Engineering at UCD is falling behind

Engineer33

Mechanical Engineering at UCD is the 4th best in the country based on Academic, Employment and Citation performance.

5th best for Electrical & Electronic

2nd best for Civil

http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2011/subject-rankings
Choose the subject and check for yourself.

Discuss.

DIT Student

ironclaw

Your college doesn't make you, you make the college. Likewise for your degree and thus your employability.

Makes no difference to me. We could be last but I'd still enjoy my course.

HavingCrack

ironclaw wrote: »

Your college doesn't make you, you make the college. Likewise for your degree and thus your employability.

Makes no difference to me. We could be last but I'd still enjoy my course.

That's slightly incorrect. It's blatently obvious that some colleges's have far better research, better lecturers, better facilites etc' than others. While it is clear that personal work plays a majority of what you get out of a course pretending there's no differences between the same course in different universitites is absurd. It's well known that different colleges are stronger in some subjects and weaker in others.

bnt

Look at the methodologies used by the QS and other surveys. I think they do have value, but only in the light of the metrics they're using. For example, the emphasis on Citations means that large and/or long-established universities or departments will have an advantage, simply because they have more papers out there to be cited.

Another example: why are there seven (7) branches of the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) in the top 200 Civil & Structural Engineering rankings? Probably because Employability is one of the major metrics they use, and Indian engineers are highly sought-after by companies who outsource work to India. Ireland simply cannot compete in the numbers game, and numbers (of citations & references) count for a lot in the QS methodology. (You can read this methodology yourself - they have a PDF document you can download with all the details.)

Killer Pigeon

To be exact that was for Mechanical, Aeronautical and Manufacturing Engineering. I'd say they averaged the scores for these 3 types and showed that it was a lower average than some other Irish universities. My point is, I don't think UCD really specialises in the likes of Aeronautical Engineering so that could have brought down the average - the score for Mechanical engineering alone would have probably been a lot higher.

TimeToShine

But UCD has a campus

muboop1

Engineer33 wrote: »

Mechanical Engineering at UCD is the 4th best in the country based on Academic, Employment and Citation performance.

5th best for Electrical & Electronic

2nd best for Civil

http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2011/subject-rankings
Choose the subject and check for yourself.

Discuss.

DIT Student

Well, DIT student, If you will go to following link
http://www.topuniversities.com/institution/university-college-dublin/wur

Now, whilst there, click on each year, and it will give you the ranking in each of the various departments.

You will notice that Engineering & IT in UCD is steadily on the rise!

UCD
2007: 243
2008: 196
2009: 182
2010: 144

Now...

Lets compare to DIT (http://www.topuniversities.com/institution/dublin-institute-technology/wur)
DIT
2007: 259
2008: 259
2009: 281
2010: 301-350


Now... This is completely opposite to what you are implying... But whatever... Ill leave you to it!

Engineering is on the rise is UCD but on the fall in DIT... Good luck with that!

muboop1

Sorry for double post...

Just to mention..

Trinity is ranked above UCD in Chemical Engineering... yet they don't offer it... I'd say those rankings are accurate?? they are not...

Raphael

Aaaaand done.