Ferry Lift in the Docks Today

Steyr

Berty wrote: »

Is there a bouycancy they must have before they can get out of the docks or is the "gate" level with the bed of the docks??

At high tide the dock gates are level with sea level and thats when they open.

The dock gates can close and the dock itself can pump water into or out of it.

Berty wrote: »

Will the ship itself fall over when out on the waves?

This morning they welded the first boat to the deck of the Thor Gitta. If they have everything correct then no she will not "fall over".

I would love to see her in rough seas, just to see what sort of angles she would roll with the 2 boats on board. She was visibly listing to port yesterday when lifting the first boat.

Das Kitty

I'm actually going to feel sad when they do finally leave. This saga has been entertaining.

After this the Cargo Ship is off to Skull Island and Isla Sorna to pick up some wildlife that won't quite fit

biko

Boat in a boat? Xzibit would have a field day with this

Steyr

biko wrote: »

Boat in a boat? Xzibit would have a field day with this

Yo! Dogg I heard you like Boats, so we put a Boat on a Boat and another Boat on that Boat so you can Boat while you Boat. WORD!

vulcan57

Went down this morning hoping to get them loading the second boat, no such luck though. They have really beefed up security, I have never been stopped going around the docks, especially heading over to cross the lock gates. Anyway got a couple of pics of what has already happened, so nothing new really.





From this picture you can see how they may be able to fit the two of them on. Could be that they are going on side by side or at least over lapping bow over bow, as the first one is very much to starboard side.





And trying to make sure this one doesn't move !!

buzz11

Video of the after splash;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7MT-T-r6oY

Zzippy

Steyr wrote: »

At high tide the dock gates are level with sea level and thats when they open.

The dock gates can close and the dock itself can pump water into or out of it.



This morning they welded the first boat to the deck of the Thor Gitta. If they have everything correct then no she will not "fall over".

I would love to see her in rough seas, just to see what sort of angles she would roll with the 2 boats on board. She was visibly listing to port yesterday when lifting the first boat.

On RTE news yesterday they said the Thor Gitta weighed 7,000 tonnes, and the ferries were 76 tonnes each, so I'd say she has plenty of stability, 152 tonnes on deck won't make that much difference. In my (uneducated layman's) opinion!

squonk

Anyone know yet what time she's sailing? It'd be nice to watch her leave from the prom!

vulcan57

squonk wrote: »

Anyone know yet what time she's sailing? It'd be nice to watch her leave from the prom!

At the moment, it's to be around 10 am on Saturday, but with this anything could happen !!

thesandeman

Second one still sitting there (moved a bit).
Might do a bit of DockBushing tomorrow seeing as there is nowhere else to go B-)

rabbitinlights

mitsuko045

This entire fiasco doesn't sound like bad luck to me. The bad lucked started and ended when the first boat ran aground.

Straps breaking, people being on board lifted boats, crane alarms going off and proceedings being delayed because they didn't clear the deck in time!?
Like wtf, it sounds like theres someone/some people who aren't seeing to things properly!

JohnCleary

Heard from a very reliable source yesterday that the Captain of the ship will not be held responsible for the injury of the 3 people who were on-board the passenger boat.

Interestingly, the Captain of a chip only becomes liable once the cargo is hauled over the railings of the ship

celty

mitsuko045 wrote: »

This entire fiasco doesn't sound like bad luck to me. The bad lucked started and ended when the first boat ran aground.

Straps breaking, people being on board lifted boats, crane alarms going off and proceedings being delayed because they didn't clear the deck in time!?
Like wtf, it sounds like theres someone/some people who aren't seeing to things properly!

So true. This is a huge cargo ship. They are used to carrying heavy goods and materials. Straps breaking, or underestimating the size or weight of the cargo, seems extremely unprofessional.

It might be an ununsual operation for Galway Harbour, but it should be a normal day's work for the people on a 7,000 tonne ship. It's a ridiculous saga, considering ... THIS IS WHAT THEY DO!

celty

JohnCleary wrote: »

Heard from a very reliable source yesterday that the Captain of the ship will not be held responsible for the injury of the 3 people who were on-board the passenger boat.

Interestingly, the Captain of a chip only becomes liable once the cargo is hauled over the railings of the ship

John, in fairness ... if you were a muppet, you could hardly sue anyone else just because you are a muppet!

It beggars belief that those three lads just decided to stay on board for the 'ride' onto the bigger ship. Their job was just to bring the ferry in from Rossaveal and get it ready for the lift. They are very lucky men not to have serious injuries.

Madame Razz

celty wrote: »

So true. This is a huge cargo ship. They are used to carrying heavy goods and materials. Straps breaking, or underestimating the size or weight of the cargo, seems extremely unprofessional.

It might be an ununsual operation for Galway Harbour, but it should be a normal day's work for the people on a 7,000 tonne ship. It's a ridiculous saga, considering ... THIS IS WHAT THEY DO!

Or is it???:p

I'm quite surprised that the ship is registered in Denmark:p

It strikes me as though they tried to do the whole operation on the cheap tbh. There were so many errors, and nobody appears to have thought anything through. The whole thing has been farcical. Those ferries should have been sailed down to Limerick or Cork, and loaded on using a proper gantry crane, in an area where they had space enough to work etc. Obviously that would have cost more, but it would have been a far more straightforward process and they'd be over half way to Mauritius by now if they had done it properly to begin with.

snubbleste

celty wrote: »

John, in fairness ... if you were a muppet, you could hardly sue anyone else just because you are a muppet!

It beggars belief that those three lads just decided to stay on board for the 'ride' onto the bigger ship. Their job was just to bring the ferry in from Rossaveal and get it ready for the lift. They are very lucky men not to have serious injuries.

Course you can. Why do we see 'caution hot' sign on takeaway cups of coffee?

roundymac

Madame Razz wrote: »

Or is it???:p

I'm quite surprised that the ship is registered in Denmark:p

It strikes me as though they tried to do the whole operation on the cheap tbh. There were so many errors, and nobody appears to have thought anything through. The whole thing has been farcical. Those ferries should have been sailed down to Limerick or Cork, and loaded on using a proper gantry crane, in an area where they had space enough to work etc. Obviously that would have cost more, but it would have been a far more straightforward process and they'd be over half way to Mauritius by now if they had done it properly to begin with.

A gantry crane would not have been able to load them. The cranes on the ship (Thor Gita) are quite capable of loading them, thats already been proved by loading the first ferry. Why are you suprised the ship is registered in Denmark, what has that got to do with the loading of ferries?:eek:

Madame Razz

roundymac wrote: »

A gantry crane would not have been able to load them. The cranes on the ship (Thor Gita) are quite capable of loading them, thats already been proved by loading the first ferry. Why are you suprised the ship is registered in Denmark, what has that got to do with the loading of ferries?:eek:

Somebody else told me otherwise re the Gantry crane. I guess there will always be several theories on this, I still don't believe that Galway was an overly suitable location for the whole procedure tho.

I just find the ship reg interesting(or unexpected) given the haphazard nature of the whole operation, is all:)

muskyj

Madame Razz wrote: »

Somebody else told me otherwise re the Gantry crane. I guess there will always be several theories on this, I still don't believe that Galway was an overly suitable location for the whole procedure tho.

I just find the ship reg interesting(or unexpected) given the haphazard nature of the whole operation, is all:)

Galway is a suitable location as that is where the ferry boats were. there is no guarantee that there will be gantry cranes or otherwise available when they get to mauritius (how were they to get the ferry boats off when they got there?) these cargo ships are capable for the job, there has been a few unfortunate setbacks (which can happen in any well planned operation) but also there has been some very poor decision making. if the captain of the first cargo ship heeded the warnings of not anchoring where he did during the storm they would have been loaded in rosaveel and we would hardly have heard about it.

Storm 10

This ship was in Galway in 2005 as "BBC Singapore" Ref Galway Harbour Master when she off loaded a 500 ton part for Tynagh, the ferries are only 87 ton so she is quite capable of lifting the ferries and even heavier loads.

here she is in Galway2005:

http://www.galwayships.com/cargo_ships/BBC%20Singapore%203.html

http://www.galwayships.com/cargo_ships/BBC%20Singapore%204.html

http://www.galwayships.com/cargo_ships/BBC%20Singapore%205.html

Sponge Bob

She gets around, here she is in Sydney in 2009

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1011642

roundymac

Madame Razz wrote: »

Somebody else told me otherwise re the Gantry crane. I guess there will always be several theories on this, I still don't believe that Galway was an overly suitable location for the whole procedure tho.

I just find the ship reg interesting(or unexpected) given the haphazard nature of the whole operation, is all:)

The gantry cranes in Cork lift 12m containers with a max weight of about 30tonnes. I still can't understand what you find unusual about the ships reg. Leaving aside the strap breaking there is nothing else really unusal about the loading, these operations take time and cannot be rushed.

Madame Razz

roundymac wrote: »

The gantry cranes in Cork lift 12m containers with a max weight of about 30tonnes. I still can't understand what you find unusual about the ships reg. Leaving aside the strap breaking there is nothing else really unusal about the loading, these operations take time and cannot be rushed.

I appreciate what you are saying re taking time etc but straps breaking still strikes me as quite amateur. Eitherway, I'm sure the ship and crew will be glad to see the back of Galway:)

thesandeman

ETD 2000hrs tomorrow.

Shlippery

The second ferry is up alongside it from what I could see an hour ago! They're kinda on it at an angle.
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yea.

Steyr

celty wrote: »

This is a huge cargo ship. They are used to carrying heavy goods and materials.

It might be an ununsual operation for Galway Harbour

No she is not a huge Cargo Ship Big yes but not huge.


This is a Huge Cargo Ship:



Thor Gitta was here before, she was Previously the BBC Singapore as have other BBC Vessels:

http://www.galwayships.com/cargo_ships/BBC%20Singapore%201.html

Steyr

Screen Grab from the Webcam just now:

Steyr

They could really have used a Heavy lift Semi-submerging or "Flo/Flo" Vessel.

They literally submerge to whatever meter depth is necessary and then the Vessel that is to be transported is simply floated over the deck of the "Flo/Flo" and then the "Flo/Flo" surfaces with it's Cargo to be transported on the deck.


See:

MV Blue Marlin carrying USS Cole



MV Blue Marlin transporting the U.S. Navy minesweepers USS Raven and USS Cardinal

vulcan57

Well, just a few pics that I took today.