Digital Switchover - UTV Region (DigitalUK)

Geuze

Based on info gleaned from this forum, I sent my parents into Currys in Navan, with the following request:

"We would like a TV with a Saorview tuner plus a DVB-T2 tuner to receive the Freeview HD signal from the north"

They hadn't a clue.

Nor had a shop in Kells.

So they bought a Toshiba, which I presume will receive the SD channels from the north.

jonnygee

That reads like they were looking for a tv with two seperate tuners, I wouldnt know where you would find one of those either.

Sam Russell

Samsung, LG or Sony all have versions that are both Saorview and Freeview HD.

lawhec

The BBC web page for The Magic Box says "BBC One only on Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland HD" - explains a lot, probably be available at the start of next week.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00yqg7c

Mr. Rabbit

lawhec wrote: »

The BBC web page for The Magic Box says "BBC One only on Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland HD" - explains a lot, probably be available at the start of next week.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00yqg7c

Hmmm.

Looks like we could have BBC 1 NI HD from next week !

SRB

Going live with the HD Mux launch.

formerly scottish paddy

Past 60 years of tv in HD, that's good going. How did they manage that?

mrdtv2010

lawhec wrote: »

The BBC web page for The Magic Box says "BBC One only on Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland HD" - explains a lot, probably be available at the start of next week.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00yqg7c

Good spot! Gives the game away, and now that the UTVHD feed is on the Intelsat distribution feed to the DTT transmitters, it means that Freeview HD NI will be regionalised on Wednesday. Also minimises the need for downrange retunes, given that Wednesday is going to be complicated enough.

formerly scottish paddy

Mr. Rabbit wrote: »

Hmmm.

Looks like we could have BBC 1 NI HD from next week !

I don't know about that, anything I have read about this from the BBC seems to suggest it will be later in the year or early next year.
If it was going to happen next week I think there would have been an announcement of some sort, remember this will not only affect BBC NI but also BBC Scotland and BBC Wales.

mrdtv2010

formerly scottish paddy wrote: »

I don't know about that, anything I have read about this from the BBC seems to suggest it will be later in the year or early next year.
If it was going to happen next week I think there would have been an announcement of some sort, remember this will not only affect BBC NI but also BBC Scotland and BBC Wales.

If its on the BBC NI web site its official. Also BBC1 Scotland:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showpost.php?p=61705179&postcount=6

And the commercial contracts are in place, note the timeline for BBC1NI HD:

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/techfacils/tsl-wins-bbc-nations-hd-contract/5047596.article


TSL wins BBC Nations HD contract
10 October, 2012

Systems integrator TSL has won the contract to upgrade BBC Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales’ playout operations to HD.

It means that each nation’s channel will be able to broadcast to national schedules, showing true HD and up-scaled programmes.

“The overall challenge with this project is the amount of planning involved”, said TSL director of systems David Gunn.

“During live playout, we’ll be replacing sections of SD circuitry and interfacing new HD systems around each of the nations’ existing infrastructures.”

TSL said that key aspects of the upgrade at each site will include an additional channel of Miranda’s Colossus automated playout system, Pixel Power Logovision graphics engines, Harmonic Mediacentre servers and Snell Sirius routers.

Axon kit will provide originated Dolby surround and upmixing stereo to 5.1, together with new HD video and surround sound audio monitoring equipment.

TSL built the original BBC Nations SD playout facilities in Glasgow, Cardiff and Belfast in 2007.

The first HD upgrade is due to take place at BBC Northern Ireland later this year, with the project due for completion by the first quarter of next year.

formerly scottish paddy

Well this from Alix Pryde, Director of Distribution BBC, on 2nd of this month :

We will be launching BBC One HD for Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland over the next few months. I’ll update you with exact dates when we have them confirmed.

No mention of 24th Oct.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/posts/Satellite-Shuffling-reducing-BBC-Red-Button-and-expanding-BBC-One-HD

mrdtv2010

formerly scottish paddy wrote: »

Well this from Alix Pryde, Director of Distribution BBC, on 2nd of this month :No mention of 24th Oct.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/posts/Satellite-Shuffling-reducing-BBC-Red-Button-and-expanding-BBC-One-HD

I think we have seen this before.

givecredit

BBC1 NI HD Already testing on satellite at 28deg east . 10.847 V SR 22.000 FEC 5/6
Showing BBC1 LONDON HD with BBC1 NI 7 day epg.

mrdtv2010

givecredit wrote: »

BBC1 NI HD Already testing on satellite at 28deg east . 10.847 V SR 22.000 FEC 5/6
Showing BBC1 LONDON HD with BBC1 NI 7 day epg.

Indeed, and UTV HD on 11495V SR44100 FEC 9/10, DVB-S2 QPSK 27.5W

http://en.kingofsat.net/pos-27.5W.php

formerly scottish paddy

mrdtv2010 wrote: »

TSL wins BBC Nations HD contract
10 October, 2012

note the timeline for BBC1NI HD:............

The first HD upgrade is due to take place at BBC Northern Ireland later this year, with the project due for completion by the first quarter of next year.

I am sorry, am I missing something or does this not bear out what I have already said above.

reboot

Sam Russell wrote: »

Samsung, LG or Sony all have versions that are both Saorview and Freeview HD.

Agreed,I found Sony KDL-40EX403 or equivalent does everything ,even Internet with dongle.

adox

reboot wrote: »

Agreed,I found Sony KDL-40EX403 or equivalent does everything ,even Internet with dongle.

The newer Sony smart tvs have wifi built in, no dongle required.

reboot

adox wrote: »

The newer Sony smart tvs have wifi built in, no dongle required.

Even better,roll on 4K.

mrdtv2010

formerly scottish paddy wrote: »

I am sorry, am I missing something or does this not bear out what I have already said above.

Yes:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/programmes/schedules/ni_hd/2012/10/24

mrdtv2010

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/programmes/schedules/2012/10/24

mrdtv2010

I suspect that will be via Astra 2F to reduce the overspill footprint.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showpost.php?p=61780561&postcount=84

mrdtv2010

http://www.utvmedia.com/resources/documents/U/T/V/UTV-HD-GOES-LIVE-ON-FREEVIEW-HD-NEXT-WEEK.docx

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/film-tv/news/utv-to-be-available-in-hd-on-freeview-16226434.html

Digifriendly

givecredit wrote: »

BBC1 NI HD Already testing on satellite at 28deg east . 10.847 V SR 22.000 FEC 5/6
Showing BBC1 LONDON HD with BBC1 NI 7 day epg.

I've entered these parameters but get no signal.

mrdtv2010

Digifriendly wrote: »

I've entered these parameters but get no signal.

They are wrong:

10847V, SR 23000, FEC 2/3. Only Freesat boxes can tune them, Sky boxes can't. Its service 6943.

http://www.lyngsat.com/Astra-1N.html

Transponder 50.

Digifriendly

mrdtv2010 wrote: »

They are wrong:

10847V, SR 23000, FEC 2/3. Only Freesat boxes can tune them, Sky boxes can't. Its service 6943.

http://www.lyngsat.com/Astra-1N.html

Transponder 50.

Many thanks for prompt reply.

Mr. Rabbit

mrdtv2010 wrote: »

They are wrong:

10847V, SR 23000, FEC 2/3. Only Freesat boxes can tune them, Sky boxes can't. Its service 6943.

http://www.lyngsat.com/Astra-1N.html

Transponder 50.

Yep, quite correct.

No signal found on my Sky HD box.

lawhec

BBC's The Magic Box page has now removed references to the programme being in HD.

mrdtv2010

lawhec wrote: »

BBC's The Magic Box page has now removed references to the programme being in HD.

As pointed out on DS earlier. Also can't be because its the day BEFORE DSO in Northern Ireland.

lawhec

mrdtv2010 wrote: »

As pointed out on DS earlier. Also can't be because its the day BEFORE DSO in Northern Ireland.

Only visit DS on the odd occasion these days so I didn't notice. Also there is the outside possibility that BBC One NI HD could launch on satellite before terrestrial, but it makes a bit more sense for it to be scheduled on the final day of DSO, if that's what happens.

mrdtv2010

lawhec wrote: »

Only visit DS on the odd occasion these days so I didn't notice. Also there is the outside possibility that BBC One NI HD could launch on satellite before terrestrial, but it makes a bit more sense for it to be scheduled on the final day of DSO, if that's what happens.

Yes, usually in testing period when they start playing the correct 7 day EPG data out on satellite you know they are getting ready to go. According to the satellite transponder websites (lyngsat, kingofsat) that second BBC1HD (which we now know is going to be BBC1NIHD) has actually been quietly testing for several weeks!