Euro Lotto Ticket Conundrum

El Horseboxo

A mate of mine is a manager in Tesco in Ashbourne and he said it's not their policy that you must buy a ticket printed in error. Said you have the option but must be bought before the actual draw. And also because she put in it in the till meant it was there for anyone to sell if someone came up looking for a 9 euro ticket. He said it's the same principle with phone credit printed in error.

Anyways why should she get the opportunity to buy a ticket after the draw when i can't walk in a few seconds after the deadline and buy a ticket.

Bruthal

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Anyways why should she get the opportunity to buy a ticket after the draw when i can't walk in a few seconds after the deadline and buy a ticket.

Well if you went into the navan tesco at 19:50 on that day, maybe you could of bought that ticket, even though it was after the deadline for buying a newly printed ticket.

Kimia

Are you all insane?? How can there even be a debate on this. She NEVER bought the ticket, it was NEVER hers, she tried to buy it AFTER the draw and she is entitled to fúck all.

There is no gray area here. Jesus, Id love to print out lottery tickets, not pay for them, and then after the draw go back and 'buy' the winning ticket. She's a moron.

Bruthal

Kimia wrote: »

Are you all insane?? How can there even be a debate on this. She NEVER bought the ticket, it was NEVER hers, she tried to buy it AFTER the draw and she is entitled to fúck all.

There is no gray area here. Jesus, Id love to print out lottery tickets, not pay for them, and then after the draw go back and 'buy' the winning ticket. She's a moron.

How many people happen to print out a winning ticket, then have it in their hands after the draw? Not many i would say. Have you ever been in the position?

What would you do in the exact same position? No doubt the perfectly honest and correct course of action like you no doubt practice in everything you do.

El Horseboxo

robbie7730 wrote: »

Well if you went into the navan tesco at 19:50 on that day, maybe you could of bought that ticket, even though it was after the deadline for buying a newly printed ticket.

Maybe. But if i went in at 20:00:01 they wouldn't have gave it to me. At that point Tesco owned it and would have been covering the costs for the discrepancy in tickets printed vs tickets sold. She had the same amount of time to buy it as anyone else. So why should she get the opportunity to buy it after the fact. And if all Tesco stores have the same policy as my mates store she was under no obligation to buy the ticket.

LimeTime

She has no right to the money. She can say she ''intended'' to buy it all she wants. I always ''intend'' on buying a winning ticket but so far haven't. She's just trying to buy e500'000 with e9.

Bruthal

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Maybe. But if i went in at 20:00:01 they wouldn't have gave it to me. At that point Tesco owned it and would have been covering the costs for the discrepancy in tickets printed vs tickets sold. She had the same amount of time to buy it as anyone else. So why should she get the opportunity to buy it after the fact. And if all Tesco stores have the same policy as my mates store she was under no obligation to buy the ticket.

She is in a no win situation if the shop has a policy of not making sellers pay for error tickets. But Ireland and its court oucomes can themselves be like a lottery even when it seems obvious to what the outcome should be.

Bruthal

LimeTime wrote: »

I always ''intend'' on buying a winning ticket but so far haven't.

Would you not try in the same situation though?

eiresandra

robbie7730 wrote: »

Would you not try in the same situation though?

I wouldn't. In fact, I'm really embarrassed for this girl going so public with this when she has no case whatsoever.

NomdePlume

I feel sorry for her and I believe she did really intend to pay for the ticket from the get-go. Yeah, you heard!

This girl selloptaped the winning ticket to her till, having drawn a face on it. Not something she'd do if she planned to sell it to a customer. I can't imagine handing over 9 quid for a lotto ticket and being given something that has sellotape and a smiley face on it. I don't think a shop worker draws on stuff they intend to sell...

Anyway, she ended up not paying for it, so the ticket never became her property. I do think she intended to buy it is all.

take everything

NomdePlume wrote: »

I feel sorry for her and I believe she did really intend to pay for the ticket from the get-go. Yeah, you heard!

This girl selloptaped the winning ticket to her till, having drawn a face on it. Not something she'd do if she planned to sell it to a customer. I can't imagine handing over 9 quid for a lotto ticket and being given something that has sellotape and a smiley face on it. I don't think a shop worker draws on stuff they intend to sell...

Anyway, she ended up not paying for it, so the ticket never became her property. I do think she intended to buy it is all.

So?
That's just a defence of forgetfulness.
And that's giving her the benefit of the doubt with regard to the argument of prior intent.
And that's apart from the issue of whether she had the right to buy it in the first place.

mudokon

I wonder if there would be a legality issue for Tesco selling her the ticket after the draw date? Providing of course that is the case.

Even if there isn't according to Euromillions rules, The National Lottery or any of the authorised agents may refuse to sell tickets to anyone with out giving reasons.

Taken from section 12-e on here.

El Horseboxo

robbie7730 wrote: »

She is in a no win situation if the shop has a policy of not making sellers pay for error tickets. But Ireland and its court oucomes can themselves be like a lottery even when it seems obvious to what the outcome should be.

Yeah if it came down to common sense she's not entitled to the ticket. But the Irish court system makes some bizarre decisions.

I think if it was store policy that you must buy the ticket that would have been the first thing outta her mouth instead of telling Ireland she stuck a sad face on it.

opo

Anyone who has ever worked with lotto knows this dilemma.

A ticket cannot be cancelled once printed if it is a quickpick. Why this is, is inexplicable to me when you consider that a ticket where the person chooses their own numbers may be cancelled.

Once the ticket is issued - the retailer has purchased the ticket from the lotto and assumes ownership until it is subsequently resold. End of story. The retailer has no comeback except for exceptional circumstances (printer broken - no ticket issued for example - where they cancel the ticket. Before the draw - naturally).

No policy that I know of can legally compel the shop worker to purchase a misprinted ticket - not least - becasue customers make errors too - for example - confuse lotteries - dates or amounts. Either way, unsold tickets cause cash differences and no-one relishes the inquest – retailer or staff.

It is a minefield. Most misprinted tickets are sold with little problem - however - odd combinations/amounts present problems.

My direct experience of this was shop workers leaving unsold tickets out and hope for the sale. Sellotaping to the machine being a reminder of such to all others. Some would purchase unsolds if they failed to sell. I would probably put a glum face on a ticket that failed to sell - knowing I would face the music.

IMHO - This girl is being led down a poisoned path by a bad solicitor. Based on my own experiences and gut instinct - I cannot wish her luck.

Bruthal

eiresandra wrote: »

I wouldn't. In fact, I'm really embarrassed for this girl going so public with this when she has no case whatsoever.

Does she not? Well its ireland, anything can happen in the courts here, i dont think she has a case myself. But i would not bet my house on it.

L'prof

I'd prefer to see a shop assistant claim the winnings than Tesco, but I doubt she has a leg to stand on or a job after all of this has finished!

sh1tstirrer

So if it had been a losing ticket she still had intended buying it the day after the draw, yeah right :rolleyes:

7sr2z3fely84g5

Update on ticket-
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/tesco-claims-euro500000-prize-at-centre-of-lotto-ticket-sale-row-2811026.html

A LOTTO cash prize of €500,000 at the centre of a dispute between a Tesco employee and her employer has been claimed by the supermarket giant.

However, as ownership of the winning ticket is in dispute, the money has been moved to a separate account until the matter is resolved.

Tesco worker Andrea O'Reilly (26), from Navan, Co Meath, accidentally issued a winning €500,000 Euromillions Lotto ticket to a customer and later claimed it as her own on April 1 this year.

She mistakenly printed out the €9 ticket, when the customer wanted only a €4 ticket.

Tesco says it wants to donate the money to charity. Ms O'Reilly intends to take Tesco to court to fight for the winnings.

She claims Tesco policy is that if an employee mistakenly prints off a Lotto ticket, he/she is entitled to pay for it, which she intended doing.

However, Ms O'Reilly says wasn't given this option when she went to pay for it the next day, unaware it was a winning ticket.

The National Lottery confirmed last night that the winning ticket had been presented and validated recently.

The deadline to claim the winnings would have run out today.

A statement said that as the ticket is subject to an ownership query, it had transferred the prize of €500,000 to an interest-bearing bank account.

mikemac

Total chancer
She tried to buy it the next day

You have to buy the ticket before the draw, not after it.
If it was a losing ticket would she be insisting on her right to buy it??

7sr2z3fely84g5

Hope they both lose and goes to charity.

Biggins

Ashlynn Slow Rocker wrote: »

Hope they both lose and goes to charity.

Tesco from the day after the supposed win, said they were giving the money to charity.

xoxyx

I went to buy a €3 Euromillions ticket today but was given a €2 one instead. The guy realised the mistake when I gave him the money and went to take back my ticket and printed me out a new one.

WELL, after the Tesco story, I couldn't let my first ticket go! So, I ended up spending a fiver instead of the €3 I had planned. I better bloody win this thing now!!

theboss80

Tomorrow I think I will intend to have chosen the correct numbers from tonights draw. Yay I'm going to be a millionaire

mikemac

Anyone know what time the draw closes?

Googled it, found nothing

johnmcdnl

well tesco would be quick enough to make the employee pay for it herself if it wasn't a winner I'd say...

xoxyx

mikemac wrote: »

Anyone know what time the draw closes?

7.45 to the best of my knowledge. Latest you can buy a ticket is 7.

mikemac

Just rang the local Tesco, 7:30 is the deadline

Curse my procrastination

eco2live

The ticket was paid for. By Tesco when the mistake was made. If she wanted it she could have popped the money in the till there and then.

Charity is the best option.

Sheeps

xoxyx wrote: »

7.45 to the best of my knowledge. Latest you can buy a ticket is 7.

It's 7:30 and the results aren't out until 9.

You can't cash a prize in until tomorrow morning if you win a small prize.

xoxyx

Sheeps wrote: »

It's 7:30 and the results aren't out until 9.

You can't cash a prize in until tomorrow morning if you win a small prize.

My bad. And to think that was the best of my knowledge.

Got to go read me some learning books.

Tipsy McSwagger

johnmcdnl wrote: »

well tesco would be quick enough to make the employee pay for it herself if it wasn't a winner I'd say...

I don't think she would have said anything if it was a losing ticket;)