It's hard to think that now there are 13-14 year old's just getting into Hip-Hop

CorkMan

When we where that age around the 1999-2001 we had a prime Dr Dre and Eminem, Jay-Z etc. Whereas these days they have Soulja Boy, Drake, or rappers that feature on Timbaland pop beats with that one from the Pussycatt Dolls doing the hook.

I'm thinking, in 9-10 years time will these acts be the new Eminem, Jay-Z, Pac and Biggie? It is a scary thought. I know we think we all still listen to some Run DMC, The Chronic from 1992 and Grandmaster Flash but the scene is just changing so vastly, it is like the genre term "Hip-Hop" is withering away and Hip-Pop is here to stay. That never happened before. From the 80-90's the, those 2 decades the core stayed the same which was a rapping chorus and 3 solid verses plus non-commerical, but now it is commercial.

I don't like to think it, but think of Reggae from the 70's, when Bob Marley & The Wailers were at their peak and now think of Reggaeton and Dancehall, which is classified as Reggae these days :eek:

*BTW, sorry about the term "we". I know there are people who tuned into Hip-Hop from the 1980's and people who got in the door in and around the mid 00's when it started to become commercial fodder. I have just used from "1999-2001" as a general term as that is when I got into Hip-Hop.

LUPE

There is a lot of good new hip-hop out these days

CiaranMT

For Eminem etc ten years ago, read J. Cole, Odd Future Collective, Nocando, Kendrick Lamar.

mufcboy1999

When we where that age around the 1999-2001 we had a prime Dr Dre and Eminem, Jay-Z etc. Whereas these days they have Soulja Boy, Drake, or rappers that feature on Timbaland pop beats with that one from the Pussycatt Dolls doing the hook.

true, not much i can say on that only that hip hop is just becoming more commercial and pop and dance etc just have a bigger influence on younger kids so thats why hip hop is being fazed out really by the industry (records labels, radio etc). Illuminati never liked hip hop maybe its them who are ruining it with commercial hip pop and making sure the more hardcore hip hop doesnt get played on tv and radio like it used to, just a taught there's people out there who really belive that, but the illuminati in hip hop and music is a completely different can of worms .

I'm thinking, in 9-10 years time will these acts be the new Eminem, Jay-Z, Pac and Biggie? It is a scary thought. I know we think we all still listen to some Run DMC, The Chronic from 1992 and Grandmaster Flash but the scene is just changing so vastly, it is like the genre term "Hip-Hop" is withering away and Hip-Pop is here to stay. That never happened before. From the 80-90's the, those 2 decades the core stayed the same which was a rapping chorus and 3 solid verses plus non-commerical, but now it is commercial.

Too right its a scary thought, i can see us all now sounding like a few owl fella's telling the younger hip hop heads the "back in my day" story:D, Iv said it before now a days a rapper progressing as an artist is when he goes pop/autotune or rock n roll the question is why do they have to go into other music genre's to progress? why cant they progress as rappers switch there style up switch the beat up i mean thats how g funk came along. The days when rappers held there own on there songs and features front wasn't raped like it is now, i mean there are some rappers i could name who cant even make a hook or an extra verse instead of a feature and therefore rely on another artist to help them thats what i mean by progressing as a rapper some just dont do it and there music becomes predictable and stalemate.

I dont know bud, we are never going to get it back the way it was but it shouldn't be the way it is now either but its only going to get worse, there's very few new rappers i actually like j.cole being the main one other than that i just stick to what i know because i dont have the head for this new hip pop/techno rubbish.

I said it over on another thread, too me it looks like these days for new rappers to become successful they have to be able to do other things other than just rap like a j.cole or a drake, just being able to rap well these days doesn't seem to be enough unfortuantly.

Rjd2

LUPE wrote: »

There is a lot of good new hip-hop out these days

Yeah but it isn't mainstream it doesn't count..

ElleEm

My nephews are 13 and 14 and like the new hip and rap.

Today, I introduced them to Regulate. First time they heard it. Can't imagine them having gotten this far and not heard it yet. Love that tune!

Orizio

I'd much rather to be getting into Hip-Hop now then 5 years ago.

Whereas these days they have Soulja Boy, Drake, or rappers that feature on Timbaland pop beats with that one from the Pussycatt Dolls doing the hook.

If you think Soulja Boy and Timbaland are still relevent in Hip-Hop then try again. **** even Drake seems to have disapeared a bit.

Shapey Fiend

Much better time for kids to be getting into it. When I got into it in the 90's I could only afford a couple of albums a year (hey, I needed to fund my first passion videogames). There was little rap music on the radio and TV even if it was at it's peak circa 2000.

Now you've got a world of free tracks and mixtapes at your finger tips. While everybody else is waiting for Dr. Dre to release Detox and save hip hop (lawl) or speculating about leaked Eminem tracks I'll be enjoying stellar commercial hip hop from Gucci and Waka Floka Flame. Hell, even Soulja Boy puts out some fairly progressive music with experimental producers like Clams Casino. Ditto Lil B. OK, so they're kind of average rappers but their production is whopper at least. I'd consider it a healthy influence if the kids are listening to that sort of thing.

Hip hop heads have to be the narrowest music listeners ever. It's like listening to old rock critics who think there hasn't been a good song released after 1978 when punk took over.

mufcboy1999

why's that?

i personally wouldn't anyway for a lot of reasons.

Keyser Söze

Man ye guys should stop worrying about a particular genre and just like what music you like, who gives a **** what music genre songs are classed in.

Stab*City

This topic is rehashed every 10 years!