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Policeman schooled

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    I find if you are courteous with the guards they are equally courteous with you. There was no need for the guy to use the tone or language he did, if he had been more respectful he probably could have pulled off the whole thing without a hitch, example;

    Officer: Do you know why I'm stopping you?
    Idiot: I'm afraid I'm not aware of having broken the law, exactly what did I do?
    Officer: You just ran a red light.
    Idiot: I'm terribly sorry, but, just to know, what law is that exactly?
    Officer fails to answer.
    Idiot: Sorry?
    Officer: May I have your details please?
    Idiot: I'm sorry I don't feel comfortable giving you my details when I am not wholly sure what I have done wrong.

    All without the attitude of course, and with a great deal of sincerity. I don't understand barking "My lawyer told me not to speak to you, I am a student of law you know" at someone before the situation has even been clarified, I also don't understand why he needed to hire someone to tell him that when he's a law student himself. I don't agree with any of his crap by the way, I just don't understand why he has to act like such an arse about said crap, its like he has some messed up superiority complex.

    And to those pointing out the nitty gritty of what he may or may not have done wrong and how worthwhile the policeman's cause was, it doesn't matter, he has a duty to uphold the law, all of it, and he doesn't have the luxury of deciding whether or not he should stop the man. If you think our basic road traffic laws should be more complex so as to allow for a variety of scenarios then take it up with your TDs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hookah


    The guy did break the law...

    The offence was breaking a red light. This is covered under section 36 of the Road Traffic Act.
    The police officer in the video was attempting to issue a fine for said offence, in order to do so he must have the name and address of the person, in the form of some identification.
    If the person refuses to offer these details, then the police officer canarrest the person without a warrant under section 24 Police and Criminal Evidence act until such time that the name and address of the person in question can be determined.

    There is a difference between a law and a statute.

    These guys respect the law, but instead protest against (a lot of) statutory regulation.

    Their argument is that the police are there to uphold the law, not enforce legislation.

    That is the distinction, which exists in law, and is the basis of their argument.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    Two arses acting like arse's, one arse video's it and puts in on youtube to show the world how much of an arse he is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    If the police do not explain why they are stopping you and under what law they are in accordance with, you do not have to stop for them or answer their questions.

    "Any person (note: including a Garda) who, without lawful authority or reasonable excuse, wilfully prevents or interrupts the free passage of any person or vehicle in any public place is committing an offence under Section 9 of the CRIMINAL JUSTICE (PUBLIC ORDER) ACT, 1994”.

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1994/en/act/pub/0002/sec0009.html#sec9

    http://www.knowyourrights.ie/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Evolute


    I absolutely hate pompous gob****es like that. He'll learn his lesson the hard way though when he eventually gets taken out of it by a truck after going through a red light.

    Sadly when that happens the truck driver will probably end up getting the blame:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    I absolutely hate pompous gob****es like that. He'll learn his lesson the hard way though when he eventually gets taken out of it by a truck after going through a red light.

    QFT. Have a look on youtube for jimmy justice. Makes me want to fly over and attack him with a crowbar.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭karma_


    fcuking hell, is it too much to ask that those who enforce the law know it? To be quite honest, it is the bare minimum I expect of a police officer. It's a bit shocking also, the volume of posters who do not expect this of a police force.

    Well done cyclist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Pj!


    What an idiot.

    The same idiot will be straight on the phone to the police if he ever gets robbed/mugged/crashed into, expecting them to come running and sort it all out (which they will).

    The guy broke a red light and gets pulled up on it. What exactly does he think is wrong with that?


    The policeman didn't handle it well. If the guy tries that everytime he gets pulled up he'll be made look the bigger fool more often than not. I'll bet he wouldn't post those videos though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    What a complete bellend. Hopefully he forgets to look both ways the next time.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭Tinie


    RichieC wrote: »
    Hate these idiots.. there's one on you-tube of these Ayn Rand fanatics driving through police stops just so he can pull off this self important nonsense for the camera.. arseholes.
    Got a link to that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    Can't decide which one I dislike more


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Tinie wrote: »
    Got a link to that?

    I look, it's been a while

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGMQywz7jPY


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Damokc


    I dont think its often an Irish person would be standing up for british police but that guy that ran the red light is a complete tool.he shud have just smacked him and done a cover up after!;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hookah


    Here's some more from the same guy...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,565 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    What is it about cyclists that made them believe that traffic lights do not apply to them?

    In this case unstoppable arrogance meets immovable ignorance. At least in Ireland it's an offence not to provide a guard with your name and address.

    I've never seen a more compelling case than this that all bicycles should be issued with licence plates.

    I'd love to see the follow-up video where the cyclist reports his flat being burgled and P.C. Stout arrives on the crime scene...."Oh dear Sir, we meet again..."


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    The cop should have known the law and outlined it clearly to the man, given him one maybe two chances and then performed his arrest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    At least in Ireland it's an offence not to provide a guard with your name and address.

    This is not true.

    You only have to give your name and address when the gaurd explains what law he suspects you of breaking.

    If a gaurd just randomly asks you for your name and address you do not have to give it to them.

    We have a constitution to protect the rights of the private citizen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Damokc


    its people like him that give the english a bad name...maybe the bad name is justified then:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭upandcumming


    PK2008 wrote: »
    This is not true.

    You only have to give your name and address when the gaurd explains what law he suspects you of breaking.

    If a gaurd just randomly asks you for your name and address you do not have to give it to them.

    We have a constitution to protect the rights of the private citizen.
    What is a gaurd?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭pappyodaniel


    He is an arsehole.
    Plain and simple.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    He should try it on in America and see how he gets on...



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hookah




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