more people, practically everyone in the town because it was in middle of no where and it was too far away for people to commute home at the weekends. I made the best friends ever. Compare this to Dublin where I am from and currently only have 3 friends who I know in the county!!! I had the beach on my doorstep and went surfing every weekend. Could go for a hike after work. Just seemed like so much unlimited time in my life to do stuff. Same now in France, im a 10 minute walk from work. I know far more people here again. Just a 2 hour drive to the ski slopes/Spain and 40 minute drive to "sunny" surfers paradise beach. Add in fantastic food and drink...Ive lived a constant holiday since moving out of Dublin. I still go back to Dublin and join meet up clubs, but never meet anyone, find them so close minded. Seriously dont see the fasination about the place, or why someone would want to leave the likes of the beautiful coastline/countryside to live in smelly rude Dublin.

    Thats my experience. I think its a crazy mad life in Dublin of pure rat race. If people actually have a choice, I think living in beautiful area like Kerry and working from an office is idealic. Ive lots of friends who work office jobs in London and the company allows them to work from anywhere in the world (ie from home)...hence they live in France and Spain ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,673 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    coco_lola wrote: »
    Hey, just an update

    Well done!
    Well maybe thats because Im a Dub haha. Seriously I only have friends from school and the "latest" friends I have are from 1998 and 2001 respectively. As in, if your over 20 its extremely hard to meet any new people in Dublin. Ive done the whole Meet up and social groups phase, which is great for a while, but you never really make any friends at those things. Usually people who dont live full time in Dublin and its worse then Erasmus students, they usually gone by 2 months.

    My brother is the same, he only has friends from Secondary school. Even in University (we are talking all Dubs)...they didnt stay in contact. Same in my class at University, because everyone bar one person was from Dublin and went home each evening to whatever surburb you live in. He is not friends with anyone he works with and pretty much there is not a whole lot to do to meet new people after University/Work. (All my friends have had the same experience).

    He is only 23 and he has not met any new people to hang around as friends since school. He pretty much now goes to work in Office type job. Works from 9am until 7pm at night at least and because he is young and "new" he has to complete his projects and work longer hours. However you have to factor in the time to commute to work...which in Dublin usually takes 1 hour at least (this is a journey which takes 10 mins by car in the evening but longer in rush hour on public transport). So he leaves at 8am at the latest. You have to give yourself 1 hour if you work in town. If you are commuting from one side to the other side you need about 2 hours to commute no joke. Like my dad has to get up at 6am, leaves house at 6.30am just to start work on time at 8.30am!!! I remember it was the same when I was in University for 4 years...never saw daylight as was getting the 6.30am bus. If you leave it too late, you wont arrive to work until after 10am...hence you usually have to leave the house before 7am just to arrive on time. This alone means people are too shattered by the weekend to even think about meeting up with other people. People might have the gym to fit in, but then thats about it. Its a huge rat race.


    This means that he on average works 12 hours a day from 9am to 9pm...means he gets home at 10pm at night after the commute. Eats dinner at 10pm and then bed to be up the next day to start again. Friday night is the same! Come Saturday when he does have time off he is too shattered to do anything at all. He has turned really grumpy as well because he used to be the type of guy in University to go out all the time. He was the top of his class, got a 1st in his degree and for the first time in his life he is struggling and his company dont seem to be very nice. He doesnt get any pay rise for putting in all this overtime. Also he is on 6 week probation...which i think is a gimmick to make him work harder every 6 weeks. Sure he was on 6 month probation, but now they review that every 6 weeks, so he doesnt know if he will even have a job then. Complete slave driving. My friends from college have pretty much same life, I dont know how people factor in relationships and families as well. My brother doesnt have time for a relationship. Really sad because he is such a young person and seems like there is not much worth living for in his life at the moment.

    Most young/new people he works with are from outside of Dublin, so they all go back to their mammies at the weekend and we are talking every weekend. So he never hangs out with them. Its pretty crap really. Same with my Dub friends who rent out their houses, their tenants all go home every single weekend to meet the boyfriend/girlfriend in another city. Its very difficult to meet anyone in Dublin for a relationship. You try out a few meet ups and speed dating events but give up because people have huge standards. Must have big house, huge salary etc!!! Women and men have mad inflated expectations, and since its a city there is nothing bringing them down to earth either.

    And if you are a Dub, you still live at home with mammy and daddy...my friends were 28 before they decided it was time to leave home. This is great in one sense you still hang out with your brothers and sisters. Its bad in another sense because you never really went wild and had mad parties, because your mam is still texting wondering where you are. Ive cousins who are about 35 and still live at home. Went out on dates with quite a few 35 year olds and they have never moved out of home either because rent is mad expensive. This means the Dubs are not really have crazy nights out partying. But also because they all live at home, they have never moved area's, still hang out with friends from school and therefore no drive or need for people to mingle with each other to meet new people. Just leaves the other nationalities and outside Dubs to socialise with.

    All my friends is the same, they went to work for companies where the people were very old. Took about 10 years in the same job before they employed anybody else the same age as them.

    I dont find people friendly in Dublin either...your either a Dub or a blow in. Even if your a Dub, you dont like other Dub's because they are from the North or Southside. If your a blow in, they equally as skeptical about you and cannot understand accents from outside of Dublin.

    I got so fed up with the small minded attitude in Dublin, I left Ireland. Couldnt be doing with the big fish in small pond attitude. No idea why anybody who is not a Dub, would even chose to live in Dublin if your mammy doesnt live there. So many other nicer cities around Ireland like Cork or Galway, Sligo, people far more friendly. My friends have been working in Sligo and they love it there. Most Dub's I know have now moved to Meath or Kildare to get out of the place. My friend from school loves it in Maynooth....she would never dream of living in Dublin again.

    Also it must be really hard as ive heard so many landlords try to rip people off. Heard recently from a Cork friend that the house he used to live in had 7 people in it. Must be a nightmare sharing with that amount of people.

    Only nice new person I met in Dublin recently was from Galway.

    Im looking for a job in Cork or myself. People far nicer there (and im a Dub). After University I was so pissed off with living in Dublin and wasting my time commuting everywhere. I moved to Cornwall, England, where it took 10 minutes by bicycle to get to work. No sitting in traffic for hours on end. People were so lovely. Town only had 5000 people, but I knew more people, practically everyone in the town because it was in middle of no where and it was too far away for people to commute home at the weekends. I made the best friends ever. Compare this to Dublin where I am from and currently only have 3 friends who I know in the county!!! I had the beach on my doorstep and went surfing every weekend. Same now in France, im a 10 minute walk from work. I know far more people here again. Just a 2 hour drive to the ski slopes/Spain and 40 minute drive to "sunny" surfers paradise beach. Add in fantastic food and drink...Ive lived a constant holiday since moving out of Dublin. I still go back to Dublin and join meet up clubs, but never meet anyone, find them so close minded.

    Thats my experience. I think its a crazy mad life in Dublin of pure rat race. If people actually have a choice, I think living in beautiful area like Kerry and working from an office is idealic. Ive lots of friends who work office jobs in London and the company allows them to work from anywhere in the world (ie from home)...hence they live in France and Spain wink.gif

    Ignore all this, classic chip on the shoulder stuff. It's what you make of it. Cracking city, lots of opportunities for fun, friendship etc.

    I'd agree with the advice from others, Clontarf, Raheny, Fairview, East Wall... Good places to live. Good neighbours, good amenities. Make the best of it and enjoy it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 376 ✭✭edwinkane


    There are a lot of places around Clontarf/Fairview where you could rent which would be handy. It's a nice enough area & there's lots around there, shops etc.
    I don't think that you need to sell your car though. I've lived around that area most of my life and while I've only starting to drive now (mid-20's), it's made a difference to getting places. Public transport can't always be relied upon to go where you want.
    Hope you get the job :)

    I'd tend to agree and not sell my car unless I had to. Even doing things like shopping, it's such a bore having to carry bags of shopping home from the supermarket!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Well done!



    Ignore all this, classic chip on the shoulder stuff. It's what you make of it. Cracking city, lots of opportunities for fun, friendship etc.

    I'd agree with the advice from others, Clontarf, Raheny, Fairview, East Wall... Good places to live. Good neighbours, good amenities. Make the best of it and enjoy it.

    Its not a chip on the shoulder by any means, im giving my side of the story. East wall is not a good place to live, very dodgy (and my family are from around there). Fairview is a mild improvement. Sure Clontarf and Raheny are better.

    I dont see it as a cracking city...my cousin got mugged there last week coming home. Got hammer to the back of his head. Cousin is 6ft2 and unemployed and the scumbags robbed his cash and phone. Other cousin got hangbag stolen 2 weeks ago, same again money and phone stolen.

    Place full of kips and im from Dublin. I love Dublin, because its my home, kips, scumbags and all. So its not a chip on my shoulder....I described the way of life for majority of people who I know who live and work there and my experience...and unfortunately to live there is crap, to visit is great.


  • Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭the west wing


    I just moved up to Dublin in January. At first I didn't do much socializing and was going home most weekends. In work there is only 2 of us so making friends there wasn't much help. So I decided to join things like bookclubs and get myself out there. Through one of the bookclubs I ended up going to a wine club and got an invitation to a whiskey club. So I'm begining to venture out in Dublin. Have I made any life long friends? I'm not sure but at least I'm meeting people from all walks of life!


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,673 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    East wall is not a good place to live

    Lived there for 12 years, still have life long friends from there, it's fine.

    I dont see it as a cracking city...my cousin...

    I can see you don't! My cousin got <insert crazy anecdote here with age, weight, weapon used, circumstances....> in Barcelona, doesn't mean it's a kip. Seriously OP, Dublin is actually a lot friendlier than most towns in Ireland, you will always hear the usual horror stories, ignore them, keep your wits about you, you will be fine.

    @West wing, good attitude, put yourself out there, magneticimpulse, join a bookclub.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Lived there for 12 years, still have life long friends from there, it's fine.




    I can see you don't! My cousin got <insert crazy anecdote here with age, weight, weapon used, circumstances....> in Barcelona, doesn't mean it's a kip. Seriously OP, Dublin is actually a lot friendlier than most towns in Ireland, you will always hear the usual horror stories, ignore them, keep your wits about you, you will be fine.

    @West wing, good attitude, put yourself out there, magneticimpulse, join a bookclub.
    ]]

    Haha I dont need to join any book club, got 30C, sunshine, views over a Chateau and Vineyard, and now off to watch some Rugby and eat good food in France....im enjoying the fantastic life and enjoying it all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 227 ✭✭Meself


    Well maybe thats because Im a Dub haha. Seriously I only have friends from school and the "latest" friends I have are from 1998 and 2001 respectively. As in, if your over 20 its extremely hard to meet any new people in Dublin. Ive done the whole Meet up and social groups phase, which is great for a while, but you never really make any friends at those things. Usually people who dont live full time in Dublin and its worse then Erasmus students, they usually gone by 2 months.

    My brother is the same, he only has friends from Secondary school. Even in University (we are talking all Dubs)...they didnt stay in contact. Same in my class at University, because everyone bar one person was from Dublin and went home each evening to whatever surburb you live in. He is not friends with anyone he works with and pretty much there is not a whole lot to do to meet new people after University/Work. (All my friends have had the same experience). His friends from University all moved to Limerick to do a Masters there and they are having a far more fun time then they did at University in Dublin.

    He is only 23 and he has not met any new people to hang around as friends since school. He pretty much now goes to work in Office type job. Works from 9am until 7pm at night at least and because he is young and "new" he has to complete his projects and work longer hours. However you have to factor in the time to commute to work...which in Dublin usually takes 1 hour at least (this is a journey which takes 10 mins by car in the evening but longer in rush hour on public transport). So he leaves at 8am at the latest. You have to give yourself 1 hour if you work in town. If you are commuting from one side to the other side you need about 2 hours to commute no joke. Like my dad has to get up at 6am, leaves house at 6.30am just to start work on time at 8.30am!!! I remember it was the same when I was in University for 4 years...never saw daylight as was getting the 6.30am bus. If you leave it too late, you wont arrive to work until after 10am...hence you usually have to leave the house before 7am just to arrive on time. This alone means people are too shattered by the weekend to even think about meeting up with other people. People might have the gym to fit in, but then thats about it. Its a huge rat race.


    This means that he on average works 12 hours a day from 9am to 9pm...means he gets home at 10pm at night after the commute. Eats dinner at 10pm and then bed to be up the next day to start again. Friday night is the same! Come Saturday when he does have time off he is too shattered to do anything at all. He has turned really grumpy as well because he used to be the type of guy in University to go out all the time. He was the top of his class, got a 1st in his degree and for the first time in his life he is struggling and his company dont seem to be very nice. He doesnt get any pay rise for putting in all this overtime. Also he is on 6 week probation...which i think is a gimmick to make him work harder every 6 weeks. Sure he was on 6 month probation, but now they review that every 6 weeks, so he doesnt know if he will even have a job then. Complete slave driving. My friends from college have pretty much same life, I dont know how people factor in relationships and families as well. My brother doesnt have time for a relationship. Really sad because he is such a young person and seems like there is not much worth living for in his life at the moment.

    Most young/new people he works with are from outside of Dublin, so they all go back to their mammies at the weekend and we are talking every weekend. So he never hangs out with them. Its pretty crap really. Same with my Dub friends who rent out their houses, their tenants all go home every single weekend to meet the boyfriend/girlfriend in another city. Its very difficult to meet anyone in Dublin for a relationship. You try out a few meet ups and speed dating events but give up because people have huge standards. Must have big house, huge salary etc!!! Women and men have mad inflated expectations, and since its a city there is nothing bringing them down to earth either. Not to mention its so expensive going out drinking in Dublin. Get taxi home etc. Most people go to Tesco's and just sit in with a pizza and drinks. Everytime im back, my friends dont even bother going out. This involves me driving to their house (so i cant drink) and then eating pizza and drinking cups of tea.

    And if you are a Dub, you still live at home with mammy and daddy...my friends were 28 before they decided it was time to leave home. This is great in one sense you still hang out with your brothers and sisters. Its bad in another sense because you never really went wild and had mad parties, because your mam is still texting wondering where you are. Ive cousins who are about 35 and still live at home. Went out on dates with quite a few 35 year olds and they have never moved out of home either because rent is mad expensive. This means the Dubs are not really have crazy nights out partying. But also because they all live at home, they have never moved area's, still hang out with friends from school and therefore no drive or need for people to mingle with each other to meet new people. Just leaves the other nationalities and outside Dubs to socialise with.

    All my friends is the same, they went to work for companies where the people were very old. Took about 10 years in the same job before they employed anybody else the same age as them.

    I dont find people friendly in Dublin either...your either a Dub or a blow in. Even if your a Dub, you dont like other Dub's because they are from the North or Southside. If your a blow in, they equally as skeptical about you and cannot understand accents from outside of Dublin.

    I got so fed up with the small minded attitude in Dublin, I left Ireland. Couldnt be doing with the big fish in small pond attitude. No idea why anybody who is not a Dub, would even chose to live in Dublin if your mammy doesnt live there. So many other nicer cities around Ireland like Cork or Galway, Sligo, people far more friendly. My friends have been working in Sligo and they love it there. Most Dub's I know have now moved to Meath or Kildare to get out of the place. My friend from school loves it in Maynooth....she would never dream of living in Dublin again.

    Also it must be really hard as ive heard so many landlords try to rip people off. Heard recently from a Cork friend that the house in Drumcondra he used to live in had 7 people in it. Must be a nightmare sharing with that amount of people.

    Only nice new person I met in Dublin recently was from Galway.

    Im looking for a job in Cork or myself. People far nicer there (and im a Dub). After University I was so pissed off with living in Dublin and wasting my time commuting everywhere. I moved to Cornwall, England, where it took 10 minutes by bicycle to get to work with fresh sea breeze country air to wake you up every morning (not carbon monoxide pollution you get in Dublin). No sitting in traffic for hours on end. People were so lovely. Town only had 5000 people, but I knew more people, practically everyone in the town because it was in middle of no where and it was too far away for people to commute home at the weekends. I made the best friends ever. Compare this to Dublin where I am from and currently only have 3 friends who I know in the county!!! I had the beach on my doorstep and went surfing every weekend. Could go for a hike after work. Just seemed like so much unlimited time in my life to do stuff. Same now in France, im a 10 minute walk from work. I know far more people here again. Just a 2 hour drive to the ski slopes/Spain and 40 minute drive to "sunny" surfers paradise beach. Add in fantastic food and drink...Ive lived a constant holiday since moving out of Dublin. I still go back to Dublin and join meet up clubs, but never meet anyone, find them so close minded. Seriously dont see the fasination about the place, or why someone would want to leave the likes of the beautiful coastline/countryside to live in smelly rude Dublin.

    Thats my experience. I think its a crazy mad life in Dublin of pure rat race. If people actually have a choice, I think living in beautiful area like Kerry and working from an office is idealic. Ive lots of friends who work office jobs in London and the company allows them to work from anywhere in the world (ie from home)...hence they live in France and Spain ;)

    Utter nonsense.

    Im from Tyrone and moved down here few years ago and i have to say i find the dubs a very friendly bunch of people. I've made quite a few new mates down here both through work and outside of work.

    If your socialable OP you will soon make friends. well done on the job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭coco_lola


    Thanks for the the replies.

    Magneticimpulse, your replies were unhelpful. Im not sure if you are aware, but you sound very bitter with life. Im a positive person and looking forward to the move, new starts and all that. I don't really require negativity on this thread. @ xkariex, PM me when you decide to move, maybe we can go for coffee or something, or even if you're looking for a housemate, we could chat about that, Im extremely friendly :)

    Thanks to everyone else for all your advice, keep it coming as I'm still confused!! :) I'd ideally like somewhere central, somewhere with a young buzz and things to do!

    I was looking at drumcondra? What does everyone think of it?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    coco_lola wrote: »
    Thanks for the the replies.

    Magneticimpulse, your replies were unhelpful. Im not sure if you are aware, but you sound very bitter with life. Im a positive person and looking forward to the move, new starts and all that. I don't really require negativity on this thread. @ xkariex, PM me when you decide to move, maybe we can go for coffee or something, or even if you're looking for a housemate, we could chat about that, Im extremely friendly :)

    Thanks to everyone else for all your advice, keep it coming as I'm still confused!! :) I'd ideally like somewhere central, somewhere with a young buzz and things to do!

    I was looking at drumcondra? What does everyone think of it?

    Life is not always a bunch of roses and I was giving the realistic viewpoint.
    Why did you bother posting if it wasnt to get peoples opinions...with that you have to expect good and also not good replies. That was my experience, my relatives experience, and 100 of my friends experience in Dublin (primary/secondary/college/work). How many still live in Dublin? About 10 out of that 100...the rest got fed up of the commute everyday and the little time they had to enjoy life or freetime.

    I love life, it was fantastically sunny here in France today,everyone at the beach in tshirt and shorts sunbathing. Biarittz got trashed in the Rugby, Clemont won. Had lovely food and brillant time with friends. So no im not bitter one bit, why? Because I left the rat race behind me in Dublin and the small minded negative people and bad weather. I never got into the property market and not like my friends who are stuck in Dublin in doom and gloom who got caught up in the rat race. Compared to cheaper food/rent/better unemployment money/free excellent medical care/good looking lovely people here. There is just nothing negative in my life right now....its 100% positive.

    And out of this thread so far, i seem to be the only Dub here...other people are from the country or not Dubs who have replied. Out of everyone who seems to have replied so far I have the most experience with living in Dublin since i lived there for 22 years of my life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Treehouse72


    I'm from Dublin and don't disagree with magneticimpulse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭coco_lola


    I think its different maybe for people who have lived in Dublin all their lives probably. Anyone ive ever known who has moved to Dublin has done so for a year or more and has found that they never looked back, made new friends etc and it changed their lives. Tbh, I could say the same about Limerick, that there's nothing to do, you won't make new friends etc, but it depends on your outlook, Im trying to get away from Limerick but I have friends that moved from Dublin, Galway Cork etc to Limerick and love it there. I think its all about a change. If I find the right people to move in with, and Im starting a part time Masters too, Im sure Ill make friends!

    Anyway, I kind of digressed with the thread. What I really came on for advice for was areas to live! :) I have now narrowed it down to regions such as Glasnevin, Sandymount, Clontarf, and areas around Dublin 1 city centre. Any advice?


  • Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭man.about.town


    Well maybe thats because Im a Dub haha. Seriously I only have friends from school and the "latest" friends I have are from 1998 and 2001 respectively. As in, if your over 20 its extremely hard to meet any new people in Dublin. Ive done the whole Meet up and social groups phase, which is great for a while, but you never really make any friends at those things. Usually people who dont live full time in Dublin and its worse then Erasmus students, they usually gone by 2 months.

    My brother is the same, he only has friends from Secondary school. Even in University (we are talking all Dubs)...they didnt stay in contact. Same in my class at University, because everyone bar one person was from Dublin and went home each evening to whatever surburb you live in. He is not friends with anyone he works with and pretty much there is not a whole lot to do to meet new people after University/Work. (All my friends have had the same experience). His friends from University all moved to Limerick to do a Masters there and they are having a far more fun time then they did at University in Dublin.

    He is only 23 and he has not met any new people to hang around as friends since school. He pretty much now goes to work in Office type job. Works from 9am until 7pm at night at least and because he is young and "new" he has to complete his projects and work longer hours. However you have to factor in the time to commute to work...which in Dublin usually takes 1 hour at least (this is a journey which takes 10 mins by car in the evening but longer in rush hour on public transport). So he leaves at 8am at the latest. You have to give yourself 1 hour if you work in town. If you are commuting from one side to the other side you need about 2 hours to commute no joke. Like my dad has to get up at 6am, leaves house at 6.30am just to start work on time at 8.30am!!! I remember it was the same when I was in University for 4 years...never saw daylight as was getting the 6.30am bus. If you leave it too late, you wont arrive to work until after 10am...hence you usually have to leave the house before 7am just to arrive on time. This alone means people are too shattered by the weekend to even think about meeting up with other people. People might have the gym to fit in, but then thats about it. Its a huge rat race.


    This means that he on average works 12 hours a day from 9am to 9pm...means he gets home at 10pm at night after the commute. Eats dinner at 10pm and then bed to be up the next day to start again. Friday night is the same! Come Saturday when he does have time off he is too shattered to do anything at all. He has turned really grumpy as well because he used to be the type of guy in University to go out all the time. He was the top of his class, got a 1st in his degree and for the first time in his life he is struggling and his company dont seem to be very nice. He doesnt get any pay rise for putting in all this overtime. Also he is on 6 week probation...which i think is a gimmick to make him work harder every 6 weeks. Sure he was on 6 month probation, but now they review that every 6 weeks, so he doesnt know if he will even have a job then. Complete slave driving. My friends from college have pretty much same life, I dont know how people factor in relationships and families as well. My brother doesnt have time for a relationship. Really sad because he is such a young person and seems like there is not much worth living for in his life at the moment.

    Most young/new people he works with are from outside of Dublin, so they all go back to their mammies at the weekend and we are talking every weekend. So he never hangs out with them. Its pretty crap really. Same with my Dub friends who rent out their houses, their tenants all go home every single weekend to meet the boyfriend/girlfriend in another city. Its very difficult to meet anyone in Dublin for a relationship. You try out a few meet ups and speed dating events but give up because people have huge standards. Must have big house, huge salary etc!!! Women and men have mad inflated expectations, and since its a city there is nothing bringing them down to earth either. Not to mention its so expensive going out drinking in Dublin. Get taxi home etc. Most people go to Tesco's and just sit in with a pizza and drinks. Everytime im back, my friends dont even bother going out. This involves me driving to their house (so i cant drink) and then eating pizza and drinking cups of tea.

    And if you are a Dub, you still live at home with mammy and daddy...my friends were 28 before they decided it was time to leave home. This is great in one sense you still hang out with your brothers and sisters. Its bad in another sense because you never really went wild and had mad parties, because your mam is still texting wondering where you are. Ive cousins who are about 35 and still live at home. Went out on dates with quite a few 35 year olds and they have never moved out of home either because rent is mad expensive. This means the Dubs are not really have crazy nights out partying. But also because they all live at home, they have never moved area's, still hang out with friends from school and therefore no drive or need for people to mingle with each other to meet new people. Just leaves the other nationalities and outside Dubs to socialise with.

    All my friends is the same, they went to work for companies where the people were very old. Took about 10 years in the same job before they employed anybody else the same age as them.

    I dont find people friendly in Dublin either...your either a Dub or a blow in. Even if your a Dub, you dont like other Dub's because they are from the North or Southside. If your a blow in, they equally as skeptical about you and cannot understand accents from outside of Dublin.

    I got so fed up with the small minded attitude in Dublin, I left Ireland. Couldnt be doing with the big fish in small pond attitude. No idea why anybody who is not a Dub, would even chose to live in Dublin if your mammy doesnt live there. So many other nicer cities around Ireland like Cork or Galway, Sligo, people far more friendly. My friends have been working in Sligo and they love it there. Most Dub's I know have now moved to Meath or Kildare to get out of the place. My friend from school loves it in Maynooth....she would never dream of living in Dublin again.

    Also it must be really hard as ive heard so many landlords try to rip people off. Heard recently from a Cork friend that the house in Drumcondra he used to live in had 7 people in it. Must be a nightmare sharing with that amount of people.

    Only nice new person I met in Dublin recently was from Galway.

    Im looking for a job in Cork or myself. People far nicer there (and im a Dub). After University I was so pissed off with living in Dublin and wasting my time commuting everywhere. I moved to Cornwall, England, where it took 10 minutes by bicycle to get to work with fresh sea breeze country air to wake you up every morning (not carbon monoxide pollution you get in Dublin). No sitting in traffic for hours on end. People were so lovely. Town only had 5000 people, but I knew more people, practically everyone in the town because it was in middle of no where and it was too far away for people to commute home at the weekends. I made the best friends ever. Compare this to Dublin where I am from and currently only have 3 friends who I know in the county!!! I had the beach on my doorstep and went surfing every weekend. Could go for a hike after work. Just seemed like so much unlimited time in my life to do stuff. Same now in France, im a 10 minute walk from work. I know far more people here again. Just a 2 hour drive to the ski slopes/Spain and 40 minute drive to "sunny" surfers paradise beach. Add in fantastic food and drink...Ive lived a constant holiday since moving out of Dublin. I still go back to Dublin and join meet up clubs, but never meet anyone, find them so close minded. Seriously dont see the fasination about the place, or why someone would want to leave the likes of the beautiful coastline/countryside to live in smelly rude Dublin.

    Thats my experience. I think its a crazy mad life in Dublin of pure rat race. If people actually have a choice, I think living in beautiful area like Kerry and working from an office is idealic. Ive lots of friends who work office jobs in London and the company allows them to work from anywhere in the world (ie from home)...hence they live in France and Spain ;)

    your obviously a moron and an idiot. OP Dublin is a fantastic place to live. i grew up in clontarf and its fantastic. if your looking to get some mates, join any of the sports clubs, gaa, rugby even the gym, you'll meet plenty of people there


  • Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭man.about.town


    Life is not always a bunch of roses and I was giving the realistic viewpoint.
    Why did you bother posting if it wasnt to get peoples opinions...with that you have to expect good and also not good replies. That was my experience, my relatives experience, and 100 of my friends experience in Dublin (primary/secondary/college/work). How many still live in Dublin? About 10 out of that 100...the rest got fed up of the commute everyday and the little time they had to enjoy life or freetime.

    I love life, it was fantastically sunny here in France today,everyone at the beach in tshirt and shorts sunbathing. Biarittz got trashed in the Rugby, Clemont won. Had lovely food and brillant time with friends. So no im not bitter one bit, why? Because I left the rat race behind me in Dublin and the small minded negative people and bad weather. I never got into the property market and not like my friends who are stuck in Dublin in doom and gloom who got caught up in the rat race. Compared to cheaper food/rent/better unemployment money/free excellent medical care/good looking lovely people here. There is just nothing negative in my life right now....its 100% positive.

    And out of this thread so far, i seem to be the only Dub here...other people are from the country or not Dubs who have replied. Out of everyone who seems to have replied so far I have the most experience with living in Dublin since i lived there for 22 years of my life.

    maybe its not dublin, maybe its you? its what you make of it. i love dublin and ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭coco_lola


    I was actually looking at Clontarf to move to, it seems like a lovely area. I'm 21, although feel about 25, so hoping it would be a young enough area with things to do? I know it's close to town so no worries there!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    I'm from Dublin and don't disagree with magneticimpulse.

    I'm from Dublin and do disagree with magneticimpulse.

    Pretty much every point that magnetic impulse made can be attributed to the individual decision by the person (dad, brother etc).
    Dublin is just another city on the arsehole of Europe.
    Like any city it has its good and bad.
    But this crap about commuting, making friends and working conditions are solely down to the ability of the individual to make informed decisions.
    You don't just turn up in a city and expect your life to fall into place.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    Seriously I only have friends from school and the "latest" friends I have are from 1998 and 2001 respectively. As in, if your over 20 its extremely hard to meet any new people in Dublin.


    My brother is the same, he only has friends from Secondary school.
    He is only 23 and he has not met any new people to hang around as friends since school.
    However you have to factor in the time to commute to work...which in Dublin usually takes 1 hour at least (this is a journey which takes 10 mins by car in the evening but longer in rush hour on public transport). So he leaves at 8am at the latest. You have to give yourself 1 hour if you work in town. If you are commuting from one side to the other side you need about 2 hours to commute no joke. Like my dad has to get up at 6am, leaves house at 6.30am just to start work on time at 8.30am!!! I remember it was the same when I was in University for 4 years...never saw daylight as was getting the 6.30am bus.


    Most young/new people he works with are from outside of Dublin, so they all go back to their mammies at the weekend and we are talking every weekend. So he never hangs out with them. Its pretty crap really. Same with my Dub friends who rent out their houses, their tenants all go home every single weekend to meet the boyfriend/girlfriend in another city. Its very difficult to meet anyone in Dublin for a relationship. You try out a few meet ups and speed dating events but give up because people have huge standards. Must have big house, huge salary etc!!! Women and men have mad inflated expectations, and since its a city there is nothing bringing them down to earth either. Not to mention its so expensive going out drinking in Dublin. Get taxi home etc. Most people go to Tesco's and just sit in with a pizza and drinks. Everytime im back, my friends dont even bother going out. This involves me driving to their house (so i cant drink) and then eating pizza and drinking cups of tea.

    And if you are a Dub, you still live at home with mammy and daddy...my friends were 28 before they decided it was time to leave home. This is great in one sense you still hang out with your brothers and sisters. Its bad in another sense because you never really went wild and had mad parties, because your mam is still texting wondering where you are. Ive cousins who are about 35 and still live at home.

    I dont find people friendly in Dublin either...your either a Dub or a blow in. Even if your a Dub, you dont like other Dub's because they are from the North or Southside. If your a blow in, they equally as skeptical about you and cannot understand accents from outside of Dublin.
    I got so fed up with the small minded attitude in Dublin, I left Ireland. Couldnt be doing with the big fish in small pond attitude. No idea why anybody who is not a Dub, would even chose to live in Dublin if your mammy doesnt live there. So many other nicer cities around Ireland like Cork or Galway, Sligo, people far more friendly. My friends have been working in Sligo and they love it there. Most Dub's I know have now moved to Meath or Kildare to get out of the place. My friend from school loves it in Maynooth....she would never dream of living in Dublin again.
    Also it must be really hard as ive heard so many landlords try to rip people off. Heard recently from a Cork friend that the house in Drumcondra he used to live in had 7 people in it. Must be a nightmare sharing with that amount of people.
    Only nice new person I met in Dublin recently was from Galway.
    Compare this to Dublin where I am from and currently only have 3 friends who I know in the county!!!
    Seriously dont see the fasination about the place, or why someone would want to leave the likes of the beautiful coastline/countryside to live in smelly rude Dublin.

    This is a terrible post which unfortunately speaks volumes about you.
    It smacks of bitterness, blame, lonlieness and a woe is me attitude.

    If your brother/dad have a crap commute, they should just move location.
    I used to have an hour and a half commute into Sydney for work. It was crap. Did I blame Sydney? No, I just moved to a more convenient spot.

    You brother is getting a tough time in the job as the newbie. What has that to do with the City of Dublin?

    None of my Dublin friends live with their parents. Another sterotype.
    And this crap about northside/southside/non dub's is absolute pish. It exists in the form of banter at best.

    Coco lola can come and hang out with my large network of Northside/Southside/Culchie/European mates and have the craic.
    Or they can go drink tea with you in your mates house and complain about the traffic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭coco_lola


    Zamboni wrote: »
    Coco lola can come and hang out with my large network of Northside/Southside/Culchie/European mates and have the craic.

    Careful Zamboni, i might take u up on that!!! :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    coco_lola wrote: »
    Careful Zamboni, i might take u up on that!!! :)

    Níl aon fadhb.


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