The Great 2011 PSN Outage Megathread *Post 1 updated*

Daemos

It just dawned on me that this feels exactly like Die Hard 4. Especially with the wonky traffic lights outside my house. Quick, someone call Bruce Willis.

Daemos

Motley Crue wrote: »

and if you're a PS3 owner you get your choice of 3 games from 5 (undisclosed currently) to download once you're back online

2 from 5, not 3

Leeg17

2 from 5 yea

donalg1

Motley Crue wrote: »

No



Fair enough, did you jump ship when it happened or are you just a Microsoft man from day one?



Playstation Plus for a month, a year's free personal protection security software, an update, an apology email/statement and if you're a PS3 owner you get your choice of 3 games from 5 (undisclosed currently) to download once you're back online. PSP is the same, expect it's 2 games from 4 (again nothing about the title selection yet)

Soon is not the word.

Feels like waiting for Chinese Democracy to be released:D

No i have been with Xbox from day one, but jeez its nearly worth not playing COD for a couple of months to get all that free stuff

Benzino

Azure_sky wrote: »

I appreciate that it takes time to do it right but it is really annoying when they give out these deadlines and keep on missing them. I just want log into PSN so I can activate my other account.

Giving accurate deadlines for when a new system is ready is very difficult to do, if not impossible (in my experience anyway). Even more so in this case. Sony are no doubt running lots and lots of tests on their new software (if that is even finished yet). If one of those tests fails, they have to fix the problem and do all the tests again (tests can take an age, days in some cases).

So it really is difficult for them to give us an exact date. I feel sorry for the guys working on this I hope they are getting good overtime!

AIR-AUSSIE

Benzino wrote: »

Giving accurate deadlines for when a new system is ready is very difficult to do, if not impossible (in my experience anyway). Even more so in this case. Sony are no doubt running lots and lots of tests on their new software (if that it even finished yet). If one of those tests fails, they are to fix the problem and do all the tests again (tests can take an age, days in some cases).

So it really is difficult for them to give us an exact date. I feel sorry for the guys working on this I hope they are getting good overtime!

Then don't give deadlines! Simple as. Sony should stop giving their customers the run around, like they have from the outset.

Benzino

AIR-AUSSIE wrote: »

Then don't give deadlines! Simple as. Sony should stop giving their customers the run around, like they have from the outset.

But then people will be complaining about not giving any indication as to when the system will be live.

They are damned if they do and damned if they don't to be honest.

Beefy78

Varik wrote: »

PCI is industry self-regulation.

You only need to be PCI compliant if you want to do business with these card companies, but large companies who would be doing large amounts of business can ignore it as the banks would loose out if they weren't able to sell stuff.

It's industry self-regulation but on the part of the card schemes themselves rather than the individual banks. It's also industry regulation backed up by the potential for substantial fines. All of the card schemes are members of the PCI Council meaning that the power is in their court as opposed to a big company being above the industry self regulation. A huge company can threaten to move banks but they need to be able to take one card type or other.

From the information I've had, Sony were (to their understanding) fully PCI Compliant and had had their independent QSA had signed off on their most recent review.

SeanQCitizen

Azure_sky wrote: »

Still no services back yet? This is turning into a total farce. Bill Gates and Shigeru Miyamoto must be having multiple orgasms by now.

Turning?! It "turned into" weeks ago. Now it's just laughable.

SeanQCitizen

AIR-AUSSIE wrote: »

They're are some advantages to having your email freely available... I'm getting all these great business propositions from African business men..

Reminds me of an old but great story. It is not a short story so only bother if you are bored and have nothing else to do. You know, like a global meltdown of all multiplayer on one system for a prolonged period of time.

http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/

brian plank

donalg1 wrote: »

No i have been with Xbox from day one

i love when people say things like this or 'im moving to xbox'. stop thinking your employed by microsoft some how, you haven't 'been' anywhere or 'moved' anywhere. you bought a console and your playing it.

SeanQCitizen

donalg1 wrote: »

No i have been with Xbox from day one, but jeez its nearly worth not playing COD for a couple of months to get all that free stuff

No. it's not.:mad:

Grayditch

I'd be wary of entertaining donalg1's questions after his troll attack a few days ago.

kin9pin

SeanQCitizen wrote: »

Reminds me of an old but great story. It is not a short story so only bother if you are bored and have nothing else to do. You know, like a global meltdown of all multiplayer on one system for a prolonged period of time.

http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/

I was bored and it was a great story. Gonna tell my mate about it tonight while we play Battlefi.......................oh bugger!

jimbob86

MarkY91 wrote: »

you do know you can play it offline im sure

Yea but whats the point its crap if ur not online...unless your a ten year old

keithc83

Benzino wrote: »

But then people will be complaining about not giving any indication as to when the system will be live.

They are damned if they do and damned if they don't to be honest.

I don't think most people would complain if from the outset they told us what had happened and what they were doing. Its obvious now that they are rebuilding the network which is why its taking so long. And anyone in the know would realise how long doing something like that takes with building, testing, etc.

For me as long as its working when it comes back i don't mind when that is. Its the shabby way Sony treated its customers at the start with the false information being given out and unattainable deadlines. If they didn't know what was wrong why lead us all on?
Honesty goes a long way.

SeanQCitizen

Grayditch wrote: »

I'd be wary of entertaining donalg1's questions after his troll attack a few days ago.

excuse my noobness but what is a troll attack?


hehehe, noobness:P

tok9

Just wondering, When was the last statement Sony gave?

Not the worst time to be doing exams!

Varik

keithc83 wrote: »

false information being given out and unattainable deadlines. If they didn't know what was wrong why lead us all on?
Honesty goes a long way.

Was there more than the deadlines.

Desire.

tok9 wrote: »

Just wondering, When was the last statement Sony gave?

Not the worst time to be doing exams!

Tuesday. They just said they were sorry and they are working hard on fixing the PSN and they don't know when it will be back.

I agree... :pac:

keithc83

Varik wrote: »

Was there more than the deadlines.

Lack of information being given at the start and the deadlines i think were the issue. I know they are trying to do all they can now to fix their issues but i can understand why people got so angry with them. All they needed to do was tell people what had happened, what they were going to do about it and that they did not know how long it was going to take.

WolfForager

Reports of alot of internal testing going on.

Someone played Killzone3 this morning:

http://www.killzone.com/kz/mykillzone.psml?kz_user_id=walmart45#recentmatches

Soccom 4 servers were updates yesterday:

http://www.examiner.com/ps3-in-chicago/socom-4-stats-updated-internal-psn-testing-going-on

Someone also played LBP2:



Gentlemen! Prepare your bodies....

Micky Dolenz

It's close, I can smell it.

Oh hang, thats my dinner burning, crap.

Tallon

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

It's close, I can smell it.

Oh hang, thats my dinner burning, crap.

Thats the RROD's you can smell :pac:

SeanQCitizen

Tallon wrote: »

Thats the RROD's you can smell :pac:

Don't even joke about that. My internet went down for 2 weeks about a month before this outage and I am already on my second PS3. I'm close to breaking point here.

Notorious97

So its official yes? Its back Tomorrow :D

I bleedin wish :pac:

As long as the tests go fine, and no as*hole hacker comes along, lets hope we are close!!!

shinzon

in all honesty sony can do all the internal checking they want, they can double check triple check everything but until there new security measures are tested in a live enviroment where it will be tested in full by foul means or fair then unfortunately it means nothing

Shin

WolfForager

shinzon wrote: »

in all honesty sony can do all the internal checking they want, they can double check triple check everything but until there new security measures are tested in a live enviroment where it will be tested in full by foul means or fair then unfortunately it means nothing

Shin

I'd say this is less security and more making sure that all the games work with it.

Desire.

Either way, it's a good sign.

jimbob86

Rite den if its not back on 2moro im gona kick the fcuk outa my ps

SeanQCitizen

Well one of the moderators said he could smell it in his dinner, or something, and using the same interpretation rules laid out by others in this thread I'm taking that to mean he gives his personal guarantee that it will all be up and running and alright in 3........2........1.....................b@stard.

Tallon

jimbob86 wrote: »

Rite den if its not back on 2moro im gona kick the fcuk outa my ps

Please video tape that!

Daemos

WolfForager wrote: »

I'd say this is less security and more making sure that all the games work with it.

Which is probably what started this whole mess in the first place :pac:

SeanQCitizen

WolfForager wrote: »

I'd say this is less security and more making sure that all the games work with it.

Remember this is the same PSN that crashed when the map packs for MW 2 came out due to every MW2 owner going on in a short period of time. That is going to be nothing compared to the rush when the world wide system comes online. They are going to have to stagger it BIG time. Should be fun. I predict it will come on, then crash, then on etc for a few days.

jimbob86

Tallon wrote: »

Please video tape that!

I swear to god i actually will and il stick up pics. My ps is makin funny noises anyway i need a new 1 and im just so pissed of with psn. If its not on by 12 o clock 2moro nite my ps is gona get it.

Tallon

jimbob86 wrote: »

I swear to god i actually will and il stick up pics. My ps is makin funny noises anyway i need a new 1 and im just so pissed of with psn. If its not on by 12 o clock 2moro nite my ps is gona get it.

Quoted for evidence

keithc83

jimbob86 wrote: »

I swear to god i actually will and il stick up pics. My ps is makin funny noises anyway i need a new 1 and im just so pissed of with psn. If its not on by 12 o clock 2moro nite my ps is gona get it.

Is it terrible i'm now hoping that it doesn't come back before then so i can see that?! lol

Varik

SeanQCitizen wrote: »

Remember this is the same PSN that crashed when the map packs for MW 2 came out due to every MW2 owner going on in a short period of time.

What was the first map pack and happened with Xbox not ps3.

SeanQCitizen wrote: »

That is going to be nothing compared to the rush when the world wide system comes online. They are going to have to stagger it BIG time. Should be fun. I predict it will come on, then crash, then on etc for a few days.

It happened for live as the demand was higher than expected, in this case they know how many people use psn.

SeanQCitizen

Varik wrote: »

What was the first map pack and happened with Xbox not ps3.



It happened for live as the demand was higher than expected, in this case they know how many people use psn.

Not saying it didn't happen on Live but the PSN shut down. You couldn't put funding into your account for ages and then PSN went down for a time, and getting an online game was patchy at best. Also I said MW2, I didn't specify a map pack.:)

Leeg17

jimbob86 wrote: »

I swear to god i actually will and il stick up pics. My ps is makin funny noises anyway i need a new 1 and im just so pissed of with psn. If its not on by 12 o clock 2moro nite my ps is gona get it.

I'll give ya e30 for it, go for a few pints to feel better?

jimbob86

Leeg17 wrote: »

I'll give ya e30 for it, go for a few pints to feel better?

Id get alot more satisfaction outa kickin it to pieces...and at least id no justice has been done!

SeanQCitizen

Also my limited understanding of such things suggests that it is not only the amount of users but the times they go on. We all know the PSN was able to cater for the 77(or whatever) million users. All I am suggesting is that if the system comes back on in one go it might find it hard to cope if 55 million nerds rush the system at once. Especially a new system. Is that not the case?

nathansredarmy

sony rats:mad:

WarZoneBrother

jimbob86 wrote: »

Id get alot more satisfaction outa kickin it to pieces...and at least id no justice has been done!

I felt the same way with Modern Warfare 2... Manys of times I was tempted to just smash it too pieces... But then, I just had to take the 20 quid for it ..

irish_stevo815

SeanQCitizen wrote: »

Also my limited understanding of such things suggests that it is not only the amount of users but the times they go on. We all know the PSN was able to cater for the 77(or whatever) million users. All I am suggesting is that if the system comes back on in one go it might find it hard to cope if 55 million nerds rush the system at once. Especially a new system. Is that not the case?

Well there are 77 million accounts, not 77million users, as a lot of people will have multiple accounts on their console, eg. normal everyday account, then an account to access UK/US/Japan store or whatever.

Yes the PSN can cope with all these accounts/users, but how often would every user in the world be on at the same time?? NEVER........so what will most likely happen is it will work the same way as Store Updates do....Japan/US will be first, then a day or 2 later it will be back online for us in Europe until finally Australia regions will get it!
So there wont be a big-massive surge of users in one go. That is until the new COD map-pack goes online

MarkY91

jimbob86 wrote: »

Yea but whats the point its crap if ur not online...unless your a ten year old

thats just stupid!

do you not got a friend to play it with or something :pac:

SeanQCitizen

MarkY91 wrote: »

thats just stupid!

do you not got a friend to play it with or something :pac:

If I had friends who would come around why would I pay 400euro for a PS3 and 55euro for fifa11 to play football with them when a football costs 10euro?:D

Varik

SeanQCitizen wrote: »

Also I said MW2, I didn't specify a map pack.:)

You don't have to, it Stimulus was the one that messed up to a huge degree with no one able to play on 360 and was release on the day the wallet messed up on PS3. Resurgence had some corruption problems but that was fixed fast enough.

SeanQCitizen wrote: »

Not saying it didn't happen on Live but the PSN shut down. You couldn't put funding into your account for ages and then PSN went down for a time, and getting an online game was patchy at best.

Some people couldn't add funds for the EU store on the same day Stimulus came out, it didn't take PSN down you could still buy the DLC and play games as well as everything else with the exception of adding funds from a credit card.

When it release on the 360 a month early it required a update to the game as something was wrong with it but live was not down.

SeanQCitizen

irish_stevo815 wrote: »

Well there are 77 million accounts, not 77million users, as a lot of people will have multiple accounts on their console, eg. normal everyday account, then an account to access UK/US/Japan store or whatever.

Yes the PSN can cope with all these accounts/users, but how often would every user in the world be on at the same time?? NEVER........so what will most likely happen is it will work the same way as Store Updates do....Japan/US will be first, then a day or 2 later it will be back online for us in Europe until finally Australia regions will get it!
So there wont be a big-massive surge of users in one go. That is until the new COD map-pack goes online

Point taken on users v's accounts. On the other bit though, that was my point/guess originally, about 5 posts previous. Still think it will be a big ask though as it's a totally new system. Or at least that is what everyone is expecting with all the delays. It would be really laughable if it was the same PSN that came back up, nothing new at all.

2smiggy

why would it be laughable if the same looking psn came back up ? i was happy with the last one. if they have it back working like before, with the new security running in the backround it will suit me just fine.