block vs timber frame
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07-04-2011 12:42pm#1
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Dont know why people are claiming block is better
People the world over,where the climate is far harsher than ireland have been building timber framed houses for years.
Particularly in Scandanavia when they build some of the most thermally efficent housing in the world
But eh yeah lets stick to tradition i guess:)0 -
Dont know why people are claiming block is better
People the world over,where the climate is far harsher than ireland have been building timber framed houses for years.
Particularly in Scandanavia when they build some of the most thermally efficent housing in the world
But eh yeah lets stick to tradition i guess:)
I suppose the fact that Santa land is overrun with timber is evidence of more bias, or more tradition or even both.0 -
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Most timber framed houses would be prefabbed in a factory.Basically your fella didnt have a factory so built it on site.Im sure its fine.:)themadchef wrote: »Ours is timber frame.
There are times i'd love the inner block if only for hanging a picture or heavy mirror.
The house is super warm though and i live on an elevated, exposed site. Stove heated with turf, stopped bothering wih the oil 2 years ago. This is where it pays for itself imo.
I still wonder about the guy who built this though. He came reccomended to us as he had built 3 or 4 houses in the area over a number of years. Other timber frame houses ive watched going in seem completly different.
This guy literally built if from scratch on site with the help of two Polish lads... Touch wood house is perfect, but i just think it strange how different the build was to others.
Anyway, if i had to do it over again, i'd pick timber frame every time.
As for hanging something just find the wooden stud and bang a nail in it
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Most timber framed houses would be prefabbed in a factory.Basically your fella didnt have a factory so built it on site.Im sure its fine.:)
As for hanging something just find the wooden stud and bang a nail in it
Cheers. He seemed like a decent fella, and the house hasint snapped in two yet!
Me use a hammer? LOL There's a thought. Could try it with a rolling pin i suppose. 0 -
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Dont know why people are claiming block is better
People the world over,where the climate is far harsher than ireland have been building timber framed houses for years.
Particularly in Scandanavia when they build some of the most thermally efficent housing in the world
But eh yeah lets stick to tradition i guess:)
The difference from scandanavia and Ireland are that in scandanavia the climate may be harsher, but it is consistant. in ireland its warm one minute wet the next sleet the next. each time it changes the timber moves,opens and closes. this causes for stresses and wear and tear on timber that doesnt happen in scandanavia. maybe there is someone out there who can explain it better but thats the rough jist of it.
I,m a carpenter myself but would never consider a timberframe. i'm putting concrete slabs in instead of joists. purely to avoid sagging joists, cracking ceilings, sound and even the fire rating.
i know theres pros and cons for both but personally think concrete.0 -
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..maybe you arethats my opinion, maybe im biased by tradition.
I agree that he may be biased, and that blocks are cheaper. But not betterDo you agree that Snyper is biased or that block is better
..Blocks seem more permanent than timber. I would worry the timber frame would get damp in the Irish weather.
Stove Fan:)
'Seem' that's some subjective measure alright. As for the damp: 2 simple questions for you : how would a TF get wet, and, speaking of timber.....what's your roof made of......??beyondpassive wrote: »I think its very easy to miss the biggest issue in Irish Building - Quality. Its very difficult to have a rational discussion on construction detailing, without encountouring staunch deep rooted beliefs that evoke extreme emotional responces. ..........
Quality is always the big issue, ........ The biggest cost factor after finishes is workmanship. This is huge,
Amen. Hallelujah. +1. etc etc.
In my experience, this market is nearly always price-led. Quality is not oftenr valued. In the UK, whilst value is always important, Quality is always on the agenda.Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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Yes, really. Very funny - there's always one :rolleyes:
Meanwhile back on earth in Ireland, which, last time I checked, is where we are......
Oh, and btw - pyramids are tombs - not buildings for living in.
And neither is the Great Wall, btw....
The picture of Dun Aengus is of the rampart wall - not a building, either.Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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