Vacuum Tankers

Bitten & Hisses

As posted in a previous thread, I am currently in the market for a new slurry tanker, 2000 gallons and upwards. I had more or less settled on the idea of a 2200 or 2250 gallon tank from any one of the Irish manufacturers when I saw this:

http://atkins.ie/farmmachinery/product_info.php?cPath=62_127&products_id=3069

The price is reasonable for the size of the tanker, but what exactly does "2008 model" mean? Would an 8000 Litre pump be a bit on the slow side for a tank of this size?

David brown

The price is reasonable for the size of the tanker, but what exactly does "2008 model" mean? Would an 8000 Litre pump be a bit on the slow side for a tank of this size?[/QUOTE]
2008 is old spec. the latest model i think has a 10000l pump.open to correction on this. agree with you about size of pump ie too small

pajero12

Have you the power to pull and stop that? Im sure you could manage to wait an extra 30 seconds when filling?

reilig

There would be nothing wrong with that. Its probably something that was on display somewhere.

longgonesilver

That looks to be much bigger than an 8000 L pump, all the tanks on the Atkins site seem to be 8000 L so probably typo. Doesn't matter anyway as it will suck no slurry without the hose between the pump and the top of the tank .

Bitten & Hisses

Thanks for the input lads. From looking at different tankers, it appears to me that the Major, Redrock, Abbey and Hi-Spec have the most robust chassis arrangements supporting the tank.
One other thing struck me: The Cross and Belmac tankers look identical in every way. A poster on BFF mentioned before that Belmac manufacture some stuff for Cross. Does anyone know anything about this?

stanflt

Bitten & Hisses wrote: »

Thanks for the input lads. From looking at different tankers, it appears to me that the Major, Redrock, Abbey and Hi-Spec have the most robust chassis arrangements supporting the tank.
One other thing struck me: The Cross and Belmac tankers look identical in every way. A poster on BFF mentioned before that Belmac manufacture some stuff for Cross. Does anyone know anything about this?

i bought a 2100belmac in jan-great machine, well balanced and easily pulled by 2wd nh tl90a. cheap at 9250inc vat-no trade in

KoNiT

There could have been design changes since 2008.

Thats an 8000 vac pump - Tank looks seriously clean.


What PTO shaft's going with it? haggle for shearbolt...

pajero12

KoNiT wrote: »

There could have been design changes since 2008.

Thats an 8000 vac pump - Tank looks seriously clean.


What PTO shaft's going with it? haggle for shearbolt...

What difference would the shaft make?

KoNiT

prefer to shear the bolt than damage the pump if material enters the housing, etc jambing the pump.

The new Battioni MEC 9000 vacuum pump is fitted with sliding flanges to prevent damage to the pump.

bob charles

I would consider it overpriced, I bought something very similar but galvanised,recessed,perfect wheels of a dealer for much much less but a little older. 8000l pump is grand for a farmers tank, unless your a busy person and 30s a load is considered vital lost time

Bitten & Hisses

bob charles wrote: »

I would consider it overpriced, I bought something very similar but galvanised,recessed,perfect wheels of a dealer for much much less but a little older. 8000l pump is grand for a farmers tank, unless your a busy person and 30s a load is considered vital lost time

That would be second hand in your case? The one I linked to is supposedly new, but an older model. I'm not interested in a used tank. Been there, done that.

THE LINK WALSH

An 8000 pump is the one to be going for on any tanker,almost all pump larger than 8000 have automatic oilers as opposed to the manual tap oiler on a MEC8000,the auto oilers are troublesome in the extreme,ever notice a fellas tank destroyed with oil all over the front and drawbar?,the auto oiler cant be reset and has a mind of its own,you will be topping up often.

The 10 or 12 thousand pump wont fill much quicker anyway,id doubt its even 30 seconds faster,if fill points were 7 inches instaed of 6 with a 12 pump it would fill in half the time.
That doesnt look a bad deal even if it is built in 2008,Major are pushing an Alpine range now,its a lower unit.Id prefer an Abbey over any other theyve a much better drawbar design with a full leaf spring across the front,it looks the most effective.

cjpm

Bitten & Hisses wrote: »

That would be second hand in your case? The one I linked to is supposedly new, but an older model. I'm not interested in a used tank. Been there, done that.

I wouldn't even spend money on a new one if it's not galvanised.


We've an ancient yoke, galvanised 1600 gallon, bought second hand about 20 years old and it's perfect. Grease it, fill it with oil and off you go.

David brown

THE LINK WALSH wrote: »

An 8000 pump is the one to be going for on any tanker,almost all pump larger than 8000 have automatic oilers as opposed to the manual tap oiler on a MEC8000,the auto oilers are troublesome in the extreme,ever notice a fellas tank destroyed with oil all over the front and drawbar?,the auto oiler cant be reset and has a mind of its own,you will be topping up often.

The 10 or 12 thousand pump wont fill much quicker anyway,id doubt its even 30 seconds faster,if fill points were 7 inches instaed of 6 with a 12 pump it would fill in half the time.
That doesnt look a bad deal even if it is built in 2008,Major are pushing an Alpine range now,its a lower unit.Id prefer an Abbey over any other theyve a much better drawbar design with a full leaf spring across the front,it looks the most effective.

i have auto oilr for more years than care to remember and never let me down:D.is it possible to still buy 8k pump on 2k tank anymore?

Bitten & Hisses

One thing that is amazing me is the attitude of some dealers. I visit them, tell them what I want, they write it all down in the book and they don't bother their arse calling with a price.

bob charles

Bitten & Hisses wrote: »

One thing that is amazing me is the attitude of some dealers. I visit them, tell them what I want, they write it all down in the book and they don't bother their arse calling with a price.

maybe there not interested in dealing with you for any amount of reasons, I often had the opposite problem to you

vanderbadger

Bitten & Hisses wrote: »

One thing that is amazing me is the attitude of some dealers. I visit them, tell them what I want, they write it all down in the book and they don't bother their arse calling with a price.

typical! I was on a dealer website the other day and saw a clean looking mower, i send off an email and asked a few question, was surprised to get a prompt reply...no mention of price though, emailed back but no reply since..now maybe the guy thinks im not serious if i dont phone him but i cant understand why he would go as far as he did and not mention price or for that matter why do up a fancy website and not put prices of everything up..
I posted a thread about portal shed manufacturers recently, got a few suggestions and contacted a few people, so far 2 lads were supposed to call me but no word
you would think lads would be knocking down your door these times

Bitten & Hisses

bob charles wrote: »

maybe there not interested in dealing with you for any amount of reasons, I often had the opposite problem to you

Fair point, but unless there's something about my appearance which they didn't like, I can't see what it is. Experience so far has been:

Dealer 1: Rang back promptly with prices.
Dealer 2: Gave a price on the spot, said to take it or leave it.
Dealer 3: Gave a price on the spot, rang back with a better one, but still most expensive by a mile.
Dealer 4+5: Met both, they wrote down my details promised to call with prices. No callback from either.

reilig

When do you plan on making the purchase??

Evan28

its probably a machine they have kept for display. it looks very tidy in the photo

Nobbies

just a observation on the 10k litre pump.yes they will fill quicker.but,but,but,but there adevil 4lifting stones out of ariver or quarry hole if ur drawing water 4mixing and wat goes in must come out.hence sumtimes blocking ur splash plate.also when spreading much rev on the tractor and shes just dying 2 blow off with so much pressure.also ithink the bigger pump alot noiser too.small issues iknow.

Bitten & Hisses

reilig wrote: »

When do you plan on making the purchase??

Straight away as soon as I'm happy I've a good deal.

steve30

Go with the 10k pump and get a galvanised tank, will last a lot longer

flat out !!

In ideal conditions would a 10,000 litre pump fill a 2100 gallon tanker in less than 60 seconds? I timed my own 2100 gallon tanker filling earlier today, it took 2min 28 seconds @305 rpm, slurry wasn't too thick either. (8000 litre pump)