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What voip provider should i use?

  • 10-04-2011 8:50pm
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    Hey all,

    Im looking at starting to use voip. Im not sure what provider to use do.

    Id be using it through my iphone and il be getting a voip phone for the house,
    i was thinking skype but i see a lot are with blueface. Whats the difference?

    Thanks,
    TheMastero


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  • Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭doopa


    TheMastero wrote: »
    Hey all,

    Im looking at starting to use voip. Im not sure what provider to use do.

    Id be using it through my iphone and il be getting a voip phone for the house,
    i was thinking skype but i see a lot are with blueface. Whats the difference?

    Thanks,
    TheMastero

    I use both - personally I would go with blueface. I dunno exactly why - but I never really liked skype. I think the blueface terms and conditions are a lot clearer (and fairer) - though that isn't really a well formed opinion. But the best advice would be to go through your last few phone bills, both mobile and landline and check where all your money is going. Mine is going on calling UK mobiles - hence I'm looking at getting a UK number from sipgate. If you are calling landlines in Ireland then blueface is probably the way forward.

    Both are fairly comparable price wise to be fair- though the new Banter app may change things a bit. Its not exactly there yet in terms of functionality (for me) - it seems to be getting positive reviews for what it is though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    I have both Blueface and a Betamax account ....... the Betamax gives me free calls to UK and Irish landlines and about 11C per min for Irish mobiles.
    I use my 076 number from Blueface as the ID number on all calls.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    Things to consider when choosing a voip provider:

    -Emergency Calls?
    -Reliability?
    -Price?
    -DID and port number?
    -Features?
    -Irish Owned?

    I use blueface because I wanted to port our number and we found them reliable. Hope this helps. It is simple to use different providers as like another posted above, it makes things a lot cheaper..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,213 ✭✭✭championc


    I use Rynga.com which is a Betamax / Dalmont company. I'm paying only 7c per min to call mobiles and with €10 credit, while used for chargable calls like those to mobiles, gives free landline calls for all over Europe for 120 days. So my telephony costs me only about €30 - €40 per annum on top of my Broadband which is via UPC.

    And I can use VoIP on my mobile over Wi-Fi which is great when abroad because I can just call my home landline so it's then like an Irish landline to landline call which is free !!!


    C


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    +1 for Rynga.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭donaghs


    How do residential customers here find the experience of using Blueface?

    I'm fairly technical, other half not really, but dont half as much time as I used to for tweaking hardware/software. I basically want a reliable service that works, and would be cheaper than existing deals for free landline calls. Blueface "free calls for life" deal seems to tick the boxes...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,213 ✭✭✭championc


    I'd be interested to know how much people ACTUALLY save with Blueface by the time they get their broadband from someone and then get one of the price plans from Blueface.

    To me, if you go down a route like this, you need to make substantial savings. I was previously paying €10 per month for a "free calls" option and then paying another 10-15 for chargable calls. This has now fallen to €3 in total.


    C


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    I have to say we saved alot of money when using Voip for our telephone provider. We used to pay eircom €250 per month for 2 office lines (1 fax and 1 phone). Now we pay €25 to eircom, €20 to blueface and €28 to rynga.:D

    I use Rynga/Blueface at home and for business.


    I hope this helps!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    championc wrote: »
    I use Rynga.com which is a Betamax / Dalmont company. I'm paying only 7c per min to call mobiles and with €10 credit, while used for chargable calls like those to mobiles, gives free landline calls for all over Europe for 120 days. So my telephony costs me only about €30 - €40 per annum on top of my Broadband which is via UPC.

    And I can use VoIP on my mobile over Wi-Fi which is great when abroad because I can just call my home landline so it's then like an Irish landline to landline call which is free !!!


    C

    Champ
    What's the story with the 120 days? Is that the first 120 days of the contract?, or each year?, or the first 120 days you make landline calls?

    Also, do you now have a landline equivalent number for people to call you on?

    Cheers, investigating making the switch from landline to voip...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Mr_Grumpy wrote: »
    I have to say we saved alot of money when using Voip for our telephone provider. We used to pay eircom €250 per month for 2 office lines (1 fax and 1 phone). Now we pay €25 to eircom, €20 to blueface and €28 to rynga.:D

    I use Rynga/Blueface at home and for business.


    I hope this helps!

    Thinking of making the switch from landline, hence the questions.

    Why hold onto eircom? If you port your number with Blueface, from what I understand from their website, your eircom fixed line contract is automatically terminated.

    And why both Rynga and Blueface? What is each good for?

    My landline usage is currently around 400min landline calls (Ireland and UK) and 50-100min mobile calls. I'd ring UK mobiles more frequently if it was a cheap option.


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    just do it wrote: »
    Champ
    What's the story with the 120 days? Is that the first 120 days of the contract?, or each year?, or the first 120 days you make landline calls?

    Also, do you now have a landline equivalent number for people to call you on?

    Cheers, investigating making the switch from landline to voip...

    Every time you top up your Rynga account you will get 120 freedays to use on countries listed FREE on this page http://www.rynga.com/en/calling-rates.html . You can use your credit on your account to spend on mobiles, when out of free days etc.
    just do it wrote: »
    Thinking of making the switch from landline, hence the questions.

    Why hold onto eircom? If you port your number with Blueface, from what I understand from their website, your eircom fixed line contract is automatically terminated.

    And why both Rynga and Blueface? What is each good for?

    My landline usage is currently around 400min landline calls (Ireland and UK) and 50-100min mobile calls. I'd ring UK mobiles more frequently if it was a cheap option.

    Rynga allows you to call abroad for free and call mobiles for a lot less.
    Blueface allow you to transfer your number, call emergency services etc. Blueface Rates to mobiles are priced at different times and are generally higher then Rynga. Remember you can't call 1890,1850,19xx, 118xx, 1800xxxxxx with Rynga so you need to use your Blueface credit. Blueface don't have freedays unfortunately.

    We use (business and home) pbxes.com which allows you to use multiple trunks (and providers). pbxes.com is free for 2000 minutes and it is not expensive to have a premium account and use ivr, queues,extensions,call recording etc.

    Hope this helps!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Mr_Grumpy wrote: »
    Every time you top up your Rynga account you will get 120 freedays to use on countries listed FREE on this page http://www.rynga.com/en/calling-rates.html . You can use your credit on your account to spend on mobiles, when out of free days etc.



    Rynga allows you to call abroad for free and call mobiles for a lot less.
    Blueface allow you to transfer your number, call emergency services etc. Blueface Rates to mobiles are priced at different times and are generally higher then Rynga. Remember you can't call 1890,1850,19xx, 118xx, 1800xxxxxx with Rynga so you need to use your Blueface credit. Blueface don't have freedays unfortunately.

    We use (business and home) pbxes.com which allows you to use multiple trunks (and providers). pbxes.com is free for 2000 minutes and it is not expensive to have a premium account and use ivr, queues,extensions,call recording etc.

    Hope this helps!

    Thanks for prompt reply!
    I'm getting the jest of it. Rynga are the cheapest to use, but getting Blueface allows you to port your number and dial emergency nos etc.

    I've been looking at the Rynga website but it's not clear how much you need to top-up by to get the 120 freedays. Do you know what the min is?

    Can I take it in my scenario (basic residencial use only) I could ditch the landline (after porting the number via blueface)?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    just do it wrote: »
    Thanks for prompt reply!
    I'm getting the jest of it. Rynga are the cheapest to use, but getting Blueface allows you to port your number and dial emergency nos etc.

    I've been looking at the Rynga website but it's not clear how much you need to top-up by to get the 120 freedays. Do you know what the min is?

    Can I take it in my scenario (basic residencial use only) I could ditch the landline (after porting the number via blueface)?

    Rynga don't have any specific home or business plans. The minimum topup is €10+vat and transaction fee (I think) and it came altogether to around €12.50.

    Blueface will provide you with an 076 number, a blueface extension and a local geographic number. Your 076 number is a special voip number that you get when you topup your blueface account a minimum of €5 (Includes vat and there's no transaction fee) or subscribe to a plan.

    Blueface also provides you with a local geographic number when you subscribe to a plan (Cheapest is €10).
    You will get a blueface extension that any other blueface customer can call for free. It doesn't cost you anything to get this and it is free to call another BF extension.

    You can call your 076 number and geographic number from any other landline or mobile and they won't know the difference, its nearly the same thing!

    Blueface require you have Broadband (not dsl on your landline you want to port) and a plan with them before you port. It takes around 2-4 weeks to fully port and blueface will cancel your landline account(if you cancel it you lose your number), they will contact you when its being ported over and takes a few minutes.

    I hope this isn't too complicated and I hope this helps!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Thanks Mr G.

    My current landline deal is the eircom talktime anytime UK with BB costs €64.

    So now if I switch over:
    Wireless BB €20
    Blueface €10
    Rynga €3 (€12 for 120 freedays)

    Total €33. (half:))


    O2 speed check results on current landline BB:
    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 789 kbps (98.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 98 kbps (12.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 145 ms
    01 May 2011 23:35:39

    I'm in the sticks so no fancy fast BB or UPC. As it is I'm lucky to have BB as I'm at the max distance permissible from the eircom exchange. My neighbour 50m away had to fight hard to get his BB connection from eircom. But 3 and Vodafone have mobile broadband in my area according to their coverage maps. Upto 7.2mbps. What it is in reality is another story. I'll be trying out 3 tomorrow. I hope it's better than the speeds I'm currently getting above. If it is, happy days and a cheaper phone to boot:D.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 szines


    Try these if you want free land-line and cheap mobile calls:
    www.voipblast.com
    www.webcalldirect.com
    Excellent voice quality and easy to use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    I don't think this even qualifies as a 2 marker, but I'm going to ask it anyway.

    If I get a VOIP phone working off a mobile wireless router, I don't need to have the PC on for it to work?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    just do it wrote: »
    Thanks Mr G.

    My current landline deal is the eircom talktime anytime UK with BB costs €64.

    So now if I switch over:
    Wireless BB €20
    Blueface €10
    Rynga €3 (€12 for 120 freedays)

    Total €33. (half:))


    O2 speed check results on current landline BB:
    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 789 kbps (98.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 98 kbps (12.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 145 ms
    01 May 2011 23:35:39

    I'm in the sticks so no fancy fast BB or UPC. As it is I'm lucky to have BB as I'm at the max distance permissible from the eircom exchange. My neighbour 50m away had to fight hard to get his BB connection from eircom. But 3 and Vodafone have mobile broadband in my area according to their coverage maps. Upto 7.2mbps. What it is in reality is another story. I'll be trying out 3 tomorrow. I hope it's better than the speeds I'm currently getting above. If it is, happy days and a cheaper phone to boot:D.

    I would call mobile broadband more like narrowband or midband. I had it once, it was way way too slow for my liking, of course I can't get 3G in my house.

    The quality of voip depends on your broadband speeds, and your upload is slow enough so the quality on the other end would be bad, your download are as well a bit slow so again, quality will be bad.
    Are you in the 3G area for other networks?

    3, Justmobile and postfone are on the vodafone network, but use their own equipment and piggy back on vodafones network.

    I heard something about vodafone(?) are blocking voip from a certain time, AFAIK that was mobiles? Best check though before you switch..

    We used omnitel before and moved to eircon when they came in but, omnitel have been taken over by ripplecom in limerick. Using Wireless is a better option then mobile broadband if your having it in a fixed position. Take a look at digiweb maybe for wireless metro (not satellite)..


    Hope this helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Wireless broadband available in my area through Lighthouse. WiMax for €35pm 2mb download 1mb upload. Are these good enough speeds for VOIP?

    I've just talked to Vodafone. 3G available in the area but recommend a 7 day trial. This comes in at €20pm with speeds up to 7.2mb. The proof will be in the pudding.

    Thanks for your help Mr Grumpy, I've a good grasp of my options now.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    just do it wrote: »
    Wireless broadband available in my area through Lighthouse. WiMax for €35pm 2mb download 1mb upload. Are these good enough speeds for VOIP?

    I've just talked to Vodafone. 3G available in the area but recommend a 7 day trial. This comes in at €20pm with speeds up to 7.2mb. The proof will be in the pudding.

    Thanks for your help Mr Grumpy, I've a good grasp of my options now.

    Yes, lighthouse 2mb download/1mb upload is fine for VoiP. You could look at Ripplecom as they are doing it for €29pm with no limits, and they do services in the west as well.:rolleyes:

    Note that many Dellmount/rynga companies have a FUP of 300 minutes per week of freedays (realised that today!). So if you went with Blueface altogether it might be easier, with Blueface, they are an irish business and they don't rip you off or hide anything from you:). They are very honest people, dellmount (rynga) are sneaky, cold moneymakers, that never reply to a support issue:mad:.

    Anyways, using Blueface does save you money, and with excellent support you cant go wrong. (We used to spend €200-300 amonth to eircom) thats down to about €80 this month!(Business Plus, includes 250 mobiles and unlimited landlines+pbx).:)


    I know this seems not worth it, but once you have moved broadband provider, things get a lot better. Hope this helps!

    What you could do if get a phone and connect it to your eircom router and use that for your calls, pay the 10 or 20 euro a month but its cheaper then eircon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    just do it wrote: »
    Wireless broadband available in my area through Lighthouse. WiMax for €35pm 2mb download 1mb upload. Are these good enough speeds for VOIP?

    I've just talked to Vodafone. 3G available in the area but recommend a 7 day trial. This comes in at €20pm with speeds up to 7.2mb. The proof will be in the pudding.

    Thanks for your help Mr Grumpy, I've a good grasp of my options now.


    Do not attempt to use mobile internet connection for VOIP .... you will surely regret it if you choose this.

    Mobile broadband (usually using USB sticks) is not suitable
    and as has been mentioned some of, if not all, the service providers prevent VOIP working on their networks, according to reports from users on Boards.

    Some have reported that during the trial period VOIP worked well ...... only to have it fail after they signed up to a contract ....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    just do it wrote: »
    My current landline deal is the eircom talktime anytime UK with BB costs €64.

    So now if I switch over:
    Wireless BB €20
    Blueface €10
    Rynga €3 (€12 for 120 freedays)

    Total €33. (half:))


    O2 speed check results on current landline BB:
    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 789 kbps (98.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 98 kbps (12.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 145 ms
    01 May 2011 23:35:39

    O2 speed check results on current landline BB:
    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 821 kbps (102.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 44 kbps (5.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 142 ms
    02 May 2011 20:30:48

    Conducted a skype call with someone in China at these speeds with excellent sound quality.

    Went to town today to trial mobile broadband with 3. Both 3 and Vodafone were shut! Is that a sign or what? (3G with O2 not available in the area).

    From the feedback on Vodafone blocking VOIP (3 piggyback on Vodafone so I suspect the same), I maybe better off with wireless broadband.

    So this is what I'm currently looking at:
    Ripplecom 2MB/512KB €30pm
    Goldfish €2.50pm
    Rynga €3pm

    Total €35.50pm - a little over half current eircom package (€64). Will work out less as inevitably there is some extra monthly charges on the eircom bill for calls to mobiles etc. These will be cheaper on VOIP.

    Now, anyone using VOIP over basic Ripplecom? How's it working out?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    just do it wrote: »
    O2 speed check results on current landline BB:
    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 821 kbps (102.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 44 kbps (5.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 142 ms
    02 May 2011 20:30:48

    Conducted a skype call with someone in China at these speeds with excellent sound quality.

    Went to town today to trial mobile broadband with 3. Both 3 and Vodafone were shut! Is that a sign or what? (3G with O2 not available in the area).

    From the feedback on Vodafone blocking VOIP (3 piggyback on Vodafone so I suspect the same), I maybe better off with wireless broadband.

    So this is what I'm currently looking at:
    Ripplecom 2MB/512KB €30pm
    Goldfish €2.50pm
    Rynga €3pm

    Total €35.50pm - a little over half current eircom package (€64). Will work out less as inevitably there is some extra monthly charges on the eircom bill for calls to mobiles etc. These will be cheaper on VOIP.

    Now, anyone using VOIP over basic Ripplecom? How's it working out?

    We used to be with omnitel, but they have since been made up into ripplecom. It is best to use fixed wireless, it will allow you to get voip aswell. its not easy to get voip on mobile.

    Vodafone closed on bank holidays? Last sunday they were open til 6 (I think).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,213 ✭✭✭championc


    Whatever you go for, can I suggest that you get yourself an ATA (I have a Linksys SPA3102). This will allow you to use standard phones and not have a PC turned on permanently or use headphones or something like this. The routing would then be done by this little box. You could route say Irish Freephone and 999 calls to Goldfish and all others via Rynga (or whoever).


    C


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    championc wrote: »
    Whatever you go for, can I suggest that you get yourself an ATA (I have a Linksys SPA3102). This will allow you to use standard phones and not have a PC turned on permanently or use headphones or something like this. The routing would then be done by this little box. You could route say Irish Freephone and 999 calls to Goldfish and all others via Rynga (or whoever).


    C

    Our current phone is crap so will look at getting a VoIP phone when switching. Is this not a better option than an ATA and standard phone?

    Incidentially, swinging back towards Lighthouse broadband as quiet a few clients of ripplecom not too happy with speeds or service. Still going to trial the 3 mobile broadband and see what kind of speeds I get. Just need to make sure I can use if for VoIP if I keep it;).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 191 ✭✭malachy47


    Anyone who attempts realtime VOIP over mobile phone connectivity deserves everything they are going to get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    malachy47 wrote: »
    Anyone who attempts realtime VOIP over mobile phone connectivity deserves everything they are going to get.

    For those of us how aren't as to date with tech stuff, how are we to know that? On the face of it there's no reason why it shouldn't work. Also there are plenty people on here not happy with their wireless broadband from one of the main suppliers in the country. Given this and that most people aren't tech savy or forum users, I don't believe it is as clear cut as you suggest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭chalkitdown


    just do it wrote: »
    For those of us how aren't as to date with tech stuff, how are we to know that? On the face of it there's no reason why it shouldn't work. Also there are plenty people on here not happy with their wireless broadband from one of the main suppliers in the country. Given this and that most people aren't tech savy or forum users, I don't believe it is as clear cut as you suggest.

    Unfortunately the previous poster is correct, mobile broadband is not good enough for long term voip stability.
    It is the quality of the connection rather than the speed that dictates how well voip will work.
    Blueface used to have an application that you could run on your BB connection to measure jitter, run this on any connection that you are considering, but bear in mind that mobile BB will vary a lot, so if you are trying a dongle run the tests over a period of days.
    Even then you should be prepared to accept that your service could deteriorate at any time if any further mobile BB users connect to the same mast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,213 ✭✭✭championc


    just do it wrote: »
    Our current phone is crap so will look at getting a VoIP phone when switching. Is this not a better option than an ATA and standard phone?

    So are you planning on running the phone off a PC or what ? A SIP compatible phone will need to run off some form of PABX - either it's own box or a soft PABX on a PC. Or maybe I've missed something.


    C


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    championc wrote: »
    So are you planning on running the phone off a PC or what ? A SIP compatible phone will need to run off some form of PABX - either it's own box or a soft PABX on a PC. Or maybe I've missed something.


    C
    Hmm, I was assuming I could plug a VoIP phone into the wireless broadband router. Can I not do this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    just do it wrote: »
    Hmm, I was assuming I could plug a VoIP phone into the wireless broadband router. Can I not do this?

    With some phones you can ...... essentially they have an ATA built in.

    Grandstream are one well known brand ....
    http://www.voiplink.com/Grandstream_IP_Phones_s/19.htm


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    With some phones you can ...... essentially they have an ATA built in.

    Grandstream are one well known brand ....
    http://www.voiplink.com/Grandstream_IP_Phones_s/19.htm

    That's incorrect.
    Nearly every ATA allows you to connect your IP device to your router or modem. Your modem port is in use for the router, so you can connect your ip device to the router. Not every device somes with passthrough ethernet, if they do you can still connect it to the router on its own or from the modem in and the router wifi out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Originally Posted by just do it
    Hmm, I was assuming I could plug a VoIP phone into the wireless broadband router. Can I not do this?
    Originally Posted by Johnboy1951
    With some phones you can ...... essentially they have an ATA built in.

    Grandstream are one well known brand ....
    http://www.voiplink.com/Grandstream_IP_Phones_s/19.htm
    Mr_Grumpy wrote: »
    That's incorrect.
    Nearly every ATA allows you to connect your IP device to your router or modem. Your modem port is in use for the router, so you can connect your ip device to the router. Not every device somes with passthrough ethernet, if they do you can still connect it to the router on its own or from the modem in and the router wifi out.

    For clarity, Mr_Grumpy, could you be more specific about what is incorrect and why? ..... can no phone plug into a broadband router? Not even IP phones?

    Puzzled :(


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    For clarity, Mr_Grumpy, could you be more specific about what is incorrect and why? ..... can no phone plug into a broadband router? Not even IP phones?

    Puzzled :(


    It doesn't matter if it is a netigear, netopia or even belkin router or modem you connect it to.
    A router is a device that connects to your modem to share it with multiple devices. Nearly all routers come with 4 ports and wireless connection (WiFi). Some modems have routers built in. For example, eircoms netopia.

    Your IP phone or ATA can connect to a modem or router via ethernet cable. Some come with a pass-through feature that allows you to 1. Connect your ip device to your modem (you will see two rj45 ports labeled on your ip device) via ethernet, and then 2. Connect your ip device to your router, PC or other device on the other rj45 port on your ip device.
    You then connect your ata to your analogue phone.


    I hope this helps!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Your IP phone or ATA can connect to a modem or router via ethernet cable.

    Which is what I said ...... and you posted that this was incorrect ...... which is what has me puzzled.

    Is it the notion that the adaptor circuitry is built in to such a phone that is in question?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    Which is what I said ...... and you posted that this was incorrect ...... which is what has me puzzled.

    Is it the notion that the adaptor circuitry is built in to such a phone that is in question?

    No problem, it was a mis understanding. Quote: 'Hmm, I was assuming I could plug a VoIP phone into the wireless broadband router. Can I not do this?'

    The answer is you can connect all ethernet supposed voip devices to a modem or router.
    You said “some“ and I took it as “only a few“, my fault.

    Apologies...:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Mr_Grumpy wrote: »
    No problem, it was a mis understanding. Quote: 'Hmm, I was assuming I could plug a VoIP phone into the wireless broadband router. Can I not do this?'

    The answer is you can connect all ethernet supposed voip devices to a modem or router.
    You said “some“ and I took it as “only a few“, my fault.

    Apologies...:D

    :D:D:D

    No problems :D

    I used 'some' because there are phones marketed as "VOIP Phones" which are for PC use only ..... USB connected.
    In trying not to mislead it seems I confused the issue somewhat.
    I should of course have been more specific, as you have above.

    Thanks for pointing this up.

    regards. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Thanks Lads
    I got a bit lost there with all the talk of modems and routers, ATA's etc.
    But I now know I need to make sure the IP I get can plug directly into the router.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    What can be useful, if using an ordinary phone into an ATA device (standalone or built into a router) is a dect phone ..... it means the phone is not physically tied to any device.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 bonnamh


    Hi,


    I am a new customer with Goldfish since last week, am not affiliated with any provider.
    My experience to date has been:
    Website dreadful (eg. cannot purchase 2 items as basket doesn't work)
    Service offering is great, fax to email, voicemail to email etc all very good.
    Support desk very helpful and fast with configuring changes and getting you set up, so we worked around the website problems by emailing support.
    However when I found actual problem with their service (can't receive imcoming calls from local Eircom landlines!!!) they went silent for days and then told me to sort it out myself with Eircom frown.gif
    So basically the service does not work for me at all, am awaiting resolution/refund.
    It may work for you if you get range of numbers in area where nobody will ever call you from but then you most likely want a phone "presence" in your customer area.
    Anyway, that's been my experience to date.
    If any change, I'll post update
    bonnamh : )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    just do it wrote: »
    O2 speed check results on current landline BB:
    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 821 kbps (102.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 44 kbps (5.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 142 ms
    02 May 2011 20:30:48

    Landline giving trouble for both bb and calls. Here's the speed test results:(
    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 136 kbps (17 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 59 kbps (7.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 138 ms
    17 September 2011 16:06:19

    P.S. This is for my info as much as anyone elses!!


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    just do it wrote: »
    just do it wrote: »
    O2 speed check results on current landline BB:
    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 821 kbps (102.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 44 kbps (5.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 142 ms
    02 May 2011 20:30:48

    Landline giving trouble for both bb and calls. Here's the speed test results:(
    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 136 kbps (17 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 59 kbps (7.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 138 ms
    17 September 2011 16:06:19

    P.S. This is for my info as much as anyone elses!!

    If you have blueface/voip and maybe use landline for broaband:
    Oh dear, okay this is what you should do:
    Plug everything out bar your IP phone or ATA.
    Pick up the phone and ring a test number (say 305 with blueface and check if it stops and starts). Your latency is alot, but you will need to get onto your broadband provider about those dreadful speeds!. If any further problems, get back to us.

    If you are not using voip, then I suggest you go over to the Net and Communications forum. You should ring your provider because with that information nothing here can really help you for landline problems.

    Have a nice evening anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    just do it wrote: »
    Landline giving trouble for both bb and calls. Here's the speed test results:(
    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 136 kbps (17 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 59 kbps (7.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 138 ms
    17 September 2011 16:06:19

    P.S. This is for my info as much as anyone elses!!

    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 886 kbps (110.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 58 kbps (7.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 125 ms
    19 September 2011 21:54:41



    Eircom out and fixed the line. Problem was with wire running from the road under the new wall & tarmac driveway and house foundation - yikes! Luckily the wire has a spare wire built in and this one works ok, phew.
    Phone and BB now working again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Petercarlos


    Skype is fine. I have never used blueface. For professional use, I take VOIP and hosted PBX services from therealpbx.com. It works fine on iPhone and VOIP phones as well. I personally use Android but my colleague use it on iPhone. She has not faced any issue so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    just do it wrote: »
    Landline giving trouble for both bb and calls. Here's the speed test results:(
    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 136 kbps (17 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 59 kbps (7.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 138 ms
    17 September 2011 16:06:19

    P.S. This is for my info as much as anyone elses!!

    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 712 kbps (89 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 95 kbps (11.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 131 ms
    20 August 2012 22:31:10

    Despite what seems to be much improved speeds d'Internet is slow tonight:confused:


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    Are you getting the 1mb dsl service? If you are getting about half a meg at bad time in OK.

    If your getting more than a 1mb service you need to move providers. If you move to another dsl provider your likely to get the same speed as the speed is dictated by your line quality. Maybe look at fixed wireless, upc or wimax.

    Hope this helps :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    I'm posting this for my own benefit, keeping all the results together. So need for replies;)
    just do it wrote: »
    O2 speed check results on current landline BB:
    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 789 kbps (98.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 98 kbps (12.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 145 ms
    01 May 2011 23:35:39
    just do it wrote: »
    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 136 kbps (17 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 59 kbps (7.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 138 ms
    17 September 2011 16:06:19
    just do it wrote: »
    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 886 kbps (110.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 58 kbps (7.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 125 ms
    19 September 2011 21:54:41
    just do it wrote: »
    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 712 kbps (89 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 95 kbps (11.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 131 ms
    20 August 2012 22:31:10

    Despite what seems to be much improved speeds d'Internet is slow tonightconfused.gif

    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 713 kbps (89.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 57 kbps (7.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 129 ms
    21 August 2012 21:47:03

    Similar results as last night but the Internet is working much better tonight!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    just do it wrote: »
    I'm posting this for my own benefit, keeping all the results together. So no need for replies;)









    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 713 kbps (89.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 57 kbps (7.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 129 ms
    21 August 2012 21:47:03

    Similar results as last night but the Internet is working much better tonight!

    Last Result:
    Download Speed: 771 kbps (96.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 104 kbps (13 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 130 ms
    16 September 2012 23:05:19

    The landline has been giving trouble for a long time now and eircom have visited on a number of occasions and finally replaced the line from pole out at the road running into the house. My OH said it was in tatters! This has cured the phone line issues but broadband remains at the same level - slow but sufficient for what we want. Unfortunately it rules out the option of things like netflix etc


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    Just do it,

    Can you get UPC or Wireless broadband? That's bound to be faster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Mr_Grumpy wrote: »
    Just do it,

    Can you get UPC or Wireless broadband? That's bound to be faster.
    Unfortunately not. One of the disadvantages of living in the sticks :rolleyes:

    I looked at alternate providers previously and there seemed to be a lot of disgruntled customers so I don't want to take the chance to be honest.


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