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ALDI for Callan - again!!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    I only go to Callan now for the cheapish diesel :D If I want Tesco I go to either Waterford, Clonmel or Portlaoise, Its sad that Kilkenny is probably the only county in Ireland that doesnt have one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    It is a great pity that one has to travel so far to exercise one's democratic right to have a choice.
    Though not necessarily a lover of Tesco, one has only to go to any branch and see how many people do, so why can;t we have a branch in Kilkenny?
    In truth the question of Aldi is only the tip of the iceberg, there is much more beneath the surface.
    Whilst I did not believe the household charge thread and Phil Hogan in "Kilkenny City" had any connection with Callan, it would appear there is a lot of muddy water being stirred, it will be interesting to see the outcome.
    In the short term it may not necessarily be to our advantage, as our politicians start ducking and weaving.
    There could be questions asked how the council allowed Aldi into Loughboy and therefore, though the council did approve Aldi for Callan, we must go back to the people who do not want progress.
    As a matter of interest yesterday was a prime example of not having choice, I only wanted a couple of packet's of Ham, the display was almost non existent, a corner shop would have had more choice.
    Aldi would have solved that problem for sure.
    I see there are plans afoot for a new school in Callan for the junior's, bravo, when will they also build for the seniors.
    Technology and Science should be made priority for these young people to face today's world, well tomorrow's actually.
    It is like the rest of the story we must progress at all cost, I think we have had enough of corrupt bankers and politicians and a somewhat lack lustre Garda force who have a severe problem not being able to recruit.
    Come on wake up, let's get at a new world, with Aldi of course and Lidl if need be.
    It amazes me how these things come rolling out, but never mind have a lovely day and don 't forget the Deli, I should have gone there yesterday, and of course the Hunter Gatherer.
    My thanks to you all for your support, sincere regards :P:P:PFoxy


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    What a fantastic morning, without doubt spring has arrived, pity Aldi hasn't come with it.
    I need to do some serious shopping; so have to go to, either Clonmel or Kilkenny, if only I could say Callan.
    On Tuesday last week one of the daily paper's had an article regarding what is good for ones heart, it went on to list the prices and the shops who sold these items, Superquinn, Tesco and Aldi, these were everyday items and our Supervalu sold them, as does every other Supervalu.
    I cannot understand such bias journalism, it is not fair to to the trader's.
    Back to Aldi and progress for Callan, or lack of progress for Callan, as we are getting a new school this could signify more pupils.
    If we had another store it would give the mother's more choice, apart from the fact that you an go into the supermarket at 9am and find the bread hasn't arrived, or Musgraves haven't finished unloading.
    If you are stopping any competition, then we can't have a mickey mouse store, when the doors open it should be ready to go.
    I seldom buy own brand products, doesn't matter if it is Tesco, Dunnes or even Eurospar, I always get the impression that savings had to be made somewhere for items to be substantially cheaper.
    Well some early morning sunbathing, enjoy the day and if you are on your way to Dublin take great care.
    Thanks and sincere regards, :o:o:oFoxy


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    I have just read some of the extracts from the Mahon report, are we being somewhat niave in our opposition to the objection for Aldi coming to Callan.?
    Is there something below the surface, that if one stirs the water enough it might well come to the top?
    Are there reasons we have not heard from our elected representatives?
    Why are these people so opposed to competition?
    Seeing the size of the Supervalu site, and the fact that not a lot has been done to it since the car park came into being, much of it is untarmaced, are there plans afoot to?
    Having gone to Carrick on suir, which has both Aldi and Lidl with Supervalu, I am told the shop doing the most business is Supervalu, though my informant said it is a much more progressive shop than Callan.
    As much as our two owner's are friendly delightful men, so was Bertie Ahern come to that, the truth is we are being prevented from having CHOICE, not often I use capitals but, if we do not speak out where are we.
    One has only to look at Callan, hopefully the new deli is being supported and of course Hunter Gatherer and one tends to forget the little coffee shop, we shouldn't it was a very bold project.
    So is time we said to the objector's, put your cards on the table, why, and to our elected representatives what are you doing for us, after all who pays you, us so get on your bikes and look after us.
    Well then the sun is shining, what more can one ask for, have a happy restfull day, and did you put your clock forward last night?
    Sincere thanks;););)Foxy


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    I went to both Aldi and Lidl this morning after stopping off at Supervalu, having been to all three one wonders why the objector's are stopping Aldi.
    I guess it was plain to see, Aldi is bright, clean and well stocked, okay they don't hang about at the check out, after all it is a business transaction, not a meeting of the mother's union.
    Time is running out, can they not see the benefit's for Callan and the people? Are they so blinded by their own importance they can see no further than the end of their noses.
    Aldi might be a bitter pill to swallow, but we are talking about progress not being stuck in some 19th century run down hamlet.
    How long is it since our supermarket was upgraded?
    We have crooked politicians, at least we know who they are but we do not know for sure who these other's are, we think we know but there is a difference between thinking and knowing.
    As we have said Callan jobs before anything else, Callan people and remember it is our town, not someone else's.
    We want choice at all cost can you not see the pain on peoples faces when they are forced to shop in the one and only shop.
    I expect they will use the slogan one stop shopping before long, no point stopping anywhere else because there isn't any where else.
    It is too good a day to spend more time on waster's, miserable people, everyone else enjoy the sunshine, throw open the windows and let the warmth come in.
    Sincere regards as always , Foxy:cool::cool::cool::cool:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    What glorious weather, just right to tell the bamndit's holding Callan to ransom just where to go.
    We are fed up with corruption, underhanded dealing, and being denied our rightful freedom of choice.
    So to those who have not got the bottle to come out in the open, either come out or get out, is it greed that motivates you? Or are you just morally inept, we will stand no competition, go get lost.
    We want a choice and demand it, look at the state of Callan, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
    Give the council their due, they did pass the planning permission, only to be twarted by greedy and corrupt individuals who want everything for themselves.
    If these people employ staff, pity the staff, at least we can jump on the bus or get in the car and go.
    Let's face it there is no place in Callan for these people.
    Enjoy the sunshine at least they cannot tax it.
    Sincere thanks, Foxy:mad::mad::mad::mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    Any news on whether Aldi is coming to Callan???


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    Dear Autosport, thanks for your post, at the moment we are waiting for the official decision from Bord Peanola on 4th April.
    It will be dependent on that as to what happens, obviously if it is no, we are back to square one, shop in Clonmel or Kilkenny or Carrick on Suir.
    However if it is yes, we have to see what the objector's do next, apparently, it is quite easy for them to keep on objecting, until the firm gets fed up and walk's away.
    One of my reason's for carrying on the thread is, first the limitations bering placed on us, the people of Callan , as to where we can shop in our town.
    Secondly, what have these people to gain from stopping Aldi?
    We know RGDATA has been involved before, and it may well be they represent the supermarket, but it would be a speculative theory at this stage.
    Aldi would not affect anyone else as far as we can see, there may be a degree of fear on the part of a few other's but to be honest I would suggest it is not real, we are not dealing with a Tesco type supermarket.
    Though this Tesco arguement is nor clear cut, do we support very small shops who may not necessarily buy the amount of Irish produce that say Tesco does.
    What comes first Irish jobs, many Irish jobs or one small retailer?
    Is it not true that the many should benefit rather than one?
    Then you can ask; what has that one retailer contributed to Callan?
    It is not an easy decision.
    I find it very difficult that when I go into a national supermarket, with immense buying power that they charge 93cent's for a block of Stork margarine, and a little garage with a convenience shop attached charges 65cent for the same item, the difference has been for the last few month's, so who is taking the people of Callan for a ride?
    With fingers crossed we are nearly at the point the clock stops ticking.
    Thank you all and have a glorious day, sincere regards, Foxy:cool::cool::cool::cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    Good morning, I see the nose in the trough crowd have not withdrawn there objection to Aldi coming to our town.
    One could say they are sticking two fingers up to every man, woman and child in Callan. You will do it our way, whether you want to or not.
    What a lovely christian attitude, in times when families are stgruggling to make ends meet.
    I suspect it is not in their make up to give to the people of Callan, you don't need jobs, you shouldn't have spare cash, shop where we tell you.
    Actually these people go down well with some of our elected representatives, did you see that those who go to conferences are getting paid 95cents a mile, given one should get somewhere around 50 miles to the gallon, add that up it works out at 47.50, and if they drive 200 miles is it not 190euro.
    Of course no one would double up would they?
    So what about the stone "Welcome to Callan" as one comes off the by-pass, just what we needed.
    Apart from Aldi, there are a lot of things not making sense at the moment.
    We really do need a permanent Garda presence in Callan, someone in authority has lost their way, a good Garda is always a welcome sight.
    So what are our elected representatives doing in that respect?
    Why isn't Bridge street one way yet? Ah there by hangs a tale.
    Plenty to think of whilst the clock is ticking, do I shop in Clonmel or Kilkenny, petrol is cheaper in Clonmel.
    Have a good day, what about an Abbey Park and walk way?
    Time for breakfast, and whatever you do drive with care, if you break the speed limit what do you do with the time you save, it is always better to be late than "The Late"
    Sincere regards, Foxy;);););)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    Here we go again, what are the trough snuffer's doing now?
    Hopefully they will have seen the fact thaty Aldi are now sourcing milk from this side of the border, apparently one of the big Irish supermarket's doesn't.
    Aldi for Irish jobs?
    I expect the elected representatives are enjoying the weekend away at our expense, nice one, and with the car mileage ity must be sheer bliss.
    we are asked to cough up 100euro for these people to enjoy the weekends. so who does organise the conferences?
    Do we have a situation where we are watching another scam, and do family get included?
    Council services may be cut, we are told.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    That last post got cut off rather short, sorry.
    April fools day, what can we expect this week, a sign over supervalu saying welcome Aldi?
    The store will be closed for refurbishment? I doubt that, we are cleaning the checkout's, hardly worth the effort now, we will clean round the ATM, well it has been like it for some time.
    We are putting up protector's to stop little hands grabbing hold of the rolls, expect people have got used to that by now.
    Not a lot to look forward too is there, keep your fingers crossed for next week.
    Thanks a million for your support, sincere regards, Foxy:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    We went and had a look at Aldi in Bagnelstown today, there is also a supervalu and it would appear they are functioning well together
    So why are some people trying to block Aldi?
    We are aware there are some fairly negative types in Callan, and the sorry state of affairs is that we cannot do much about them.
    They know or should by now have cottoned on to what we think of them.
    Whilst in said town I picked up a copy of the free paper, the headline "The gravy Boat continues".
    Why we are being shafted by phil baby to pay money to the local council, the council is throwing it around willy nilly, sending our elected representatives on courses and costing us a small fortune.
    Again we are stuck, we without doubt, need a new party made up of genuine Irish Patriots.
    We find that the mob in power have done nothing on their manifesto, so what next.
    As the day's tick by we watch and wonder what the hell has happened to the freedom we had, it has gone.
    We can only suggest the current councillors don't get any more votes.

    Thanks from a very downhearted Foxy:P:P:P


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    Why do I go on about Aldi so much? It would be the same if it was Lidl or Dunnes or even Tesco.
    I do not support any one particular shop, yes I go into Supervalu probably because it is closer to hand, In essence I really would not rave about it as a Supermarket, I cannot understand why the checkout's are not spotless clean, in fact they are probably well past their sell by date.
    Of course, any new supermarket will make a difference to how people shop, it is like a child with a new toy.
    It is perhaps unfortunate we do not have the same supermarkets as the UK, apart from Tesco.
    I love shopping in Sainsbury and Morrison's, if they ever arrive our Supervalu will be history, there is so much that could be done to Supervalu.
    The aisle's are far too narrow, the shelf packing, especially glass bottles is frightening, far too many items are pushed to the back of the shelves.
    The owner's are there day in and day out why can't they see, the shop needs a lot more TLC.
    We wait to see what happen's this week, finger's crossed.
    Thanks a million for your support, Foxy:(:(:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    Good Morning, at this stage I am getting very nervous, but thank you for all of your support, it has helped so much.
    I was in with our butcher yesterday and suddenly it hit me, we have been brain washed to think supermarket.
    I had to choose what , and how much of each item I needed. there is no picking up a packet of this or a packet of that, no one had decided a packet of bacon will hold five slices or there are eight sausages to a packet.
    It felt like a new freedom, plus of course there was a fantastic choice of dishes, okay it isn't cheap, I know, but what does one expect from a supermarket chicken that cost's only 3 euro, not a lot.
    Not that Aldi have a butchery, however they do sell a good variety of meat, but try the butcher, you will enjoy yourself.
    Have a really super day off to Clonmel, I need to check out why supervalu cut price Conaught Gold spread has gone back to the original price and Dunnes are still selling at 2 euro.
    I do have other business of course.
    Well fingers tightly crossed folks, thanks as always, Foxy


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    It was a good day in Clonmel yesterday, though I never made it round to Tesco, it was Dunnes that got most of the money, it is the pleasure of having space to shop, plus of course the variety of choice.
    If I was nervous of the closeness of the final decision yesterday, I have this morning decided there is nothing else to be done, the greedy, we don't want competition mob are bent on ruining Callan.
    What on earth is their reasoning, there are people trying to run small businesses, putting money into Callan, and these idiots are stopping people coming to the town.
    Whether one likes it or not the more shops, the more business is generated. We haven't got one woman's shop , not that Aldi specialises in
    Women's clothing but they do, do clothing.
    The men have O'Brien's, and a very good shop it is but it cater's for typical Callan people.
    Callan needs to progress, it cannot stay in the dark ages, look at Mullinahone, no one has a reason for going there, Ballingarry super little village no reason to go there either, Kilmaganny, Dunnamagen the same,
    Bridge St, Callan, it is dire, pathetic, do we want the rest of Callan the same?
    Come on give the town and the people a chance, remember Jobs for Callan, and I haven't forgotten more and better education facilities for our town.
    Breakfast, porridge, Flahavan's, lovely jubbly, haved a lovely day bujt wrap up warm t'is chilly out there, sincere and geniune regards, Foxy:cool::cool::cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    At least the sun is shining, though it looks cold, well what is it to be?
    We are probably coming to an end of our post's which ever way the decision goes.
    I will not ever thank the people who are trying to get us to shop in one supermarket. Why would anyone try and limit the choice of people, unless they are protecting or trying to protect their income.
    Do they not see that more people will increase their options?
    I will not accept that we have to shop in dingy unkept stores, it is not hygenic, though one could argue all produce is wrapped. I don't believe that arguement would stand up.
    Well today, I will be very quiet and hope to hear Callan is going to progress into the future.
    For the sake of Callan people, Callan jobs and most of all our children.
    Thank you so much for the support, it has been a pleasure, sincerest regards, Foxy:o:o:o


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭nhg


    I don't know if we will know anything today :cool:,

    I rang a few mins ago and was told 'its at board level', I said that it has been at board level since February when we were supposed to have a decision, he said to call back in the afternoon and it might have been updated on his computer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    Nhg thanks a million, sitting here wondering, appreciate support, be in touch, Foxy


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭nhg


    'Decision Deferred' new date not available yet:cool:

    Another wait, but hopefully it will be worth the wait.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    Thanks again, why so long? seems to be draggng, perhaps we can get
    `the objectors to withdraw whilst we are waiting?
    Appreciate your help, thanks a million, Foxy;););)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    I heard today that Aldi will be coming to Callan next year, They're looking at what sites are available and other stuff :) Hope that cheers you up Fox ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    To autosport: You have sure made the night, great news, so will adopt a much more cheerful approach and enjoy the Easter break. Thank you and everyone else for the support it has been brilliant
    To those who are opposing Aldi coming to our town, we give you the curse of our ancestors, may the flea's of the camel fall upon you, and multiply in large number's.
    Enjoy Easter, and not too many egg's, though I have received the writing of a Chinese prophet, who says one should not go to our maker with a perfectly shaped and honed body, it should be with a body that is completely worn out, and we just manage to slide into the casket.
    Have great fun and thanks. Foxy;);););)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    Good Friday, time just flies, I guess the religious aspect is the main theme of the holiday, though like so many things of the past, the wind of change has swept in.
    Aldi, as Autosport tells us we will have our wish next year, which is good news to say the least, all we have to do now is get our local supermarket to get with it.
    One would think minced meat, was the same wherever it was purchased from, well at least I would have. I buy best mince as it looks much less fatty than the other, however as I preach about John the butcher, I had some of his best mince, I kid you not, the shepherd's, I know it is cottage pie, was out of this world, it bore no resemblance to any supermarket meat, all i say is go and try it, you won't go back to a supermarket for meat.
    Yesterday must have been a bad day, the only lettuce was some miserable looking objects, other than the bagged stuff, no wedges and no low fat milk unless you wanted Avonmore, at their price, no.
    I gave up, you cannot run a supermarket half hearted, I could do my weeks shopping in Carrick on Suir, Supervalu, except the meat, or Loughboy, but certainly not in Callan.
    So dear objector's, enjoy your fame as the people who are trying to put Callan back into the dark ages, the petrol stations will thank you, so will the bus companies and taxi driver's.
    Those who cannot or unable to travel what do they do? You obviously do not care one little bit, it is a waste of time saying to you Callan people, Callan jobs or even Callan children, you are so caught up in your own greedy importance, you no time for anyone else./
    There is no point in telling you the Easter message you wouldn't recognise it if it came out and hit you in the face.
    Peace on Earth and Goodwill to all, try it.
    To everyone else I sincerely hope Easter will bring Peace on Earth and Goodwill to all men,women and children, irrespective of colour,race,creed, we are all God's children. Foxy


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    Easter over, oh dear it was such a lovely break. Worried about whether or not aldi wll be coming to our town, the decision is taking a long time.
    Problem is we are dealing with a very professional dissenter, so perhaps we do not stand a chance of winning.
    Guess it will be back to Kilkenny or Clonmel, or Carrick on Suir for the weekly shop. Though I will try to buy as much as possible from john the butcher, his meat is superb, not saying it is cheap but you won't regret going to him.
    Will pop into our dreaded supermarket to see if anything has changed before going to Loughboy.
    Will be back with an update later, till then enjoy the day, regards to all.
    Foxy:P:P:P


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    I got to Loughboy, the supervalu there is something else, it is so good I found it difficult to keep my money in my pocket, the place was crowded, since the advent of Lidl and Aldi, it has been such a success, well so it seems.
    Despite going into Lidl there were items they do not stock, so it was pop into supervalu.
    Anyone with a clear mind can see that is exactly what will happen in Callan, if we get the chance, however me
    thinks some of the people involved are so prejudiced they would prevent Aldi coming out of spite.
    We will see what happens tomorrow, regards to everyone, Foxy


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    T'is a cold and frosty morn, there is apparently no news on the Aldi front, it is still wait and see.
    I really would like to know what is happening, I am not sure if it is anticipation or frustration, we will just have to hope a while longer.
    Now, what about the people who are the cause of the problem, the greedy, spiteful and we do not care what happens to Callan people.
    There is such a need for jobs any would be welcome, but no these people who have the audacity to walk round with the people who they are denying the freedom of choice, the opportunity of a job.
    How do they look everyone in the face? I really cannot fathom them out.
    Of course, the elected representatives are mute on the subject, well we must understand they have no wish to upset their gravy train.
    It might help if there was a web page, "Callan for the future" with their thought's of the future of our town, and what they are trying to achieve.
    Then it makes one wonder who is actually shaping Callan for the future, interesting point?
    On that note I will partake of my daily Flahavan's porridge oats, have a reaslly super day, sincere thanks to all, Foxy:eek::eek::eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    Still no news of Aldi, though people are asking, when.
    Our supermarket was doing well yesterday, it seemed to be buzzing, hey if you are a coffee drinker, Nescafe Gold Blend 100gram is only 3.00, the 50cc size is 2.92, so get a few 100 grams in and save money.
    I know it is difficult, especially if money is short, and to be honest who isn't these days, but shopping local has advantages, I really do save by not buying, if that makes sense.
    Do enjoy the weekend and let's hope they put us out of our misery next week.
    Take care and drive safely, thanks, Foxy:cool::cool::cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭nhg


    Seeming all decisions, not just ALDI are delayed at present at An Bord Pleanala as they are down 4 panel members since December due to retirement and contracts not being renewed, but the Minister has now appointed 4 new members who are due to start at the end of May i think, so it will be a few weeks at least before we know anything. They have a major backlog to deal with.

    No news is good news i hope.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    Hi, nothing has changed, as we have been told another wait, though it is frustrating, there is nothing we can do.
    It is still a great shame these people want to oppose Aldi coming, why oh why.
    Carrick on Suir has both Lidl and Aldi as well as Supervalu, though I must say the Supervalu there is superb, the choice you will not believe, free parking and an interesting high st, great place for shoes.
    If you are not a lover of supervalu meat, there is a small butcher just up the road, very similar to John.
    Want a coffee then you have a coffee or tea shop almost opposite.
    Carrick is well worth a trip.
    Then I went to Kilkenny, and did a quick shop in Superquinn, you would never guess it was part of Musgraves, there was bargains galore, the poor baby had a buggy loaded with things I hadn't meant to buy, such was the amount on offer.
    The down side being after the free hour, paying for the car park, but then I could have gone to loughboy.
    We will keep our finger's crossed,hope the objector's will see sense, though I have my doubts.
    Have a nice day, regards and thanks, Foxy


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭foxcoverteddy


    No signs as yet that we can have a choice in Callan? If only the people who are stopping progress would admit Callan is only half a town.
    Half of it is dead, with no hope of recovery, if it wasn't for John the butcher and Joe and his flower's there would be no choice.
    Supervalu really undermine Joe's veg, sorry but a small shop cannot compete with them, they sell veg I think at a better price than Aldi even.
    Though supermarket fruit and veg is fresher by virtue of the turnover.
    I was in Kilkenny yesterday and the farm shop on the corner of the Kells Road has gone, well the amount of competition would have done it.
    Come on Callan wants and need's choice, how backward do these peoiple want to see our town?
    The elected reps, who are they? What are they doing? They couldn't even get the pavement past Joe's done, what a shower.


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