Most Overrated and Underrated Players Mod warning post # 732

Cill Dara Abu

Over: Aiden McGeady

Under: Paddy McCourt

Liam O

Doocey wrote: »

Darren Bent overrated IMO.

Underrated - Fabricio Coloccini.

Maybe a tad biased :pac:

Darren Bent is a great striker as is Coloccini a centre half imo.

jdooley28

Over

Bale
Clichy
Gerrard( I went there)
Walcott
Lennon
Henderson

Under

Meyler
brunt
Etherington
Faurlin
Walters
bardsley
Kevin Davies

Richard Hillman

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

Over: Aiden McGeady

Under: Paddy McCourt

He can only play against rubbish teams. In the LOI he was pants against the good teams and walked through the not so good teams. It looks like its the same in scotland. He played well against Shelbourne once in about 10 games.

G.K.

jdooley28 wrote: »

Under

Meyler

Simply because I don't know a thing about the guy beyond nationality, position and injury, can you explain him plz?

Duckytech

Over: Howard Webb.
Under: Video Technology. (For the FA at least):P

curry-muff

Richard Hillman wrote: »

He can only play against rubbish teams. In the LOI he was pants against the good teams and walked through the not so good teams. It looks like its the same in scotland. He played well against Shelbourne once in about 10 games.

Sorry, but thats absolute bullsh1t, how many of his games did you watch in the LOI?

I'm a harps fan but live quite close to Derry so usually go in for the big games, he was always the stand out player at any match I've been at, you clearly are basing this opinion on a couple of times you've seen him play Shelbourne.

everdead.ie

Ams begovic is underrated I think top keeper.

G.K.

Underrated - Martin Olsson

I think he's a very good player who could make it at most of the top clubs.

Reganio 2

G.K. wrote: »

Simply because I don't know a thing about the guy beyond nationality, position and injury, can you explain him plz?

I don't think he will ever get into like top 4 team but for someone like Sunderland he is perfect. Not afraid to put his foot in but can control the game when he has to. He could be a very important player for Ireland if he recovers well, and obviously Trap picks him. Although he is Trap's style player as he is a work horse as well.

Hopefully he recovers well from a horrific injury. He played for the Reserves recently, so he is on his way back.

Marty McFly

Nuts102 wrote: »

Overrated.

Charlie Adam
Gareth Bale
Vermalen
Gary Cahill
Jack Rodwell

Underrated.
Anderson
Nani
long
Enrique
Chris Brunt
Fellaini
Meireles
Ramires

Vermaelaen overrated seriously? Ok hes a sicknote but when he plays hes without a doubt oneof hte best CB,s in the EPL and would easoly get his game at most big clubs around Europe when fit.

Then to say Nani is underrated not a chance Nani is constantly getting flattering remarks thrown his way, even been named in the EPL team of the season last year and being nominated for young player of the year aswell.

curry-muff

I agree, Vermaelen is definitely overrated, I think he has just stood out as the star man in a poor defence, never impressed me in a big game.

As for Nani, he was underrated for a long time but now he seems to be getting the plaudits he deserves, I don't think he is underrated anymore, he will always be disliked but nobody can deny his talent.

Seaneh

Over rated:
Sammi Eto'o

Under rated:
Massimo Ambrosini

Giggsy11

Nani is surely underrated. When I talked to people following Serie A, they think Nani is still the same old very inconsistent, level below the likes of Krasic, Navas player.

He has improved a lot, this season he is getting plaudits from few TV pundits but it just started.

Crazy Horse 6

Overrated.. Anderson
Underrated.. Kuyt

gimli2112

over
Mascherano
Everyone who plays for England

Johner

Seaneh wrote: »

Over rated:
Sammi Eto'o

Not a chance. how is he overrated?

Brain Stroking

Seaneh wrote: »

Over rated:
Sammi Eto'o

/QUOTE]

Eh, Eto is one of the best strikers of the past 20 years

gosplan

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Nani is surely underrated. When I talked to people following Serie A, they think Nani is still the same old very inconsistent, level below the likes of Krasic, Navas player.

He has improved a lot, this season he is getting plaudits from few TV pundits but it just started.

Nah, anyone watching the game ... and particularly playing fantasy football ... knows how big Nani's contribution was last year.

Pinturicchio

Seaneh wrote: »

Over rated:
Sammi Eto'o

Under rated:
Massimo Ambrosini

Underrated by Milan:
Andrea Pirlo.

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Nani is surely underrated. When I talked to people following Serie A, they think Nani is still the same old very inconsistent, level below the likes of Krasic, Navas player.

Overrated by people who don't watch Serie A.

iregk

Nani is still below the levels of Krasic and Navas, what's wrong there?

Underrated by Milan:
Andrea Pirlo.

Disagree. Milan rated Pirlo very highly and sure they had him as the focal point of the team for years. At the moment they are going in a different direction and Pirlo just isn't the player they are looking for.

Pinturicchio

iregk wrote: »

Nani is still below the levels of Krasic and Navas, what's wrong there?

Underrated by Milan:
Andrea Pirlo.

Disagree. Milan rated Pirlo very highly and sure they had him as the focal point of the team for years. At the moment they are going in a different direction and Pirlo just isn't the player they are looking for.

I wonder sometimes just how good people think Krasic is. He's a one trick pony. He's very fast but completely right footed. 9 times out of 10 he'll try to go past his man down the outside. Nani offers much more final product.

I was joking about Pirlo really to annoy a Milan fan after his good start to the season with Juve. I agree that Milan were looking for a different kind of midfielder but losing a player that good for nothing to one of your biggest rivals is still a poor piece of business. He's still only 32. To put that in perpesctive, that's the age Del Piero was when he was the top scorer in Serie A.

qvsr46ofgc792k

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Nani is surely underrated. When I talked to people following Serie A, they think Nani is still the same old very inconsistent, level below the likes of Krasic, Navas player.

He has improved a lot, this season he is getting plaudits from few TV pundits but it just started.

nani is underated because Serie A followers say so?
Fair enough so ha

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Modric is still under-rated by so many people. What he brings to the table is so different to what any other player does. He's the difference in Spurs being a good team and a very good team.

Sandro as well, best holding midf in the PL. Not surprised that Mou wants him. Was fcuking immense against AC in last years CL, put in a superb performance against Chelsea too. Big game player.

Meireles is also criminally under-rated. One of the best midfs in the league, better than anything at Liverpool yet was the only high profile exit there.

Stu Holden at Bolton is playing at a lower level than he should be. Outstanding player, will he interesting to see how he recovers from his injury.

As for the over-rated players, pretty much anyone from Britain. Especially all those that have transferred clubs in the last 2 windows, with the exception of Downing. Liverpools only good summer acquisition imo.

Phil Jones is quickly becoming the most over-rated player, on here anyways. Very good player, but has a long way to go to warrant the praise he gets.

VW 1

THFC wrote: »

Modric is still under-rated by so many people. What he brings to the table is so different to what any other player does. He's the difference in Spurs being a good team and a very good team.

Sandro as well, best holding midf in the PL. Not surprised that Mou wants him. Was fcuking immense against AC in last years CL, put in a superb performance against Chelsea too. Big game player.

Meireles is also criminally under-rated. One of the best midfs in the league, better than anything at Liverpool yet was the only high profile exit there.

Stu Holden at Bolton is playing at a lower level than he should be. Outstanding player, will he interesting to see how he recovers from his injury.

As for the over-rated players, pretty much anyone from Britain. Especially all those that have transferred clubs in the last 2 windows, with the exception of Downing. Liverpools only good summer acquisition imo.

Phil Jones is quickly becoming the most over-rated player, on here anyways. Very good player, but has a long way to go to warrant the praise he gets.

Ashley Young. Chris Smalling. Just to name two at United off the top of my head.

Agreed there are a lot but generalisations dont work when describing football.

Quazzie

VW 1 wrote: »

Ashley Young. Chris Smalling. Just to name two at United off the top of my head.

Both of them are over rated in my opinion, and I'd add Jones to that list too.

I'm not saying they are bad players or indeed I'm not even denying they are good players but they are still over rated, simply because they are at United and United fans like to blow everything out of proportion.

Will I Amnt

Quazzie wrote: »

United fans like to blow everything out of proportion.

Yep,we're all the same,every last stereotypical one of us has the exact same opinion

Quazzie

Quazzie wrote: »

Both of them are over rated in my opinion, and I'd add Jones to that list too.

I'm not saying they are bad players or indeed I'm not even denying they are good players but they are still over rated, simply because they are at United and United fans like to blow everything out of proportion.

Anytime I have seen Phil Jones he has looked a top top player. Not a manu fan but he genuinely looks the best english youngster around by a country mile.

Seaneh

Pinturicchio wrote: »

Underrated by Milan:
Andrea Pirlo.

I dont think he was under rated at all, I feel exactly the opposite. He was the center of the team for almost a decade, we were completely reliant on him, when he was injured or banned or had a bad game, Milan were nowhere near as good. I think Allegri realised that and decided to move away from that system, so that if one or two players were missing, the entire team doesn´t suffer. He wanted more dynamic players like KPB who can play in a number of positions, younger players like El Shaawary with a bit of pace and just a change to the general style of play, a bit more width. A central 3 of players who work hard but can play a bit (Ambrosini, Flamini and Seedorf seem to be his perfered starting 3) behind an attacking 3 with a lot of freedom.
Add to that 2 years with a lot of injuries, a need to lower wages at the club and Pirlos desire to be a regular starter and it was just time for him to move on.

I will always regard Pirlo as one of the best in his position for his generation and someone, along with Xavi, who pretty much changed the way deep laying playmakers play, he is/was head and shoulders above players like Guardiola or the likes in the 90s and only Xavi has been his peer in the last 10 years in their position, those two are the two best at what they do Ive seen in the last 20 years, incredibly smart players who make every other player around them even better because of their vision, passing ability and intelligence, they create space better than anyone else on the planet and use the ball in ways other players just cant.


Also totally agree with Krasic, good player but totally one dimensional.

Seaneh

Deleted User wrote: »

Anytime I have seen Phil Jones he has looked a top top player. Not a manu fan but he genuinely looks the best english youngster around by a country mile.

I would agree with this. Looks like the best thing to come out of the English youth set up in a long time, could see him being a future England and Man Utd captain. I think he is already a great player and will push the two ahead of him at Utd for a place this season, and he is still only, what, 19 or something?

Blatter

Seaneh wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

Anytime I have seen Phil Jones he has looked a top top player. Not a manu fan but he genuinely looks the best english youngster around by a country mile.

I would agree with this. Looks like the best thing to come out of the English youth set up in a long time, could see him being a future England and Man Utd captain. I think he is already a great player and will push the two ahead of him at Utd for a place this season, and he is still only, what, 19 or something?

Yeah, 19.

It's funny how people can say he's overrated as I've watched every single United game this season and Jones has consistently been our best player behind Rooney. I know people point to Young and Nani there too but both of them have had a couple of average games this season each, but have been very good overall. Jones has been outstanding in them all.

To be putting in those performances at the age of 19 at a new club is nothing short of incredible and deserves all the plaudits it gets imo. Yes, it is very early to be saying he's the next Beckenbauer etc. but I think alot of that is slightly tongue in cheek.

I think the couple of people on here who have been saying he's overrated so far have been a Spurs and an Arsenal fan, two clubs that tried and failed to sign Jones this Summer.

Oh and I completely agree that Pirlo has been a sensational player over the last decade. Capable of passing that only Xavi could replicate.

Quazzie

Blatter wrote: »

I think the couple of people on here who have been saying he's overrated so far have been a Spurs and an Arsenal fan, two clubs that tried and failed to sign Jones this Summer.

Thats got absolutely nothing to do with it. You say that people are talking tongue in cheek about him being the next Beckenbauer , but there are those that are serious when they say it. Whilst he has looked good this year, I don't think he has been as good as some are rating him. This means he is over rated by some.

VW 1

Quazzie wrote: »

Thats got absolutely nothing to do with it. You say that people are talking tongue in cheek about him being the next Beckenbauer , but there are those that are serious when they say it. Whilst he has looked good this year, I don't think he has been as good as some are rating him. This means he is over rated by some.

Over rated by some doesnt mean it is the general consensus on this board or in real life. To say he has performed fantastically, isn't over rating him or exaggerating, it's a fact.

It's not like me saying that I think Joe Hart is over rated because I heard a fella down the pub say so..

Blatter

Quazzie wrote: »

Thats got absolutely nothing to do with it. You say that people are talking tongue in cheek about him being the next Beckenbauer , but there are those that are serious when they say it. Whilst he has looked good this year, I don't think he has been as good as some are rating him. This means he is over rated by some.

I mentioned that more to emphasise how many top clubs were after him this Summer, hense how highly rated the guy is.

Tbh, I don't ever remember a 19 year old defender being this good. I've never seen it before and I'd be fairly confident there would be quite a few that would agree with me on that score.

It's perfectly natural the guy is going to be rated extraordinarily high. He merits it.

And I don't think many people at all think he's currently as good as some of the names that he gets compared with eg. Beckenbauer, Desailly etc. but it's clear for all to see that he has the potential to reach those sort of levels and he has it in abundance.

Quazzie

Do you still consider him to be in the top 6 defenders in the EPL?

Blatter

Quazzie wrote: »

Do you still consider him to be in the top 6 defenders in the EPL?

I said top 6-8 before, not top 6 and yes I'd have him in that bracket.

Quazzie

Blatter wrote: »

I said top 6-8 before, not top 6 and yes I'd have him in that bracket.

Do you not see how rating someone in the top 8 defenders in the league after only 41 career games is over rating a player?

astonaidan

Overrated:
Wayne Rooney

Underrated:
Zlatan Ibrahimovic

Blatter

Quazzie wrote: »

Blatter wrote: »

I said top 6-8 before, not top 6 and yes I'd have him in that bracket.

Do you not see how rating someone in the top 8 defenders in the league after only 41 career games is over rating a player?

No. He's playing at that level at the moment (top 6-8 CB in the league) so I will rate him accordingly.

What do you want me to say, that I should rate Skrtel, Gary Cahill, Alex, Mertezacker etc, higher than him purely because they have more professional appearances under their belt?

VW 1

astonaidan wrote: »

Overrated:
Wayne Rooney

Underrated:
Zlatan Ibrahimovic

How is Rooney overrated? Apart from Alex Ferguson he is the most important person at Manchester United, one of the top three clubs in the world.

How can you over state his importance or overrate him?

Paparazzo

THFC wrote: »

Meireles is also criminally under-rated. One of the best midfs in the league, better than anything at Liverpool yet was the only high profile exit there.

Is this the same Meireles that got PFA Fans' Player of the Year in his first year in the premiership?

dedon

Andy 'a poor man's Peter Crouch' Carroll

Turtyturd

Paparazzo wrote: »

Is this the same Meireles that got PFA Fans' Player of the Year in his first year in the premiership?

Well Chelsea got him for 12 million so someone underrated him.

Sean Bateman

Overrated: Andy Carroll. Pound for pound the worst signing in the history of English football. The 8th most expensive player in the history of football. An utterly ridiculous signing.

Underrated: Antonio Valencia. An astonishingly good player.

Turtyturd

Sean Bateman wrote: »

Overrated: Andy Carroll. Pound for pound the worst signing in the history of English football. The 8th most expensive player in the history of football. An utterly ridiculous signing.

Terribly underrated as a Goal keeper...better than De Gea I am sure you will agree. :pac:

PARlance

There really is a need for an international ratings agency when it comes to footballers!
The Moodygits Index

My mate thinks Scott Parker is a legend, another mate thinks he's brutal, I think he's both over and underrated

astonaidan

Personally I fell if a player has a few good games in England hes the next big thing and if he plays for Barca hes suddenly one of the worlds best players, Rooney is overrated because the amount of people you hear saying hes the best english player ever, White Pele, I never said he wasnt important to United I said hes overrated because hes english

Giggsy11

Rylee Abundant Armchair wrote: »

nani is underated because Serie A followers say so?
Fair enough so ha

Not exactly. But those who dont watch him regularly still think he is same old Nani. Just gave an example of Serie A fans.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Paparazzo wrote: »

Is this the same Meireles that got PFA Fans' Player of the Year in his first year in the premiership?

No, Jonathan Bobby Meireles who plays for Obvious United.

castletownman

Over-rated

Kevin Davies. If any "foreigner" had as poor a goal-scoring record and committed as many fouls as he did, he would be one of the most despised players in the league.

And slightly off-topic, Owen Coyle is the most over-rated manager around. It's ridiculous to think that Alex McLeish is one of the favourites to be first sacked, when Owen "see me on Soccer AM next week" Coyle has been in free-fall for the past six months. Gary Negson would be lynched by now.