Dogs are so overrated

ejmaztec

ilovesleep wrote: »

I love dogs. Especially boxers dogs.

Whenever I see a dog i love like a boxer or king charles, i go to them, pet them and might give them a kiss. They always return the favour with licks.

Can you imagine humans acting that way? I would be greeted with a smack if i was to walk up to a hot stranger and kiss him.

I wouldn't call that a favour, not after it's licked every dog's arse in the neighbourhood.

I've a fairly strong dislike for dogs as pets.... They're fine but I'd need to get to a very bored stretch in life to ever get one.

I've eaten dog before.. It's actually grand and was probably the most joy I got out of them in the last five years.

Wibbs

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

We don't require anything from each other except the bare minimum, with the occasional bonuses. It's the perfect relationship.

This is why I avoid excessively "catty" women as a point of principle. You can tell a lot about a person by the traits they project onto animals. And it is projection. I've known excessively needy cats, that went doolally when the owner was out of sight. Hell I've know two high rise apartment cats that freaked out if brought outside at ground level. I've also known very standoffish dogs and disloyal dogs. It's not the species, it's the individual animal, but most of all the owners projected personality.

Though no matter what ones opinion on the two species, dogs are by far and away the most useful to humans.

Me I like wolves.

biko

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Cats are so much better. Dogs smell, they are the biggest attention-seekers of all time and can barely look after themselves. Cats, on the otherhand, are low maintenance, independent and don't stink to high heaven.

Dogs are high maintenance, cats are low maintenance. I like it

ilovesleep

Deleted User wrote: »

I've a fairly strong dislike for dogs as pets.... They're fine but I'd need to get to a very bored stretch in life to ever get one.

I've eaten dog before.. It's actually grand and was probably the most joy I got out of them in the last five years.

You ate dog meat! thats awful. I could never imagine a dog ending up on plate. Mince or mutton or any other type of meat on the menu could have done you but dog?

Poor Craythur

Wibbs wrote: »

This is why I avoid excessively "catty" women as a point of principle. You can tell a lot about a person by the traits they project onto animals.

This is complete balls. Cat-loving people aren't all alike and often share few traits even. :rolleyes: Such a stereotype. Judging people on their pet preferences, whatever next?

EDIT: And whilst you may occasionally find a needy cat, they are very rare indeed.

hondasam

meow saucer of milk for the cat people

Poor Craythur

ilovesleep wrote: »

You ate dog meat! thats awful. I could never imagine a dog ending up on plate. Mince or mutton or any other type of meat on the menu could have done you but dog?

Why is it worse if it's a dog? Have you ever cooed over a cute lil lambie?

Poor Craythur

hondasam wrote: »

meow saucer of milk for the cat people

Original. :cool:

ilovesleep

ilovesleep wrote: »

You ate dog meat! thats awful. I could never imagine a dog ending up on plate. Mince or mutton or any other type of meat on the menu could have done you but dog?

Meh... I ate cat aswell. It's all meat at the end of the day.
And there wasn't anything else on the menu.

hondasam

Poor Craythur wrote: »

Original. :cool:

It gave me a laugh :pac:

GLaDOS

lecker Hendl wrote: »

In fairness, when has a cat ever saved someone from a burning house. .

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Spunge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHXiGquzCOI

Fúck animals

Poor Craythur

Even as a cat lover, I do love this:

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/8878/catsduringemergencies.jpg

Wibbs

Poor Craythur wrote: »

This is complete balls. Cat-loving people aren't all alike and often share few traits even. :rolleyes: Such a stereotype. Judging people on their pet preferences, whatever next?

Nope, perfectly logical and quite informative IME. If you have a blank slate and ask someone to anthropomorphise and project onto said blank slate, in this case a pet, it does tell you something of their inner life. How could it not? If you can detach from absolutes cat/dog type thinking you'd likely see more easily what I mean. I'm not suggesting dog lover = one thing and cat lover = something else. I am suggesting that some traits may well be discernible. So someone who repeatedly points to loyalty in a dog clearly values this trait, either wishing it for themselves or in those around them. Those who point to independence clearly value it similarly. It can also mean those people have neither in their own lives so project that onto the animal they chose to have around. Loyalty or whatever by proxy. EG weak man with large pitbull dog. It tells you something. In my experience I have found very "catty" women to be more self centered as a general rule than ones who are take it or leave it types. Hence my original take that I would tend to avoid that type.

EDIT: And whilst you may occasionally find a needy cat, they are very rare indeed.

In your experience and how you perceive cats. Doesn't make it a fact. As I said high rise cats tend to be more needy and domesticated. Some cat breeds are more house cats and others are more field/wild cats. Similar with different dog breeds. Lap dogs that some vacant blonde bint shoves in her handbag are quite a different animal to a working sheepdog or hunting dog say.

Chardee MacDennis

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Cats are so much better. Dogs smell, they are the biggest attention-seekers of all time and can barely look after themselves. Cats, on the otherhand, are low maintenance, independent and don't stink to high heaven. My cat and I have a mutual understanding. She doesn't love me or anything, she just wants to be fed and given a comfotable place to sleep for 16 hours a day. I'm happy to provide this, so long as I don't have to wash her or bring her for walks or constantly play with her. Sometimes she brings me gifts in the forms of beheaded birds and mice, which is thoughtful, and I bought her a nice collar. We don't require anything from each other except the bare minimum, with the occasional bonuses. It's the perfect relationship.

So cats are for people that don't actually want a pet, good to know...

Kimono-Girl

but cats are sooo smelly to live with, you can tell within seconds of having your nose in their hallway if they have a cat.


where dogs are more messy (and thus if you clean up after them you'd rarely know a Dog was in their home)


cats also like walking all over you personal space, e.g tables, couches (where they dig their claws into you),laundry, bathrooms...etc


where (in my experience) dogs would sit by your feet, or go sleep in the hall, or their bed.

Poor Craythur

Wibbs wrote: »

Nope, perfectly logical and quite informative IME. If you have a blank slate and ask someone to anthropomorphise and project onto said blank slate, in this case a pet, it does tell you something of their inner life. How could it not? If you can detach from absolutes cat/dog type thinking you'd likely see more easily what I mean. I'm not suggesting dog lover = one thing and cat lover = something else. I am suggesting that some traits may well be discernible. So someone who repeatedly points to loyalty in a dog clearly values this trait, either wishing it for themselves or in those around them. Those who point to independence clearly value it similarly. It can also mean those people have neither in their own lives so project that onto the animal they chose to have around. Loyalty or whatever by proxy. EG weak man with large pitbull dog. It tells you something. In my experience I have found very "catty" women to be more self centered as a general rule than ones who are take it or leave it types. Hence my original take that I would tend to avoid that type.

TBH, I think it was a bullet dodged for those women. Yes, many people identify with particular animals but to avoid someone you may be interested in because of that - eek. Says a lot more about you, I think. The human species in general tends to be a bit selfish, IMO, it's not just the preserve of cat-lovers. I love cats not just for their independence but because they are beautiful, graceful animals.

In your experience and how you perceive cats. Doesn't make it a fact. As I said high rise cats tend to be more needy and domesticated. Some cat breeds are more house cats and others are more field/wild cats. Similar with different dog breeds. Lap dogs that some vacant blonde bint shoves in her handbag are quite a different animal to a working sheepdog or hunting dog say.

Sigh, did I say it was a fact? I have owned many cats down the years, very few were needy.

Poor Craythur

Kimono-Girl wrote: »

but cats are sooo smelly to live with, you can tell within seconds of having your nose in their hallway if they have a cat.

What? Dogs IME are much smellier animals.

hondasam

I have dogs and cats but the cats are not in the house, the only come to the door when the know there is food. I do prefer dogs.

Wibbs

Poor Craythur wrote: »

TBH, I think it was a bullet dodged for those women. Yes, many people identify with particular animals but to avoid someone you may be interested in because of that - eek. Says a lot more about you, I think. .

How? It simply says that such traits that someone may over identify with would not be compatible with me(or me with them for that matter). Not really an objective value judgement, just my subjective one. I'm not attracted to large breasted women either, doesn't mean there's anything wrong with said women. Just not my bag. Sorry but IMHO you're projecting your internal worldview all over this thread. Ironically backing up my original opinion.

Sigh, did I say it was a fact? I have owned many cats down the years, very few were needy

Self focus again... I quote:

And whilst you may occasionally find a needy cat, they are very rare indeed.

That's a global statement about cats. What you were actually saying and confirming with your last post is that the cats you've owned weren't needy. That your experience of your cats can be applied globally to cats in general. You appearing to take this to heart about cat people, IE you and coming back with the oul snide digs also plugs into this. Like I said self focused. Hey whatever floats your boat.

PS you know you can have a bit of craic or a debate without getting into snide remarks, nay catty ones about bullets dodged and all.

PPS excessively doggy people would put me off as much as catty people. I like some cats I like some dogs. They vary. Just like people.

jackiebaron

scouser82 wrote: »

Dogs are incredibly overhyped in society and popular culture. Anytime a dog does something good (such as rescue a family member from a burning house etc) the dogs always gets praised, it is always because it is such a "good dog". But when the dog does something bad, like bite an innocent passerby it is always the fault of the owner for not training it properly. The owner will always get blamed for bad stuff, but never ever praised for when he/she trains a dog well.

Also, any of the good aspects of a dog (being very social, playful etc) are always used as reason for why dogs are so great, but any of the negative traits of dogs (humping, drooling, constant neediness, barking for no reason, whining for attention etc) is always seen as the fault of humans for "making them that way" over many thousand years of domestication. Its a joke, you have animal lovers going on about how dogs are loyal and they will never let you down while humans are apparantly the scurge of the earth, yet these people never actually bother to realise that dogs only have such good traits because of humans. We made them that way. They are only so loveable because of us.

It seems like dogs are in a win win situation. Do something good, get praised. Do something bad, deflect the blame to the human owner. Humans on the otherhand are in a lose lose. The dog does something good and you have dog lovers going on about how much better they are than humans. Dog does something bad and you have these same people giving out about humans for not being able to train them.

You cant have it both ways!

End of rant!!

I like dags. But they are ass-kissers. That's why the Chinese eat them. Cats are cool and sophisticated....that's why they are revered.

TBH I like both cats and dogs but for different reasons.

LETHAL LADY

Kimono-Girl wrote: »

but cats are sooo smelly to live with, you can tell within seconds of having your nose in their hallway if they have a cat.


where dogs are more messy (and thus if you clean up after them you'd rarely know a Dog was in their home)


cats also like walking all over you personal space, e.g tables, couches (where they dig their claws into you),laundry, bathrooms...etc


where (in my experience) dogs would sit by your feet, or go sleep in the hall, or their bed.

Agree with you on the smelly cats. My two children have asthma and when we visit with a friend who has cats whatever it is about cat odour it brings on asthma attacks for my children. I also find the cat smell repulsive and whilst I do like cats I would never have one as a pet.

Poor Craythur

Wibbs wrote: »

How? It simply says that such traits that someone may over identify with would not be compatible with me(or me with them for that matter). Not really an objective value judgement, just my subjective one. I'm not attracted to large breasted women either, doesn't mean there's anything wrong with said women. Just not my bag. Sorry but IMHO you're projecting your internal worldview all over this thread. Ironically backing up my original opinion.

Self focus again... I quote: That's a global statement about cats. What you were actually saying and confirming with your last post is that the cats you've owned weren't needy. That your experience of your cats can be applied globally to cats in general. You appearing to take this to heart about cat people, IE you and coming back with the oul snide digs also plugs into this. Like I said self focused. Hey whatever floats your boat.

PS you know you can have a bit of craic or a debate without getting into snide remarks, nay catty ones about bullets dodged and all.

PPS excessively doggy people would put me off as much as catty people. I like some cats I like some dogs. They vary. Just like people.

Ugh, sorry, my previous post was a bit harsh. I'll not edit it though, I'll just leave it be.

EDIT: Can't believe you wouldn't ever consider someone with physical attributes that aren't your preference though. Like, I as a rule don't like snake-hipped men but my first boyfriend was. I have preferences but sometimes the person and their personality and/or other physical attributes snuff out my preferences.

SECOND EDIT: I have worked in animal handling and different species do have common characteristics. Yes, there are differences between breeds but there are characteristics common to all.

Wibbs

We've been around dogs for a lot longer than we've been around cats. The ancient Egyptian kitty was a different sub species(more dog like I gather). So we're more likely to be allergic to them and have more disease issues with them. Not the cats fault mind you.

Same with cats climbing all over work surfaces. Like aggressive dogs are 9 times outa 10 the owners fault, same goes for that. I've know a fair few owners who wouldnt let the cat up on kitchen work surfaces form the time it was a kitten and the cat was cool about this. Cats aren't dumb and are well trainable. Well like dogs and people it depends on the cat in question. Some are as thick as posts.

Wibbs

Poor Craythur wrote: »

Ugh, sorry, my previous post was a bit harsh. I'll not edit it though, I'll just leave it be.

Ah no worries at all PC

EDIT: Can't believe you wouldn't ever consider someone with physical attributes that aren't your preference though. Like, I as a rule don't like snake-hipped men but my first boyfriend was. I have preferences but sometimes the person and their personality and/or other physical attributes snuff out my preferences.

Oh I've tried in the past but it just never took off. Not saying it never could, but generally I'm fairly black and white that way. That's just me though. Most are much more flexible.

Poor Craythur

I know, I've trained cats! And definitely against the kitchen counter thing.

Eutow

ilovesleep wrote: »

I love dogs. Especially boxers dogs.

Whenever I see a dog I love like a boxer or king charles, I go up to them, pet them and might give them a kiss. They always return the favour with licks.

Can you imagine humans acting that way? I would be greeted with a smack if I was to walk up to a hot stranger and kiss him.

That depends. If you are a man, then yes, but if you are a hot woman, such as Jessica Alba, you can do whatever you want. If you look like Anne Widdecombe, I'll have to release the dog.

Poor Craythur

jackiebaron wrote: »

I like dags. But they are ass-kissers. That's why the Chinese eat them. Cats are cool and sophisticated....that's why they are revered.

TBH I like both cats and dogs but for different reasons.

This is pretty much me. Like both but prefer cats.

K-9

Wibbs wrote: »

Me I like wolves.

Nah, foxes rule, a good combination between a cat and a dog.

cosmicfart

I had a cat once, it died it died mom said she was sleeping she lied she lied :mad: why oh why is my cat dead shouldnt I have bought a dog instead :eek:

twinytwo

i have a jack russell, she is freakishly intelligent. More so than a few humans i have come across. dogs rock

Aishae

i have 2 poochies and 2 cats - i also have a cockatiel thrown into the mix - what does that say to you about me?:cool:

i understand the projection thing though. my 2 dogs are completely out of their tree. the cats are on a saner footing and while jessie would have your chest in threads if you tried to cuddle her, picasso is a big lump of luxury plush cat. who goes and does her own thing (jessie prefers to sleep her days away - i share that desire!)

as for dogs being overrated - i dont think you can put the human rescuing on the same scales as scratching his arse across the rug etc. the ones that do the former are a bit on the rare side. but still most dog owners will say their dogs are loyal. most of us dont mean theyd drag us from a burning building and we are aware of their flaws (destroying anything shiny, in my house) but we look past it. as for dogs ATTACKING others etc. thats another kettle of fish again. thats behavioural and when you bring up a dog - just like with kids - you have to teach it well. so when a dog never got any training - as the owner couldnt be ars^d, then yes you can see why the dog is not the one that gets the blame

easyeason3

My dog is like a person, he tries to talk to me but just can't form the words so it comes out as a howl/ growl sound.
He's so cool words can't describe him.

Cats are sneaky. Cats are arrogant. Cats are so fcuking mean they bury their own ****. I think they may have come from Cavan originally but I can't back it up with hard evidence.

Poor Craythur

easyeason3 wrote: »

Cats are so fcuking mean they bury their own ****.

And this is a bad thing why exactly?

jimthemental

Dogs are the business. Got a new puppy today, he's a little legend.

easyeason3

Poor Craythur wrote: »

And this is a bad thing why exactly?

It just is.

Wibbs

K-9 wrote: »

Nah, foxes rule, a good combination between a cat and a dog.

Personality wise wolves are more like what people think of how cats are. Foxes are a bit scatter brained. My great uncle had one as a "pet", but the pet word was a stretch. Actually he was cool around him. Like a lapdog actually, but was vicious as hell around anyone else. Unpredictable too. Very like a cat as he would bugger off during the day on his rounds and then back in the evening. Like I say around him(and the aunt) he was grand. The pair were inseparable. Lived to be nearly 9. Died weeks after the uncle did.

Poor Craythur

easyeason3 wrote: »

It just is.

Worse than leaving the shít exposed like a dog would?

Cupcake_Crisis

I have 2 dawgies and they're awesome. I'm an animal person in general, always have a pet of some description. I dont think they're over rated, they can be great company. One of mine is lying beside me right now, keeps lickin my hand...making it quite difficult to type actually....

Wibbs

Yea cat or dog, hell budgie, snake, lizard, gerbil or goldfish:) they all can be great company and we can be good for them too. Hell I have turtles that follow me around and one will happily snooze on this endothermic mammal soaking up my steak and chips converted to heat. Freeloading shelled bastard.

Poor Craythur

Cupcake_Crisis wrote: »

I have 2 dawgies and they're awesome. I'm an animal person in general, always have a pet of some description. I dont think they're over rated, they can be great company. One of mine is lying beside me right now, keeps lickin my hand...making it quite difficult to type actually....

That's a major minus point against dogs for me - the licking.

Although...

very rarely, my cat will decide to "clean" my hand, whilst looking up at me lovingly. Equally disgusting, TBH.

Another cat had a toe fetish, would gnaw on my toes.

Galway K9

Woof!!!!!!!

Cupcake_Crisis

Poor Craythur wrote: »

That's a major minus point against dogs for me - the licking.

Although...

very rarely, my cat will decide to "clean" my hand, whilst looking up at me lovingly. Equally disgusting, TBH.

Another cat had a toe fetish, would gnaw on my toes.

Awh, both my dogs are lick crazy. I dont normally like it, but its great if i have cold hands or feet, little warm tongues!

I always freak my dad out by giving them little kisses on the nose. He HATES it, repulses him actually. I honestly dont see a problem with it.

K-9

Wibbs wrote: »

Personality wise wolves are more like what people think of how cats are. Foxes are a bit scatter brained. My great uncle had one as a "pet", but the pet word was a stretch. Actually he was cool around him. Like a lapdog actually, but was vicious as hell around anyone else. Unpredictable too. Very like a cat as he would bugger off during the day on his rounds and then back in the evening. Like I say around him(and the aunt) he was grand. The pair were inseparable. Lived to be nearly 9. Died weeks after the uncle did.

Foxes are but they are very wary but so are Wolves, you've probably more chance of "taming" a fox than a wolf. Your great uncle did very well getting that far, a wolf would be a lot harder, much more pack animals whereas foxes are solitary.

Arctic Foxes, Arctic Fox Pictures, Arctic Fox Facts - National Geographic

The Arctic fox always wins me over! Beautiful animal.

Poor Craythur

K-9 wrote: »

Foxes are but they are very wary but so are Wolves, you've probably more chance of "taming" a fox than a wolf. Your great uncle did very well getting that far, a wolf would be a lot harder, much more pack animals whereas foxes are solitary.

Arctic Foxes, Arctic Fox Pictures, Arctic Fox Facts - National Geographic

The Arctic fox always wins me over! Beautiful animal.

I saw a programme a while back about the possibility of taming foxes and wolves. It was a lot tougher than they anticipated. Wish I could remember more about the programme, sorry!

easyeason3

Poor Craythur wrote: »

Worse than leaving the shít exposed like a dog would?

Well at least you can see where it is so you can pick it up. For anyone with small kids it could be dangerous to have a cat wandering in & taking a dump in a sand pit/ clay if the kids were fond of a bit of digging in the dirt.

K-9

Poor Craythur wrote: »

I saw a programme a while back about the possibility of taming foxes and wolves. It was a lot tougher than they anticipated. Wish I could remember more about the programme, sorry!

I was watching deadly 60 on CBBC with the wee lad, (my excuse), both very crafty, but Wolves are very wary, their leader has to suss out the storey and go from there, very wary animals. You really have to gain their trust and act subservient.

Arctic foxes are different again. No packs, hunt lemmings and things like that. Unless he's starving you'll never see an Arctic fox or indeed a normal fox. And then they do as animals do.

Senna

OP you do realise you could replace "dog" with "Child" in your post and make the exact same argument against "children".

Catsmokinpot

Pauleta wrote: »

Cats are far superior. Dogs have pretty much turned into scavengers whilst even domestic cats can still hunt.

Tell that to my terrier. Cat's aren't superior, they aren't smarter, they are just more independent and wild.