Warriors Run 2011

Mint Sauce

Flipping heck. Looks like me and Woody are going to have to step things up.

Hail 2 Da Chimp

Get a load of espresso's and red bull into you before the race :pac:

Mint Sauce

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

Get a load of espresso's and red bull into you before the race :pac:

Ugh. Will be puking before I hit the bottom of the Glen Road if I do that.

:eek:

woody1

i dunno, that 1:40 could be a bit on the soft side, then again it could be ambitious, its impossible to know without having experienced it before, as a few here have, i would always tend to be a bit careful when predicting times .. if the hill is dry then id hope to knock a bit off it going down , was fairly quick running down croagh patrick and the booster in castlebar but both have more defined paths than knocknarea, ran down hill on wet grass / heather on achill at the weekend and had no issues....dont want to blast down the hill and die on the road either, first time doing it i think the primary ambition is to run it in a reasonable-ish time and try to get back next year to be more competitive...
must have a look at the running order for saturday now, wondering what time to be arriving there for.. aim for 2 ish i suppose...normally an hour drive but will prob have to allow an extra 30 mins for traffic... never liked hanging about for ages before races..

Mint Sauce

woody1 wrote: »

i dunno, that 1:40 could be a bit on the soft side, then again it could be ambitious, its impossible to know without having experienced it before, as a few here have, i would always tend to be a bit careful when predicting times .. if the hill is dry then id hope to knock a bit off it going down , was fairly quick running down croagh patrick and the booster in castlebar but both have more defined paths than knocknarea, ran down hill on wet grass / heather on achill at the weekend and had no issues....dont want to blast down the hill and die on the road either, first time doing it i think the primary ambition is to run it in a reasonable-ish time and try to get back next year to be more competitive...
must have a look at the running order for saturday now, wondering what time to be arriving there for.. aim for 2 ish i suppose...normally an hour drive but will prob have to allow an extra 30 mins for traffic... never liked hanging about for ages before races..

I was orrignally looking at a 1.30, but was baseing that on my 5 (best 23min) and 10k (best 55min) times, unfortunalty dont think I could keep that pace over the warriors run distance and terrain.

Best time over the course (starting and finishing knocknerea in the car park) is 1.50. So hopefully the extra adrenaline on the day, more daring on the decent, plus the crowd will spure me on. As long as I start easy, slow, and dont worry about being passed out in the early stages, hopefully can get that 1.40 or quicker.

In relation to what time to be there for. If you dont collect your race pack on friday evening, then you would need to be down there before 2pm on saturday, bibs, chips, etc are to be collected between 6 and 8pm on friday, or 12 to 2pm on the sat.

More here on the schedule.

cloneslad

DULLAHAN2 1.25
irish-stew - 1.40
T runner 59'
dna_leri - 1:10
stampydmonkey 1.29
woody1 - 1.40
RunningForFun - 1.15
daveboy01 1.25
Hail 2 Da Chimp 1:15


Cloneslad 1:25 - Hurt my ankle getting tackled at rugby last night. I have it bandaged up at the minute and I drove down to sligo today. Hopefully it'll be okay by saturday.

Cool Running

Sounds like a lot of boardsies from this forum running. Best of luck to everyone. Cloneslad hope ya recover in time. Nice shout on your time T Runner, great to get under the hour. Stew id say ya might dip under the 1.40 with the adrenalin on the day.

Hopoefully it will be a nice day in Strandhill. Im looking forward to checking out the results and pictures on the net next week.

I seen Emmet Dunleavy is doing a lot of local races and winning them all as expected. Does anyone know if he is running? or what other contenders are gonna be at the start line?

T runner

Cool Running wrote: »

Sounds like a lot of boardsies from this forum running. Best of luck to everyone. Cloneslad hope ya recover in time. Nice shout on your time T Runner, great to get under the hour. Stew id say ya might dip under the 1.40 with the adrenalin on the day.

Hopoefully it will be a nice day in Strandhill. Im looking forward to checking out the results and pictures on the net next week.

I seen Emmet Dunleavy is doing a lot of local races and winning them all as expected. Does anyone know if he is running? or what other contenders are gonna be at the start line?

Hes running.

Other contenders entered are Eoin Gahan current champ but doesnt seem to have run much this year, and Barry Minnock: second last year.

There may be more that im not aware of.

Minnock may be the one to beat, if he runs, as he is an elite mountain running international and is currently on of the top road runners and track runners in the country from distances of 5k to marathon.

It may be Emmets turn this year though....A good few years since weve had a Sligo winner.

Re. time prediction.

I run this every year. Any year ive done well ive respected teh mountain and gone out easy. Im not usually in the top 30 at Kellys, thats the truth. The road to the mountain is only one quarter of race time. The fastest way to complete teh race is to go out conservative and keep your momentum going when it gets tough on the hill and after.

The big test in this race on the day is not the hill: Its what pace you run out to the hill. I went out 30 secs faster last year than in 2009. I finished up well over 6 minutes slower and in distress. Not worth it.

Mint Sauce

From top to the car park today in just over 6 minutes.

Kept the feet light, relaxed, a bit of skipping and jumping. Did feel the grip go a few times, but just kept relaxed, didn't tense up, and managed to stay on the feet.

Was sure I also got a few funny looks like 'who's that loon, running down the mountain, in his shorts, in the rain'

Although the two people who asked what I was up to seemed very interested and wished me well.



Roll on Saturday.

dna_leri

T runner wrote: »

Hes running.

Other contenders entered are Eoin Gahan current champ but doesnt seem to have run much this year, and Barry Minnock: second last year.

There may be more that im not aware of.

Minnock may be the one to beat, if he runs, as he is an elite mountain running international and is currently on of the top road runners and track runners in the country from distances of 5k to marathon.

It may be Emmets turn this year though....A good few years since weve had a Sligo winner.

Re. time prediction.

I run this every year. Any year ive done well ive respected teh mountain and gone out easy. Im not usually in the top 30 at Kellys, thats the truth. The road to the mountain is only one quarter of race time. The fastest way to complete teh race is to go out conservative and keep your momentum going when it gets tough on the hill and after.

The big test in this race on the day is not the hill: Its what pace you run out to the hill. I went out 30 secs faster last year than in 2009. I finished up well over 6 minutes slower and in distress. Not worth it.

I thought Barry was out or did I misread this: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=73953866&postcount=89

Hopefully Emmet gets the win but there is always potential for surprises.

@T runner: Is it a fair estimate to expect rough split times of 25% at start of off-road section, 50% at the cairn and 75% mid-way along Rathcarrick Road (around the big house) ? Appreciate all your inputs on this and other thread. Good luck on the day to all.

T runner

dna_leri wrote: »

I thought Barry was out or did I misread this: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=73953866&postcount=89

Hopefully Emmet gets the win but there is always potential for surprises.

I thought that too when he posted, but it wasnt his entry- he was acting for another Rathfarnham team member.

I believe hes very doubtful at this stage though through illness.



So Emmett or Eoin G of the runners we know. Im presuming there wont be many more of that caliber: probably none given teh way registration happenned.

So more than likely Emmett D or Eoin G and with Eoin not showing up in race results then Emmett must be favourite.

If Eoin is fit though, hes 2 mins faster than anyone else in the field, and hes tough as nails.

In the womens: one of the Rathfarnham withdrawals would probably have been race favourite. I would see it as possibly being a completly wide open race, like in 2009 when a woman from Belfast was stunned to win the €1000 special prize that year with a time of 75 ish.

@T runner: Is it a fair estimate to expect rough split times of 25% at start of off-road section, 50% at the cairn and 75% mid-way along Rathcarrick Road (around the big house) ? Appreciate all your inputs on this and other thread. Good luck on the day to all.

Thats right.

If youve paced it right the cairn should be slightly over half way in time. If youve gone out to hard youll still have most of the race to go unfortunately.

The 75% at the big house looks spot on. Usually at this stage youre not going to pass too many more people (mayne 1 or two) and its just a mental test of keeping the pace to avoid losing places

When you get down from the steep Moxies hill with just over two K, the first k is very flat. I usually try and pretend thsi is a training k on a good flat surface. Pick the cadence up and concentrate on running smoothly here. It takes the mind off things and when its over, the remaining distance is psychologically manageable. Running that second last k relaxed and fast is a real 6 pointer for mind and body. The remainder is pure torture but were not far from teh beautiful view of the finish then!

Mint Sauce

Tomorrows the big day. Good luck everybody whose running.

Hopefully we dont get a repeat of that heavy shower just now again tomorrow.

DULLAHAN2

I am hoping for an overcast day and the sun not to come out till after i finish the run

woody1

im sure we'll get some kind of rain, hopefully nothing heavy or sustained..
anyway best of luck to all

T runner

Good luck everyone!

stampydmonkey

Best of luck folks...

cloneslad

Ankle still strapped, back and shoulder covered in tiger balm and I can't bend / move properly, thanks rugby!!

Good luck to all tomorrow, I know i'm not going to enjoy it.

keithraymond

Good luck to everyone.

Hope it is a nice day for it, not too warm, with no rain. Hoping for a good time myself, Emmet Dunleavy for the win in my view he has been in great form the past few weeks and months. Heres a small diary of my training geared mainly for the warriors run with some other bits in between, some of ye might get a bit of reading out of it. See ye at the start! Boom!!!

http://keithraymondtrainingblog.blogspot.com

EverEvolving

Good luck today everyone, hopefully the rain stays away. Be interesting to see the times afterwards, last time I climbed Knocknarea it took about and hour up and down (we were admiring the view of course)!!

Mint Sauce

The weathers not to bad actully....




















































between the showers

Enjoy it everyone. Take care on that decent.

DULLAHAN2

Best of luck to everyone today should be fun!!!!!

Hail 2 Da Chimp

Best of luck to everyone running, all the preparation comes to fruition today!

See ye at the finish line.

UrbanSea

Good luck all. I'll feel so lazy sitting on my hole.

Cool Running

First time not being in Strandhill for the Warriors since 2004

Look forward to reading how everyone here got on

Best of luck

KEEP HER LIT

cloneslad

PREDICTION

cloneslad wrote: »

Cloneslad 1:25

Actual Time: 1:24:51 (not a bad guess)

Garmin time: 1:23:2? - There must be a prob with my garmin, is there any way to sync it? My cousin finished 30 seconds behind me and his watch showed a 2 min difference and was pretty exact to the official net time.


Quite happy with my time, I don't like hills and don't train on them so I can't expect to get a much better one without the work. I walked the majority of the first hill of the glen road, as well as the mountain, but ran everything else.

SPOOKY BIT:

My bib number (after a lot of confusion with my registration) was 278.
The race date was the 27th of the 8th.
My overall finishing place - 278th.

Hope everyone survived the run with ankles still working. Same time next year


Oh and I beat my cousin (overtaking him at Kellys, with 1km left, on the way back in) and also beat my brother too.....result!!

woody1

woody1
predicted 1:40
actual 1:29 , i did say it could be a bit off,
happy with that..

KayTee

Well done to all participants today, fantastic atmosphere at the finish line. Fair play to ye all!

stampydmonkey

Predicted time: 1.29
Actual time: 1.20

Very happy with that. 1st time doing the warriors and it was a great run and one of the best atmospheres I have come across. Great crowds all around the route and plenty of water (and sweeties), very very well organised.

Thanks to T runner for the advice in one of the last posts, didn't blast off from the start, just took it handy. Was feeling it after tearing down the mountain until the turn towards the finish line so reckon I would have been nailed but for the advice. Cheers.

Now for a few refreshments..whoop!!

DULLAHAN2

dna_leri wrote: »

DULLAHAN2 1.25

did 1.26 happy with that as i was quite drunk yesterday

Mint Sauce

Predicted 1hr40min

Actual 1hr30min ish

Was like a pig in s**t looking at my stop watch on the line, dispite lying flat on my back, gulping in air, and my calf cramping up something serious.

The massage afterwards was like a little peice of heaven.

Hail 2 Da Chimp

Predicted: 1:15

Actual: 1:15

Very happy with my time, as above a huge thanks to T runner for all the advice. Enjoy the pints tonight

dna_leri

1:04 v's 1:10 planned. Tough, enjoyed it but it was tough. Great atmosphere in the village too.

Lornen

irish-stew wrote: »

Predicted 1hr40min

Actual 1hr30min ish

Was like a pig in s**t looking at my stop watch on the line, dispite lying flat on my back, gulping in air, and my calf cramping up something serious.

The massage afterwards was like a little peice of heaven.

Wow Stew! Actually BEAMING for you on finding you got such a great time!

I was in work so forgot to log on and wish you luck but you certainly didn't need it!!

Hope you're having a nice relaxing day after that!




Everyone congrats on your amazing times!

It seems everyone got their predictions close enough and everyone happy with their times.

Hope ye're all having a mega lie in today!

keithraymond

Well done to all.
I ran 1.12.06 in a sprint finish with a mate, thrilling atmosphere coming in the road! Hair was standing on my neck!
Was hoping for 1.07 or 1.08..little disappointed! Just need to improve some aspects of training for next year to gain crucial minutes...on the flat and on the mountain.
When I was running yesterday I was wondering if ye guys were beside me...funny!
Looking forward to next year already!
:):):)

Conman1

keithraymond wrote: »

Well done to all.
I ran 1.12.06 in a sprint finish with a mate, thrilling atmosphere coming in the road! Hair was standing on my neck!
Was hoping for 1.07 or 1.08..little disappointed! Just need to improve some aspects of training for next year to gain crucial minutes...on the flat and on the mountain.
When I was running yesterday I was wondering if ye guys were beside me...funny!
Looking forward to next year already!
:):):)

I was running beside you for most of the mountain and for most of ransboro 10k and the horseshoe!

keithraymond

nice one man, i'd probably recognise ya so..how did ya get on yesterday? Mountain was tough Whats the name?

Mint Sauce

@Lornen. You have to do it next year.

Conman1

keithraymond wrote: »

nice one man, i'd probably recognise ya so..how did ya get on yesterday? Mountain was tough Whats the name?

Conor McCann is the name. finished 1:10:47.Delighted with it. Took 4 mins of my only other attempt. Was not expecting to do that as very little training compared to last time out. Was just behind you till maybe 300m from summit. The quads and shoulders are well hammered today. Not looking forward to the stairs at work tommorrow!

T runner

Did it in just over the hour.

Started very slow and gradually made my way through the field. Was working together with another boardsie here up until the cairn. Felt very good at this stage and ready to give the run home a good rattle. Started the descent well but lost my concentration about half way down the steep bit and my legs were fairly trashed by the bottom. I tried to speed it up going home but it felt fairly steady and was hanging on from about 2k out. Satisfied with the effort. Ive learned that i need to do more cyclcng or long runs with big descents to toughen the legs up so that i can run fast after the mountain. I was fit enough to really attack it home but the legs had all the speed knocked out of them.

Well done to all boardsies, everyone seems to have had good runs. I thought the conditions were good in that there was plenty of cool air around so overheating etc was never at issue. I think the times were generally good this year and its better to have a breeze even into your face going home, than a still muggy day with no air to fuel tired muscles late in the race.

The tent afterwards was definately the best ever. the band was brilliant (anyone know thir name they deserve a plug?) and the tent was rocking.

There was a traffic cone on the sign for the airport turnoff in Strandhill which was a good indication of another good warriors day and night.

Anyone reading who hasnt run this or maybe doesnt even run should consider it for next year. Very satisfying race and feeling to have covered the distance and crossing the line is a super feeling altogether. Very positive thing to do.

Mountain_Surfer

Absolutely chuffed with my race. It was my first Warriors and I hadn't run the course beforehand. Training consisted of four runs up Djouce in the two weeks prior to the race! My naivety told me that I was going to run the entire way up the mountain.... Ha! Got a serious reality check on the day. Did run all the way up through the first two fields then walked the steep bits and ran the not so steep bits (that werent single file) from there on up. Flew back down from the cairn but not having the miles in my legs was very evident on the 6km back to the finish.

Must say the support the entire way around was fantastic. I somehow managed to get enough strength together to leggit over the last 300m ish and the cheers were unreal. Sincere thanks to everyone involved.

Predicted/Estimated Time: 1.20
Wanted to be inside the top 30% - 40%

Bib: 684
Actual Time: 1.15.31
Place: 92nd



Rub down afterwards has worked wonders for the calfs but quads are fairly sore this evening. Well done everyone

woody1

some photos on http://www.legginit.com/albums/Warriors-Run-2011/
( free ) and jamesburke.biz 9 not (not free)

stiff as a board..still
found the hill very manageable, maybe even easy, but then with 400 odd people in front of you in single file it was hard to go any harder at it anyway... although i must tie laces tighter for that kind of thing if im doing it again..runners were nearly sliding off me at times..

thought right leg was gonna fall off on the 2nd last km and man that last straight is looooong ...

many thanks to t-runner for all the advice, particularly the bits on pacing the race ( although i may have held back too much maybe ) and on the times ie time at the gate would be quarter at the top half and at the big house three quarters..was bang on the money for me...

Lornen

irish-stew wrote: »

@Lornen. You have to do it next year.

Without a shadow of a doubt!

I'm back up and running now. Going to be WELL prepared.

:v

DULLAHAN2

After all the messing there was with the registration, site crashing and loads of people feeling disappointed that the missed out and some going on standby list's hoping to get an entry for this. Only 708 people lined up out of 800 with 705 finishers 2 getting DQ'D.

Do you think the registration was opened too early? I mean everyone that entered hoped to do the run but such is life might have got injured and never transferred there number or forgot to cancel there entry. Would it be a good idea for next year to open the registration closer to the time maybe a month?
so people will know for sure that they can make it so there is a full field

promethius

DULLAHAN2 wrote: »

After all the messing there was with the registration, site crashing and loads of people feeling disappointed that the missed out and some going on standby list's hoping to get an entry for this. Only 708 people lined up out of 800 with 705 finishers 2 getting DQ'D.

Do you think the registration was opened too early? I mean everyone that entered hoped to do the run but such is life might have got injured and never transferred there number or forgot to cancel there entry. Would it be a good idea for next year to open the registration closer to the time maybe a month?
so people will know for sure that they can make it so there is a full field

I did it, a great event and happy with my 1:19 bit quicker than last year :-)
You've asked a good question there and i think your point about later registration is very valid, however a lot of people want to know well in advance that they're in so they can get stuck into their training.

The only way i think they will actually have 800 runners on the day is if after registraion closes on race day, any remaining places are sold on the spot for cash.
And i know this is a logistically tricky thing to actually do (getting names linked to timing chips, t shirt sizes etc.....). But at least no membership of triathlon ireland or run ireland etc is required to take part.
However, the organisers aren't going to be too pushed since the 92 or whatever that ended up not doing it had already paid.

It must be a killer for those that missed out however to see the field not actually full on the day.

What does someone get a dq for in the warriors run by the way????

DULLAHAN2

promethius wrote: »

What does someone get a dq for in the warriors run by the way????

Not too sure, there is two people in the results with route error beside there name.

DULLAHAN2

promethius wrote: »

I did it, a great event and happy with my 1:19 bit quicker than last year :-)
You've asked a good question there and i think your point about later registration is very valid, however a lot of people want to know well in advance that they're in so they can get stuck into their training.

The only way i think they will actually have 800 runners on the day is if after registraion closes on race day, any remaining places are sold on the spot for cash.
And i know this is a logistically tricky thing to actually do (getting names linked to timing chips, t shirt sizes etc.....). But at least no membership of triathlon ireland or run ireland etc is required to take part.
However, the organisers aren't going to be too pushed since the 92 or whatever that ended up not doing it had already paid.

It must be a killer for those that missed out however to see the field not actually full on the day.

What does someone get a dq for in the warriors run by the way????

I know i would be raging if i didnt get a place and it wasnt full on the day. I suppose the organisers still got paid so they wouldnt be too pushed in trying getting more people to the start line on the day.

T runner

DULLAHAN2 wrote: »

Not too sure, there is two people in the results with route error beside there name.

They have no mountain splits so id guess they "refused" the mountain. Maybe one was feeling very bad and both just ran out the circuit of the mountain and reported to the organisers after crossing the line.

Or maybe they werent aware of the mountain bit..........

cloneslad

T runner wrote: »

Or maybe they werent aware of the mountain bit..........

we were supposed to go up that???? :eek::eek::eek:

AgileMyth

Don't be silly, what kind of race would make you run up a mountain!

Fair play to everyone from here that did it. Might get around to doing it next year. (Yes I said that last year too!)

ectoraige

I guess one thing the organisers could do to ensure more take-up of places would be to take the payment in two stages - say a €10 deposit when the reservation is made, and the remainder closer to the race.
They could send reminders to have people login and pay the balance maybe eight weeks before the race. Anybody who doesn't pay within another two weeks loses their place and it is given to somebody on the reserve list (who will pay full price).

This way they might weed out people who aren't committed to running it, and they'd raise a few more quid by keeping the deposits which might help offset the extra admin.