The Wire vs. The Sopranos

jimpump

these shows are the best ever...IMO id pick The Wire

someone get a poll up cos i dont have a clue how to

Degag

No need of a poll kiddo. Both fantastic shows but The Wire takes it every time. (imo)

Anyone who hasn't seen it.... watch it.

TeddyTedson

This is going to be locked or moved just to let you know, im a veteran round these parts so i knows;)
Haven't watched either though

Degag

TeddyTedson wrote: »

This is going to be locked or moved just to let you know, im a veteran round these parts so i knows;)
Haven't watched either though

Hot Lips is off duty so it might escape... LOL!!!

TeddyTedson

Degag wrote: »

Hot Lips is off duty so it might escape... LOL!!!

I wish they'd relax the modding a tad

Professional Griefer

Just started watching the Sopranos from the start a few weeks ago.

Show is brilliant.

Must watch the wire, don't think I've seen anything from it.

Father Damo

The Sopranos. Better characters, better acting, witty dialogue, better plots.

The Wire is somewhat overrated tbh, and has too many cliches and stock characters (alcoholic womanising cop, wow, never seen that one before). Its watchable but nowhere near deserving the plaudits it received. Oddly enough the same guys who made the Wire made a 6 part series in the mid 90s called The Corner, set in Baltimore about a pair of addicts and their teenage dealer son who soon seeps into using himself. Its 10 times better in terms of plot and acting, theres a great book on the same story as well. Yet nobody has ever heard of it!

jimpump

TeddyTedson wrote: »

This is going to be locked or moved just to let you know, im a veteran round these parts so i knows;)
Haven't watched either though

man you are missing out big time if ya havent seen these shows!!

Auvers

cant pick one


its impossible

Yakult

Hollyoaks!

TeddyTedson

jimpump wrote: »

man you are missing out big time if ya havent seen these shows!!

I know man people keep saying they're great, but I really don't watch much tv anymore. Not on purpose, it's just gone so rubbish over the years there's nothing I've gotten in to. Lost was the last show I watched, and that was stupid.

jimpump

Father Damo wrote: »

The Sopranos. Better characters, better acting, witty dialogue, better plots.

The Wire is somewhat overrated tbh, and has too many cliches and stock characters (alcoholic womanising cop, wow, never seen that one before). Its watchable but nowhere near deserving the plaudits it received. Oddly enough the same guys who made the Wire made a 6 part series in the mid 90s called The Corner, set in Baltimore about a pair of addicts and their teenage dealer son who soon seeps into using himself. Its 10 times better in terms of plot and acting, theres a great book on the same story as well. Yet nobody has ever heard of it!

ive seen The Corner and have to agree with ya, probably just as good as the wire if not better. still got to read the book, but im tryin hard to find it

i might have picked the sopranos only for the last 2 series let us down big time....and dont get me started on the final scene. what a loada bollox!!

Buceph

The Wire.

Watched Sopranos as it came out, and could never get into it. There was no redemption to any of the characters. And The Wire had that in spades, even the lowest of the drug addicts and crime lords had elements of humanity.

krudler

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I know man people keep saying they're great, but I really don't watch much tv anymore. Not on purpose, it's just gone so rubbish over the years there's nothing I've gotten in to. Lost was the last show I watched, and that was stupid.

The Wire will restore all faith in tv, a steady diet of the Wire, followed by The Sopranos, then to lighten things up Arrested Development, wash that down with Curb Your Enthusiasm then top it off with Boardwalk Empire. tv heaven. People who dont watch these shows genuinely dont know what they're missing.

Oranage2

havent seen either too - may if i find time watch sopranos though after hearing the wire is better, i may just go with that one!

Chuck Stone

If you want reality TV watch 'The Wire' If you want fantasy watch reality TV.

jimpump

+1

baltimore reminds me a bit of places ive lived like ballymun ha

RichieC

The wire take a dump on the sopranos.

Degag

Father Damo wrote: »

The Sopranos. Better characters, better acting, witty dialogue, better plots.

The Wire is somewhat overrated tbh, and has too many cliches and stock characters (alcoholic womanising cop, wow, never seen that one before). Its watchable but nowhere near deserving the plaudits it received. Oddly enough the same guys who made the Wire made a 6 part series in the mid 90s called The Corner, set in Baltimore about a pair of addicts and their teenage dealer son who soon seeps into using himself. Its 10 times better in terms of plot and acting, theres a great book on the same story as well. Yet nobody has ever heard of it!

Omar is probably one of them most intriging characters in any series ever.

One of his most famous scenes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYj7q_by_2E

McNulty (whom you are referring to) isn't as black and white either. Think Series 5?

krudler

Homicide: Life On The Street is well worth a watch as well, same style of show, set in Baltimore, but it focuses more on the cops than the criminals, at least for the first series, a lot of the cast of The Wire are in it too.

This thread made me look this clip up, now I want to watch it all again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmIvu1yg3bU

The opening to the best tv show ever.

pragmatic1

Both great shows but the sopranos ran out of steam a bit towards the end. I'd go with the wire.

jimpump

krudler wrote: »

The Wire will restore all faith in tv, a steady diet of the Wire, followed by The Sopranos, then to lighten things up Arrested Development, wash that down with Curb Your Enthusiasm then top it off with Boardwalk Empire. tv heaven. People who dont watch these shows genuinely dont know what they're missing.

man they are the only shows i record on me sky box, Curb is ****in hilharious but me bird doesnt get it at all.....add seinfeld to them shows and your sorted tele wise ha

and trailer park boys is gas aswell

RichieC

I watched the wire twice, I watched sopranos till I don't even know... I certainly didn't finish it.

eta

yanno.. I'm pretty sickened that they're even being compared like they're on the same level or something..

jimpump

Degag wrote: »

Omar is probably one of them most intriging characters in any series ever.

One of his most famous scenes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYj7q_by_2E

McNulty (whom you are referring to) isn't as black and white either. Think Series 5?

Stringer Bell and Marlo > Omar Lytle

hondasam

The simpsons

The wire

J. Marston

The Wire. Oh, indeed.

OutlawPete

Some will win, some will lose, some were born to sing the blues.

Chuck Stone

Degag wrote: »

McNulty (whom you are referring to) isn't as black and white either. Think Series 5?

Agreed.

McNulty is no hero - he's a self absorbed asshole who wants to 'win' he's an insecure muppet who can't take that his wife dumped him blah blah blah

McNulty 'they do not get to win we get to win'

Bunk on the other hand...

Bunk would have put Marlo away for the rest of his life within 'the rules' only for McNulty making a balls of things and lettin him get off.

Bunk and Omar are the only ones who live by an ethical code imo.

Degag

jimpump wrote: »

Stringer Bell and Marlo > Omar Lytle

Stringer is a superb character alright.

hondasam

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I wish they'd relax the modding a tad

The will hear you

you will be evicted.

Degag

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Agreed.

McNulty is no hero - he's a self absorbed asshole who wants to 'win' he's an insecure muppet who can't take that his wife dumped him blah blah blah

McNulty 'they do not get to win we get to win'

Bunk on the other hand...

Bunk would have put Marlo away for the rest of his life within 'the rules' only for McNulty making a balls of things and lettin him get off.

Bunk and Marlo are the only ones who live by an ethical code imo.

Yup, i mean was there any character on the show who didn't think he was an asshole?

ethical code? hmmm, it's a while since i watched it, but i guess so. Wouldn't have said Marlo after he killed Prop Joe though. What about the guy who killed Cheese?

jimpump

Degag wrote: »

Stringer is a superb character alright.

cant forget avon barksdale....i was pissed that he was gone after series 2

Saila

Sopranos is a classic at this stage

Degag

jimpump wrote: »

cant forget avon barksdale....i was pissed that he was gone after series 2

He wasn't though.

he was there until the end

krudler

Degag wrote: »

He wasn't though.

he was there until the end

Know why?

cos the king stay the king.

Chuck Stone

Degag wrote: »

Yup, i mean was there any character on the show who didn't think he was an asshole?

ethical code? hmmm, it's a while since i watched it, but i guess so. Wouldn't have said Marlo after he killed Prop Joe though. What about the guy who killed Cheese?

Yes Sir you are right - I said Marlo instead of Omar by mistake and ninja edited the OP

Yeah the guy who killed cheese seemed okay - Jesus Christ did I jump for joy when

cheese got iced

.

jimpump

Degag wrote: »

He wasn't though.

he was there until the end

dunno what the spoilers about but i think i get what ya mean
im pretty sure he appeared a few series' later talkin to someone? when he was locked up

TeddyTedson

hondasam wrote: »

The will hear you

you will be evicted.

The see and hear all.


Isn't the Sopranos finished now? How many series are there. Ive never seen a single episode but I know the big guy is called Tony and I think I know the last scene because they were talking about it on the radio at the time...:(

hondasam

TeddyTedson wrote: »

The see and hear all.


Isn't the Sopranos finished now? How many series are there. Ive never seen a single episode but I know the big guy is called Tony and I think I know the last scene because they were talking about it on the radio at the time...:(

you should buy the box set and watch it. The wire is very good as well. You will get hooked on them.

RichieC

TeddyTedson wrote: »

The see and hear all.


Isn't the Sopranos finished now? How many series are there. Ive never seen a single episode but I know the big guy is called Tony and I think I know the last scene because they were talking about it on the radio at the time...:(

It was desperate housewives with fking gangsters and all the who gives a sh*t that goes with it...

krudler

RichieC wrote: »

It was desperate housewives with fking gangsters and all the who gives a sh*t that goes with it...

Or it was one of the most brilliant tv shows ever.

jimpump

TeddyTedson wrote: »

The see and hear all.


Isn't the Sopranos finished now? How many series are there. Ive never seen a single episode but I know the big guy is called Tony and I think I know the last scene because they were talking about it on the radio at the time...:(

if ya have sky digital its on sky atlantic on channel 108, and they are 8 episodes in already but watch the rest and get series 1 on dvd

just checked there, 9.00 wednesday nights on ch.108

gonedrinking

I like these shows but preferred generation kill over the both of them, shame it was only a mini series

RichieC

krudler wrote: »

Or it was one of the most brilliant tv shows ever.

Well I agree it was decent, but it's a fking insult to the Wire that this thread was even started.

krudler

TeddyTedson wrote: »

The see and hear all.


Isn't the Sopranos finished now? How many series are there. Ive never seen a single episode but I know the big guy is called Tony and I think I know the last scene because they were talking about it on the radio at the time...:(

Just watch it for the love of god, you wont be disappointed, theres a reason its refered to as one of the greatest tv shows ever.

RichieC

gonedrinking wrote: »

I like these shows but preferred generation kill over the both of them, shame it was only a mini series

Was really good too. I remember the first episode I watched I actually though it was real...

krudler

RichieC wrote: »

Well I agree it was decent, but it's a fking insult to the Wire that this thread was even started.

Insult to The Wire? how? The Sopranos started long before The Wire did

edit, nevermind, read that post arseways

Buceph

RichieC wrote: »

Was really good too. I remember the first episode I watched I actually though it was real...

Thank christ it's not gay for a man to like Rudy.

jimpump

RichieC wrote: »

Well I agree it was decent, but it's a fking insult to the Wire that this thread was even started.

so you're sayin the sopranos is ****???? WTF

KnifeWRENCH

Have only seen the first season of The Wire so far and the first three seasons of The Sopranos. Need to watch more to give a fair comparison and decide which is better.

Biggest difference for me is that The Sopranos grabbed me from the very first episode, whereas The Wire is more slow burning and takes a while to get into. Have the entire Sopranos collection and seasons 2-4 of The Wire at home, can't wait til I eventually have the time to get stuck into them.

Imo though there are more TV shows out there, other than those two, that deserve to be considered contenders for "greatest show ever".

krudler

KnifeWRENCH wrote: »

Have only seen the first season of The Wire so far and the first three seasons of The Sopranos. Need to watch more to give a fair comparison.

Biggest difference for me is that The Sopranos grabbed me from the very first episode, whereas The Wire is more slow burning and takes a while to get into. Have the entire Sopranos collection and seasons 2-4 of The Wire at home, can't wait til I eventually have the time to get stuck into them.

Imo though there are more TV shows out there, other than those two, that deserve to be considered contenders for "greatest show ever".

*cough* Band of Brothers *cough*