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    #32
    The Cush
    Registered Users Posts: 15,550 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    28064212 wrote: »
    Odd. Try in a different browser maybe? And try logged in and logged out.

    Did the same search logged out, same problem - 20,966,548 results (1.594 seconds).

    I've always used IE as my browser and am happy with it, won't be changing just to get the new advanced search working. The vBulletin search works fine in IE.


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    #33
    28064212
    Registered Users Posts: 10,634 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    The Cush wrote: »
    Did the same search logged out, same problem - 20,966,548 results (1.594 seconds).

    I've always used IE as my browser and am happy with it, won't be changing just to get the new advanced search working. The vBulletin search works fine in IE.
    Oh yeah, just saying to test it in another browser to narrow down the problem

    IE sucks :pac:

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    #34
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    ibarelycare wrote: »
    You can use the old one, there's a link at the bottom of the new search page to use the old vBulletin search.

    Also, if you right click on the "search" link in the toolbar (between New Posts and Quick Links), and click "open in new tab" it opens up the old search for some reason!

    Thank you.

    I'll give that a try in a few minutes because I've all but given up trying to use the new search.


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    #35
    Morlar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    My feedback is that the old search function worked absolutely fine - the new one is total ****e.


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    #36
    Hank_Jones
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    Morlar wrote: »
    My feedback is that the old search function worked absolutely fine - the new one is total ****e.

    Don't be afraid to tell us what you really think. :pac:


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    #37
    yoshytoshy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭yoshytoshy


    Boards seems to have the sh1ts tonite ,is this because of the search engine ?


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    #38
    ShiverinEskimo
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭ShiverinEskimo


    Dav wrote: »

    --LOS--:
    - I wish you could search for newest first without the indentation and grouping of posts in the same forum, it makes it so much less clear the way it is now
    * So you would prefer to be able to see a list of your last posts in exact chronological order rather than based on the threads you posted in? The My Threads functionallity already covers this.

    Just on this note - I passed 10k posts recently and for the craic I wanted to see what such a 'milestone' turned out to be.

    Using MyThreads doesn't allow me to do this, the new search catagorises posts by thread so I can't figure it from there either. The old search would show them in exact chronological order and would be simple for me to count back the 60 odd posts to find it.

    It's a pointless excercise I admit but a clear example where the new search displaying 'newest first' isn't really the case given the by-thread sorting.


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    #39
    Darragh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Darragh


    Hi folks

    This afternoon in search we launched/changed/improved:



    Sorting:


    If you switch to "newest first" when searching, your default searches will be "newest first" thereafter. This is set in your browser.


    Results:


    Thread titles are now included in all search results.


    You now have the option to select "show more" from the list on the left which lets you narrow down searches to a specific forum.
    Previous/Next links now have better spacing.


    Advanced search:


    There is now an "auto complete" instead of the long list for forum searching. Multiple forums can be selected.


    The same functionality has been added to the username selection.

    Autosuggest:


    We're experimenting with a new feature that works something like Google's "auto suggest" - giving hints as you type in your query.


    Thanks

    Darragh


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    #40
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Darragh wrote: »
    If you switch to "newest first" when searching, your default searches will be "newest first" thereafter. This is set in your browser.

    Excellent.
    Darragh wrote: »
    Thread titles are now included in all search results.

    Far better that way.
    Darragh wrote: »
    There is now an "auto complete" instead of the long list for forum searching. Multiple forums can be selected.

    Superb, much more user friendly, was a nightmare to use the way it was.

    Only thing for me now is the vanity search issue as it would be nice be able to check when I've been quoted. Otherwise though, all changes much appreciated, by all I'm sure.


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    #41
    Hank_Jones
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    Is there any chance I can immediately see me posts in find posts?

    Seems to take ages for post to appear in "Find all posts by Hank_Jones" that are recent.

    I don't want to spend my time scrolling down through a thread I have posted a few times in.

    Sorry if this has been mentioned.


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    #42
    Sad Professor
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,678 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Thread titles are a huge improvement. Thanks guys.


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    #43
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    It won't return any results for anything in TCN. Not switched on?


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    #44
    RolandIRL
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,924 ✭✭✭✭RolandIRL


    Sarky wrote: »
    It won't return any results for anything in TCN. Not switched on?

    .
    Dav wrote: »

    - Is this able to search forums like tCN where there is no postcount? the old search wasn't able to, i think
    • tCN is not a searchable forum. Because we were getting skewed results, we have excluded some forums and any that were previously not indexed, remain so (Personal/Relationship Issues for example)


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    #45
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    That does make things awkward. And possibly more interesting.


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    #46
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,468 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Darragh wrote: »

    Results:


    Thread titles are now included in all search results.

    Very nice.
    Advanced search:


    There is now an "auto complete" instead of the long list for forum searching. Multiple forums can be selected.


    The same functionality has been added to the username selection.

    Excellent. One small thing I would suggest, for new users it can be hard to understand what exact forum they need for big forums such as Films, Television and Soccer.

    Example 1: I want to search the soccer forumm, I type in Soccer and I get a choice fo Sports > Soccer, Soccer>Soccer and a couple of others with Soccer in the name.

    Example 2: Film. I get the choice of Arts> Films, Films>Films and a few other Film related forums.

    Example 3: Television - choice between Arts>Television and Television>Television

    Even I can't quite figure out why some forums are classed as sub-forums of other forums with the same name although I know they are and where to look in the above cases. I fear newer users will be lost.

    If possible, remove forums (eg. Arts>Films) from the list if they can't contain posts directly in the forum.


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    #47
    sentient_6
    Registered Users Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭sentient_6


    Couple of questions that might be better to add here rather than create a new thread(i've read through the thread but excuse me if iv accidently skimmed over the answer):

    When i search & click on the thread title in the results its sends me to some random post deep within the thread rather than to the start of the thread? Kinda annoying to keep having to go back to the start. Anyway to go straight to the begin of a thread from the search results?

    Dav wrote: »
    - Search for all threads I have posted on and see what has had new posts (and which are most recently updated) since I was last on boards - I use advanced search, enter my username in author and select show results by threads. I cannot get this information from the new search
    • You can't do this through the new search however this functionality exists with the site by visiting "My Threads" in your User Control Panel. You can click the “Follow Thread” button to add a thread you have not posted in to your “My Threads” list.

    Will ye be keeping access to the old search so ill still be able to do the above without doing the messy sounding My Threads thing?


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    #48
    RolandIRL
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,924 ✭✭✭✭RolandIRL


    Would it be possible to add a feature where you can see which threads you've posted in directly from the search results? with the old vB search there was the little arrow on the envelope icon.


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    #49
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,468 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Am I doing something wrong or is it (still) impossible to find
    All threads started by poster X on forum Y ?


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    #50
    Dymo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Dymo


    I noticed the the search was changed but I thought it was a mistake waiting to be fixed! I didn't thinks that it was purposely borked by development. I meant to start on a new thread wondering when it will be fixed. I found the google results to be very good and I have been going to google to search threads in boards.ie since the big change because the search on the site worked so bad.

    I'm getting results back from 9 years ago when I was looking for an up to date topic. Results are all over the place. Best of luck with the development but when there was an excellent search available why try to invent the wheel.

    Anyway to have 2 options, Googles and Boards ?


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    #51
    Morag
    Registered Users Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭Morag


    The old search was the vbulletin built in search and wasn't created to deal with the massive data base board.ie has become. It had gotten to the stage that the size of the database and the number of people using that old search at peak times could have made the site fall over, resulting in a fair chunk of down time each time it happened.

    So a new search function had to be created from scratch which would not cripple the database, yes personally I got to say I think the functionality suck compared to the old search and it's doesn't return info in the same way, but it seems the options were having the site fall over frequently or no search at all or having to write a new search.

    Hopefully the new search can be tweaked and more of the type functionality which people have gotten used to can be added into it over time.


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    #52
    Dymo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Dymo


    Sharrow wrote: »
    The old search was the vbulletin built in search and wasn't created to deal with the massive data base board.ie has become.

    I was under the impression that the old vbulletin built in search was gone a long time and was replaced with the Google search and now we are using the new search.


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    #53
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Dymo wrote: »
    I was under the impression that the old vbulletin built in search was gone a long time and was replaced with the Google search and now we are using the new search.

    You can still use the old search (for the time being at least).

    Just right click on the 'search' at the top of each page when selecting it.


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    #54
    Ross
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭Ross


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    You can still use the old search (for the time being at least).

    Just right click on the 'search' at the top of each page when selecting it.

    It's also currently the only way of doing a vanity search and finding posts where you may have been quoted.

    This is incorrect, you can easily find posts where you have been quoted simply by putting your username in quotes into the search.

    http://www.boards.ie/search/?q=%22OutlawPete%22


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    #55
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Ross wrote: »
    This is incorrect, you can easily find posts where you have been quoted simply by putting your username in quotes into the search.

    http://www.boards.ie/search/?q=%22OutlawPete%22

    Apologies, wasn't aware that the addition of quotation marks would do that.

    Nice one, cheers .. will edit my post.


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    #56
    nesf
    Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    I really miss old search being the default. I know why it had to change but honestly, just cannot bring myself to like the new version.


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    #57
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,468 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Ross wrote: »
    This is incorrect, you can easily find posts where you have been quoted simply by putting your username in quotes into the search.

    http://www.boards.ie/search/?q=%22OutlawPete%22

    Ross, is there any workaround to the problem of trying to find e.g. "that thread I started on feedback on the new search fuction" without knowing the title?

    BTW, that's just an example; there is no such actual thread.


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    #58
    Ross
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭Ross


    Not in Feedback, The Cuckoo's Nest, etc, but that will likely be changing soon.


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    #59
    Hank_Jones
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    Wish I was able to find my post in All Posts By soon after I post them.

    With the old search they showed up immediately, but now I'm waiting 15 minutes+.


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    #60
    Morag
    Registered Users Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭Morag


    The new search pulls from a mirror copy of the live data base and that's the update window. This way we don't have the 3am back up and won't loose a days post and the live database doesn't get slowed down with search requests, but the down side is there is a lag, but it's that that bad.


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    #61
    The Big Red Button
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭The Big Red Button


    Strange thing just happened!

    Someone mentioned something about a recent post of mine. I wanted to check what I'd been posting recently, so I clicked onto my account and went to "Find all posts by chatterpillar". Was pretty shocked when the search displayed that I'd posted in the Parenting forum the following:
    Your looking men who will give handjobs to guys with the runs?
    I have attached a screenshot just in case this isn't showing up when other people look!

    When I clicked into the post, it was an innocent comment in response to another poster:
    Eva is 44 and Eabha is 55
    OK, I know it's kind of amusing. But, to be honest, I find it extremely worrying that something like this could happen? I mean, say if my employers or family or something were to see that? How would errors like this happen?


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