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I've had enough of Gomes
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14-04-2011 1:18pm#1
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van der vart wrote: »weigh up the good against the bad, think he saved us a lot more points than he lost us
Yes, but there are plenty of 'keepers who could save as much points without making as many mistakes as Gomes does.0 -
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No doubt he was very good in all of the mentioned games, but do you not think that he makes too many mistakes over the course of a season ?
Chelsea at home kind of summed him up back in December, shocking for Drogba's goal, gives away a peno. and then saves it and in a way went from villain to hero in some eyes !
This is not something that has just happened recently. Remember Udinese and Shakhtar. The fact that there is just as many mistakes to remember as there is days when he was heroic is not right.
Don't get me wrong, we will find it hard to get a top keeper, there is not too many around.
I suppose I should explain the subtext of my post John.
Shane is a huge fan of Harry (as he is entitled to be) and draws attention to his achievements in deflecting criticism of him as a manager. I'd go so far as to say Shane will not brook any criticism of Harry at all.
I on the other hand am a little concerned at our performances against the lower ranked teams in the league, and think legitimate question can be asked about why we don't perform better. I think our record vs the bottom six is atrocious.
That doesn't mean I want Harry fúcked out or anything.
I do think it is interesting to note that since the start of last season we have averaged 1.78 Points Per Game (PPG) in the PL.
With Gomes in goal we manage 1.84 PPG
With Cudicini in goal we manage 1.5 PPG
I don't subscribe to the argument that Gomes saves you more points than he loses: it is his job to save shots on target, so failing to perform in that task should be questioned.
If we can find better then I'd happily settle for Gomes being dropped, but I will say this: if we were putting away our chances at the other end of the field maybe our opposition might not be as under pressure during games as we have been this season. I also think our "lump it long to whoever is up front, even it if is Defoe on his own" approach surrenders possession too often.
But then I think everything can be questioned to some degree...
Sorry Shane
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therecklessone wrote: »I suppose I should explain the subtext of my post John.
Shane is a huge fan of Harry (as he is entitled to be) and draws attention to his achievements in deflecting criticism of him as a manager. I'd go so far as to say Shane will not brook any criticism of Harry at all.
I on the other hand am a little concerned at our performances against the lower ranked teams in the league, and think legitimate question can be asked about why we don't perform better. I think our record vs the bottom six is atrocious.
That doesn't mean I want Harry fúcked out or anything.
I do think it is interesting to note that since the start of last season we have averaged 1.78 Points Per Game (PPG) in the PL.
With Gomes in goal we manage 1.84 PPG
With Cudicini in goal we manage 1.5 PPG
I don't subscribe to the argument that Gomes saves you more points than he loses: it is his job to save shots on target, so failing to perform in that task should be questioned.
If we can find better then I'd happily settle for Gomes being dropped, but I will say this: if we were putting away our chances at the other end of the field maybe our opposition might not be as under pressure during games as we have been this season. I also think our "lump it long to whoever is up front, even it if is Defoe on his own" approach surrenders possession too often.
But then I think everything can be questioned to some degree...
Sorry Shane
The Harry debate is probably for another day maybe. I for one am certainly not his biggest fan as I have stated many times. I acknowledge his work at Spurs which has been very good but as a whole, I have several issues with him.
Yes, the case of not putting away our chances at the other end does stand up, and the idea of throwing balls long to whoever drives me mad, but that is all linked to the manager and how he sets up and advises his players. Tactically to a certain extent , we are one dimensional, and that's a major issue I have with the manager. His ability or inability to adapt to different games/situations has cost us in my opinion.
I told you this would turn in to a Harry debate
As for the keeper, he is too inconsistent. In saying that, people could point out that Arsenal haven't had a keeper in years and have been doing ok.0 -
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We've seen Gomes in action for 3 seasons now. I think this is long enough for us to make a fair balanced assessment.
In 08 I was convinced that he would overcome his dogey start, and I was delighted for him when he did. Last season I reckon he was in with a good shout of being our player of the season.
However, bit by bit his form has been dropping since the heights of last season. And I have to admit that my paitence has run out. The problem is, he doesn't do mistakes, he does massive howlers.
For me the bottom line is that I don't trust him anymore and I think we need better. I have always thought that the GK is the most important position in the team.
If he stays, I hope he proves me wrong. But I have lost faith in him. Last Wed was so stupid, how can he be so rubbish one minute and unbeleivable the next. I don't have the nerves to cope with his yo-yo form anymore. GKs need to be the coolest players on the field, if they are not the whole team is effected.
Sorry Gomes, you gotta go, I don't trust you anymore.
(As for Harry, would be delighted to debate his situation anytime)
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