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"The one with the Duathlon, Half Marathon and the Adventure Race"

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    poconnor16 wrote: »
    Best of luck Backspacer! I am training for my first half in december, so really enjoying your thread. By the looks of it you will cruise the half sub 2 hours which is brilliant!! I'm looking for sub 2.5 hours for mine. :o

    Cheers for that, am getting a bit excited now that its nearly here. Hopefully things go my way and keep the sub 2 in my sights.

    Which half are you running in December?

    Always good to know someone is getting something out of this thread, great for the ego if nothing else :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 807 ✭✭✭poconnor16


    backspacer wrote: »
    Cheers for that, am getting a bit excited now that its nearly here. Hopefully things go my way and keep the sub 2 in my sights.

    Which half are you running in December?

    Always good to know someone is getting something out of this thread, great for the ego if nothing else :D

    The Waterfront in Clonakilty, Cork..its on Dec 10th. Last year was the inaugral, I did my first 10k. (and nearly died lol). I spent 3 months injured during the summer, so missed everything! So hell bent on this.

    I'm not focussed on time, just finishing really. I might look into going to the running club once a week once I reach the ten mile mark. It sounds so scary, 10 miles!! Not to mind 13.1... :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    poconnor16 wrote: »
    The Waterfront in Clonakilty, Cork..its on Dec 10th. Last year was the inaugral, I did my first 10k. (and nearly died lol). I spent 3 months injured during the summer, so missed everything! So hell bent on this.

    I'm not focussed on time, just finishing really. I might look into going to the running club once a week once I reach the ten mile mark. It sounds so scary, 10 miles!! Not to mind 13.1... :)

    Good stuff, when you get to 10 miles in it, pure momentum and adrenalin will get you the rest of the way, you'll have done the hard bit to get that far in training.

    If you need a boost, check for a Fit4Life group in your area. This is how I got started and accomodate all types of runners, so might give you a hand getting the mileage in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    So its less than 48 hours now until the half marathon, and took a short run last night to make sure the legs were still loose and not starting to seize up on me. I kept it local as I've been doing for the last few weeks, but think I need some variety in my runs from now on or I'll go mad :)
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    I took a short run up to the pitch and up to the Caladh Thaidhg turn last night and jogged home. It was a nice night for a jog, cool and a slightly stiff breeze on the return home. These short runs sort of throw me as I feel I'm only getting started and then I'm finished for the day. But I suppose its better to keep the long miles in the tank for 11am on Saturday when I really need them.

    Location: Carraroe
    Distance: 2.28 miles ( 3.66 km)
    Pace: 8:36 p/mile
    Time: 19:38

    The funny thing is I reckon my mind is starting to play tricks on me now, every little twinge that comes and goes convincing me that something is wrong. But am feeling good today, hopefully that's a sign of the nerves disappearing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Micilin Muc


    Go n-éirí leat Backspacer! It looks like you tapered well. Are you going for sub-1:50?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    Sub 2 was the original target, sub 1:50 would have to be about 8:23 a mile on average to do...which might be a stretch for me to do consistently. But that said if the weather was reasonable (wind been light) and got off to a good start, then who knows.

    But am going to be realistic and say sub 2 for the moment :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭ronanmac


    A Mháirtín, tá tú "all set", mar a deir muid féin!

    Best of luck on the day, never mind the imaginary taper niggles, and enjoy the race! You've come a long way in a short period of time, and I'm sure Saturday is only a stepping stone on a great running journey!

    Adh mór.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    Cheers Rónán,

    The niggles seems to have retreated, here's to hoping that this is the first of many Half/full marathons!!

    Will try not to shame the club on Saturday:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    Less than 24 hours to go now, am feeling a bit excited now. Pains are all gone thank god.

    Picking up my race pack this evening, am race number 556 so hopefully will finish a few places ahead of that, anywhere in the middle with a sub-2 time and I'll consider it a good day :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    I had originally planned to write this on Saturday after the race, but was feeling bitterly disappointed, groggy and I suspect a bit dehydrated after the race and didn't feel up to much.

    I woke up at about 7:30 am on Saturday, excited that the day had finally come. I had breakfast, yogurt mixed with some muesli, nothing too heavy as I didn't want to be carrying a heavy stomach with me. Was sipping on water as much as I could and headed on into town.

    Pre-race everything was looking good, no niggles, no pains and was feeling good. Got to the start line and was ready to go. We got under way at 11 on the button and up the Grattan Road out onto Salthill,the first thing i noticed was that it was very humid even for October, which i thought was just my mind playing tricks with me (but thankfully verified by another runner later on) and moved along at a nice steady pace trundling along between the 8:35 - 8:40 mark per mile. As we returned from the first loop and passed the 6 mile marker at the 51 minute mark I was thinking at this point that the sub-2 was definitely within reach.

    I went through the 7 mile marker at 1:00:03 and was looking good. But as i approached Blackrock and the hill for the turn to the caravan park again, i started to feel the first serious signs of something not being right. Its hard to explain but my legs were still going and plodding along and when i reached the 11 mile mark at 1:40 my legs just said "enough". At this point I was reduced to a walk for at least a minute to two minutes to try and pull myself together. I went again and attempt to run and made the turn in the park for the small loop and there again i was reduced to a walk -thinking to myself as I saw my sub-2 disappearing from me "f**k it - it's gone".

    I tried to pull myself together and made it on to the Mutton Island causeway and made it down around the turn at the bottom and then again my legs seemed to stop me. Was feeling really dejected at this point and wished for it to be over, the time no longer concerned me. Eventually when I got going again and down the final stretch into South Park (a piece i normally enjoyed) seemed to go on for an eternity as i could hear the announcer calling the runners as they passed over the finish line.

    Eventually i could see the turn and pushed on, apparently according to my better half "looking pretty miserable" coming over the finish line. 2:02:08 was my time, so that explained the look.

    When i eventually got to sit down, i could feel my legs shaking and my head was starting to feel a bit funny. I attempted to pull myself together and get out and get some fresh air - but felt pretty groggy for most the day after. Thankfully its gone now but was a new feeling for me.

    Since then I've had a few days to think about it and have a couple of suspicions as to what happened on the day:
    • Breakfast, am not sure I had enough, plus it was probably digested after 3 and a 1/2 hours and probably burnt off the remainder midrace - so might have just had nothing left in the tank
    • Hydration - am not 100% convinced i had taken on enough water the day before and the day of the race.
    Like I said, these are just my suspicions, I don't claim to be an expert. But the one thing I learned on Saturday is "don't disrespect the half marathon" - preparation is everything for a good time, and leave anything to chance you will get caught out.

    Location: Galway Bay Half Marathon
    Distance: 13.1 miles (21km)
    Pace (Avg): 9:19 p/mile
    Time: 2:02:08


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Micilin Muc


    2 minutes off your target in your first half-marathon isn't bad at all. Plus you got a decent PB! Well done!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    2 minutes off your target in your first half-marathon isn't bad at all. Plus you got a decent PB! Well done!

    Ah its not a bad time i know, but i reckon i had my head set on a sub 2, so just a bit disappointed. Still its a good lesson on preparation for a HM in future.


  • Registered Users Posts: 807 ✭✭✭poconnor16


    I'm going mad to hear that you are disappointed - but it sounds like you have a real competitive streak in you. I can only imagine what you will do to beat that PB in your next race!

    Congrats Backspacer, brilliant time for your first go at it. Jeez, to even finish a half first time around is great going, try to remember that.

    Your post is a very interesting read; I'm very interested as to the thoughts of the experienced guys on this.

    Well done again - I have great respect for all participants, but even greater respect for those that are struggling and still dont give up. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    Cheers poconnor, its more a case that i set a target in my mind and was disappointed i didn't nail it on the first attempt. However disappointment is a powerful motivator, because I should be back next year to put that result right.

    Still its an interesting learning curve that I hope to learn a fair bit from next time i run that distance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭MarySamsonite


    Congratulations on the HM backspacer! You did it in a fantastic time. I really enjoyed your race report and I'm now looking forward to hearing about your next goal!! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    Congratulations on the HM backspacer! You did it in a fantastic time. I really enjoyed your race report and I'm now looking forward to hearing about your next goal!! :)

    Am not quite sure where to go from here, a marathon may be a bridge too far yet. Am intent though on putting the half marathon right with a proper effort next time. Although am not quite sure when I will do that yet.

    Still Conamara 10k next Saturday, hoping to put in a decent time there now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Micilin Muc


    I felt a little bit lost after my first Half-Marathon too, I didn't think I was ready for a marathon but still wanted to progress. In hindsight, I should've done another Half and concentrated on doing a certain amount of runs at a certain pace, plus more cross-training and strength exercises to improve my running form.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    I felt a little bit lost after my first Half-Marathon too, I didn't think I was ready for a marathon but still wanted to progress. In hindsight, I should've done another Half and concentrated on doing a certain amount of runs at a certain pace, plus more cross-training and strength exercises to improve my running form.

    Am trying to get a bike at the moment to use for my off days, it might improve my fitness as a type of cross training.

    After next weekend, am going to be setting new targets for myself, am just not sure what yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭ronanmac


    Máirtín, congratulations on the race, well done! 18 minutes faster than my first ever half marathon :o

    I think you're being very harsh on yourself following this run. You're coming from a base of zero, and yet, despite bouts of walking, you came within two minutes of cracking a sub-two hour half marathon on your first time out. You ran a healthy pace for the whole race. The time seems to be bothering you , which is understandable considering you had sub-2 in your head. On the other hand, it's not all that long ago where running 13.1 miles seemed a genuine challenge in its own right?

    As for the problems on the day, the first thing I would say is discount the notion of not having enough breakfast. You had plenty to eat, there wasn't a big gap between the meal and race, but enough to digest it. If you really feel that that might be an issue, carry a gel or two with you. I doubt it was that, however.

    Dehydration could have been an issue. It wasn't that hot a day, however, and as long as you were taking on some water during the race, you should have been fine.

    My suspicion, and there's no way of confirming this unless you were wearing a Garmin or if you have mile splits, is that you went out a bit too fast, and suffered later. It's really easy to get sucked into other people's race and pace, and if you are used to running a certain pace, then a faster pace will catch up on you pretty quickly in a race. Of course, there is also the real possibility that it was just one of those days when the legs just feel heavy.

    Either way, it was a great debut. As for what to do next, do more races! Get used to race day, and as Micilín Muc suggested, do another half marathon. Once you nail that sub-2 target, you'll be able to think more clearly about what you want to do next.

    Comhghairdeachas!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    Cheers for the words of encouragement there Rónán, was not a happy camper at all on Saturday after it. The Garmin is my Christmas list this year anyways, can only give some educated guess work with a stopwatch for splits :D

    The time did bother me to be fair, but the more I think about it I shouldn't be so annoyed as this time last year this would be have been something I'd have considered well beyond me to do.

    I never actually considered the pace at all in the grand scheme of things, I figured that it was comfortable enough, but like you said Rónán it's very easy to get sucked into another person's race. But its a learning curve and will have to get used to it really.

    Still the next thing on my mind is the Conamara 10K on Saturday, am looking forward to this in a big way, good way to get back into the running after a few days off :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    I figured sitting around and abandoning all my good eating habits the last few days were going to catch up with me, so I got out last night and just knocked out a few kilometres around Carraroe. It was a serious effort to get off the couch but I'm glad I did now as it really did me the world of good.
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    Despite the fact it was a cold windy evening, when I got started the cold eventually disappeared as I took off around Carraroe, feeling a bit rough to be quite honest. The legs felt heavy but soon enough I was forgetting about that and just knocked the run out, feeling great after it. Ah it's good to get back into it again.

    Location: Carraroe
    Distance: 5.02 km (3.1 miles)
    Pace: 9:30 p/mile
    Time: 29:29


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭ronanmac


    What time of day do you head out on your runs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    ronanmac wrote: »
    What time of day do you head out on your runs?

    Depends really, could head out at 8 in the morning some days and then between 7 and 9 in the evening other days. I don't really have a fixed schedule for running at all lately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    After the exertions of the Half Marathon, I was glad to get a race like this to follow it up to get the body back into racing. To be honest it couldn't have been a better race, close to home, a bit challenging and just a great day out.

    I arrived in Carna village at about 2:30pm and you could see the build up of people already there getting ready for the race. I landed in and registration was done nice and quick, was well organized and was out again in no time. The gift pack was nice, but the bizarre thing on offer was free wellies if they were needed :D

    As 4pm came you could see people building up on the road, mostly runners, some spectators, others just there out of idle curiosity as to why their village had been over run with singlet wearing numbered people.

    4pm came and Catherina McKiernan started the race and even took part then as well. The pace was nice and steady and was conscious to keep it steady this week so that I wouldn't have a repeat of the Galway Bay HM of maybe going too fast. I kept it at a nice steady 5:30 p/km for the first few km as I got comfortable with my breathing. As i made the turn for 5km at about 25 minutes, i knew that my 10k PB was going to be beaten and even contemplated a sub-50 but thought "am not going down this road again" and started to give it everything for the remaining distance. I hit 8 at around 40:30 and though "OK, just keep the pace and run a decent time, sub-50 is not important".

    Between 8 and 9 km you hit a hill on the way back to the finish and just attempted to push through as much as I could, knowing that between 9-10 km was a nice flat run to the finish. I pushed on as I could hear the finishing line whistle and the crowd and even managed a little sprint near the end going over the finish line in 50:42, a whole 4:43 off my best 10k time to date. Needless to say delighted :D

    Location: Conamara 10k, Carna
    Distance: 10k (6.1 miles)
    Pace: 8:19 p/mile
    Time: 50:42


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    Distance|Personal Best|Target Time
    5k|27:14|25:00|
    8k|42:50|40:00|
    10k|50:42|50:00|
    Half Marathon|2:02:08|2:00:00|



    I figure this is a good a time as any to look at times to date and what i hope to achieve sometime soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Micilin Muc


    Very realistic targets there. You should be able to tick off each one as you race them next!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    Very realistic targets there. You should be able to tick off each one as you race them next!

    I suppose i settled on these targets as they can be knocked down incrementally, no point going for a ridiculous target just yet :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    Took a run in with the Fit4Life group last night to get the legs going after the 10k on Saturday. Since the Winter evenings have kicked in, all trip to Dangan for running have been put off now and its back to the streets for training this Winter. I have moved up into the Intermediate group and the pace is noticeably different but none the less, nothing too uncomfortable to maintain over a distance which I consider good progress in my books.

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    We left from the library in Westside, and decided that we would head up towards the Western Distributor Rd, which was ideal with very short subtle inclines which suited me down to the ground. The plan was that we would go as far as Blake Roundabout on the Clybaun Rd and turn there, but as we got there some of us settled on heading up and finishing at the next Roundabout just to get the extra mile in. Was glad to do this, as was thinking the run was a bit short to begin with. As we reached the Roundabout on the Cappagh Rd and turned you could feel more comfortable coming back, as the incline was slightly downhill and the stiff breeze was behind me.

    All in all a good night's running to start the week, a solid 5 and a bit miles.

    Location: Westside Library to Clybaun Rd
    Distance: 5.34 miles (8.59km)
    Pace: 10:14 p/mile
    Time: 54:41


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    Finally picked up a Bike on Tuesday, so hopefully this will sort out my rest days. Now to see if i can remember how to cycle after 15 odd years :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭backspacer


    Its been a lazy week for me this week again, i really need to start pulling my thumb out and start putting in more mileage to keep the legs going over the next few months. I'd hate to have to start again from scratch come January.

    I went for another Fit4Life session last night and was glad to do it, it got the legs going again and definitely felt pretty fast pace which suited me down to the ground. We went from Westside Library out towards the Westwood Hotel and out the Moycullen road for approximately 2.3 miles. This is an excellent route as it consists some steady and sharp inclines. I noticed that my hill running has improved a bit, i don't suffer as much as i used to and can even push on a bit going up them, always good progress in my books.

    Anyways we reached about 2.3 miles and had to turn back as the street lights we rapidly running out and was too dangerous for the entire group to be running blind. The pace going back seemed rapid enough and just kept ploughing along. Felt great as we finished up, real good pacey run.

    Location: Westside Library out Moycullen Road
    Distance: 4.8 miles (approx)
    Pace: 8:45 p/mile
    Time: 42:00


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