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The Most hated man in PW History

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭starviewadams


    I always thought it was Matt Striker that Benoit banned from the locker room for disrespecting Shawn Michaels?

    And he made him do a thousand squats and did them with him?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭partyndbs


    i heard it was davari that did the squats


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    It is not that simple though. Yes it was a terrible act, nobody pretends otherwise. But and it is a big but, the guy was torn apart due to mental issues from brain damage and drugs. He wasn't in his right mind. It was a terrible act and can never be forgiven. But there are caveats to it and it is simplistic to just say people treat him with kid gloves because he was good at what he did.

    Mental illness can make people do terrible things.

    But surely most child murderers are driven by some form of mental illness?

    There isn't really too much difference between him and anyone else that killed a child. The outcome is the same, no matter the caveats. A kid is dead for no reason.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    D.Q wrote: »
    But surely most child murderers are driven by some form of mental illness?

    There isn't really too much difference between him and anyone else that killed a child. The outcome is the same, no matter the caveats. A kid is dead for no reason.

    His illness did come from something specific though, namely modern pro wrestling's drive to crazy bumps. I'm not defending him, it was indefensible. I'm just saying you must remember that he was suffering from an illness.

    I view him as slightly different to somebody like Bundy who was just a lunatic to begin with. Benoit may have had underlying emotional issues, but I don't think they would have came out in that way were he not taking the bumps he took and on the drugs he was on. I don't think wrestling should demonise him for something that wrestling played a part in creating.

    WWE are right to never mention him as I don't think anybody can watch his matches any more. But it should be remembered wrestling played a large part in creating the monster. No different to the many other men driven mad by wrestling's underbelly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Charisteas wrote: »
    Why?

    I'm not sure he always just annoyed me. The only wrestling match I ever enjoyed watching him in was the hell in the cell and he got ****ed off the top of the cage in that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    I lost a fair bit of respect for Rikishi in his short stint in TNA. He rolled in very overweight, dismissed the roster as underneath him (as a WWE failure, he's above the TNA wrestlers) and cut these terrible Rock-rip-off promos (if ya smell what the 'kish is cookin')

    but I thought he was a solid mid-card act. Over like rover in the 2000 Rumble!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭starviewadams


    He had a quality cage match with Val Venis at Fully Loaded 2000(I think!)

    Very good worker for a man his size!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭el dude


    Benoit shouldn't come into this discussion. He's hated for something he did not involving wrestling. Obviously anyone with any sense at all would hate someone for doing what he did, but it's different in this context.

    My most hated would be John Cena. Because he ruined wrestling for me.
    It is not that simple though. Yes it was a terrible act, nobody pretends otherwise. But and it is a big but, the guy was torn apart due to mental issues from brain damage and drugs. He wasn't in his right mind. It was a terrible act and can never be forgiven. But there are caveats to it and it is simplistic to just say people treat him with kid gloves because he was good at what he did.

    Mental illness can make people do terrible things.


    Not to rattle on but thats a ludicrous way to look at it.

    Sure the same excuses could be made for anyone that's ever committed such a despicable act. They weren't in their right mind, they had mental issues. If he wasn't a Wrestler, a very good one, would you be so understanding? No, no you wouldn't. And that, quite frankly, is embarrassing in the extreme.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    poll added, yeah some of those in the poll dont truely belong but I wanted to give options


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    el dude wrote: »
    Not to rattle on but thats a ludicrous way to look at it.

    Sure the same excuses could be made for anyone that's ever committed such a despicable act. They weren't in their right mind, they had mental issues. If he wasn't a Wrestler, a very good one, would you be so understanding? No, no you wouldn't. And that, quite frankly, is embarrassing in the extreme.

    Without sounding harsh, you have no idea what I have had happen to people close to me and I was understanding in those situations. So if I could manage to be understanding when it was personal to me, I think I can be understanding when it involves a guy off the TV.

    I'm not getting deep into this as I really would rather not, but mental illness can change a person drastically. I have pretty clearly said twice already that I don't forgive the act as it was despicable. But it is extremely hypocritical for wrestling to portray him as an evil monster, when wrestling played a large role in creating the monster.


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