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  • 16-04-2011 4:11pm
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    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭


    What are the criteriea for for sale ads in forums

    i understand why airsoft and shooting have their for sale ads to keep the guns and gun replicas off the adverts.ie; but why for example can you post a classic car ad in classic cars but not a motorbike in motorbikes

    a bike in cycling but not a fishing rod in angling

    a golf club in golf but not a hockey stick in hockey

    a canoe in canoeing (sp?) or a scuba mask in scubaing but not an i-pod in i-poding


    seems like it should be one rule or another

    put simply : can we please have a for sale thread in motorbikes
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    Gordon
    Registered Users Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    http://www.adverts.ie/for-sale/cars-motorbikes-boats/motorbikes/47


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    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Gordon wrote: »
    http://www.adverts.ie/for-sale/cars-motorbikes-boats/motorbikes/47

    thank you for your long and thought provoking reply

    the classic cars forum has a supplementary for sale thread
    there is a for sale vintage and classic cars section in adverts

    http://www.adverts.ie/for-sale/cars-motorbikes-boats/vintage-classic/106/


    and i would like the same for the users of the motorbike forum


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    Gordon
    Registered Users Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Tigger wrote: »
    thank you for your long and thought provoking reply
    It wasn't long or thought provoking, but you're welcome for the info on where to buy motorbikes on boards :)


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    KamiKazi
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭KamiKazi


    Gordon wrote: »
    It wasn't long or thought provoking, but you're welcome for the info on where to buy motorbikes on boards :)

    Any chance you could stop being so ignorant and answer his question?


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    #6
    -Chris-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    It depends on the forums and the mods.

    I wouldn't be happy for there to be a For Sale thread in Motors as it would be manic busy and open to abuse, and potentially a whole load of work for little benefit.

    Unkel is happy to have a For Sale section in Classic cars. He obviously feels it is a worthwhile addition to the community and that it is worth the hassle of maintenance.

    Each forum has its own rules and its own community. If you want to know why a particular forum doesn't have a For Sale thread, PM the local mod.

    As you know, there's currently discussion of whether Motorbikes should have a For Sale thread. It'll come down to whether it's needed (i.e. in addition to adverts.ie) and whether it will create additional hassle for the mods.



    Edit: I just saw this in the Motorbikes thread
    P.C. wrote: »
    Sorry, but for the moment this is not going to happen.

    I asked the 'powers that be' and was told that that is what www.adverts.ie is there for.

    I am trying for a thread where you can post a link to the advert in adverts.ie.

    So we have a reason why Motorbikes won't get a For Sale thread already. Is it that you want all the other For Sale threads shut down as you don't feel it's fair, or do you think boards.ie should compete with adverts.ie as a place to sell motorbikes?


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    Gordon
    Registered Users Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    KamiKazi wrote: »
    Any chance you could stop being so ignorant and answer his question?
    I don't have the answer mate, only a solution :)


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    KamiKazi
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭KamiKazi


    No we want an answer why it won't happen, instead of being told it isn't going to happen.


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    -Chris-
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    What advantage does a one-post per user, no discussion, use-a-template thread have over Adverts.ie?


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    AckwelFoley
    Registered Users Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Tigger wrote: »
    thank you for your long and thought provoking reply
    KamiKazi wrote: »
    Any chance you could stop being so ignorant and answer his question?
    KamiKazi wrote: »
    No we want an answer why it won't happen, instead of being told it isn't going to happen.

    Ladies and gentlemen, this is how NOT to endear yourself to the powers that be.

    "hello Mr DJ, can you play this song for me you ignorant wanker"

    *stone wall no*

    "Play it for me ****forbrains"

    *not even listening to request even though the entire DJ desk is made from stacks of discs of the song you want*


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    KamiKazi
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭KamiKazi


    Invaluable input snyper, thanks for that.

    Chris, it will stop the thread from becoming a burden on the mods of the forum, as there will be no arguments about a bike being overpriced, in poor condition, etc etc.


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    -Chris-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    No, I know why it's one post each, no discussion etc., but I'm wondering what advantage that has over an adverts.ie ad.

    No photos, no ability to discuss, no place to place an offer, poor searchability etc. etc.

    What's the advantage/purpose of the thread?


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    KamiKazi
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭KamiKazi


    Same reason that any other forum has a for sale thread


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    -Chris-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    So you want one because other people have one, even though a superior solution is available?


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    KamiKazi
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭KamiKazi


    -Chris- wrote: »
    So you want one because other people have one, even though a superior solution is available?

    If we thought adverts.ie was the superior solution this thread wouldn't be here.


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    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    -Chris- wrote: »
    It depends on the forums and the mods.

    I wouldn't be happy for there to be a For Sale thread in Motors as it would be manic busy and open to abuse, and potentially a whole load of work for little benefit.

    Unkel is happy to have a For Sale section in Classic cars. He obviously feels it is a worthwhile addition to the community and that it is worth the hassle of maintenance.

    Each forum has its own rules and its own community. If you want to know why a particular forum doesn't have a For Sale thread, PM the local mod.

    As you know, there's currently discussion of whether Motorbikes should have a For Sale thread. It'll come down to whether it's needed (i.e. in addition to adverts.ie) and whether it will create additional hassle for the mods.



    Edit: I just saw this in the Motorbikes thread


    So we have a reason why Motorbikes won't get a For Sale thread already. Is it that you want all the other For Sale threads shut down as you don't feel it's fair, or do you think boards.ie should compete with adverts.ie as a place to sell motorbikes?

    thats not a reason
    PC was told no because the powers that be won't let him so i'm asking if we can please have a reason that, for example classics can have a thread when there is a classic section in adverts but we can't have a thread in motorbikes


    i didn't for one second think that the other threads should be shut


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    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    we give goods advice on bikes on fixing bikes on riding bikes on the overly complicated bike laws

    thats what goes on in classics the two forums are similar

    also run to the hills and i both ride classic bikes and drive classic cars

    why not give us the thread and if it hard to police then close it


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    -Chris-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    KamiKazi wrote: »
    If we thought adverts.ie was the superior solution this thread wouldn't be here.

    Excellent, then maybe I can ask this again:
    -Chris- wrote: »
    What's the advantage/purpose of the thread?

    because last time I got a "just because" answer, which seems to be unacceptable. :)


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    #19
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    the community (rermber thats what boards is) of m-bikes could sell each other their bikes

    the 266 odd bikes for sale on adverts are nearly all by non boardsies like done deal or buy and sell

    we as a community could sell to each other with trust etc


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    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    here is an example first one i clicked

    http://www.adverts.ie/car/other-motorbikes/other-motorbikes/mini-chopper-harley-50cc/547013

    this guy has sold 16 times on adverts but has only posted on boards once

    so he sells on adverts but isn't a boardsie

    i cant make it any clearer but being a boardsie used to count for something at least round here


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    #21
    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users Posts: 13,995 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    -Chris- wrote: »
    What advantage does a one-post per user, no discussion, use-a-template thread have over Adverts.ie?

    Knowledge of the poster and the sale. Seeing that KTRIC is selling his ZZR1400, knowing that he treated it well from his posts over the years and its a good deal might make me interested in a bike I wasn't looking to buy. Or KamiKazi's mint SV. The thread with one post per sale linking to adverts would make me aware at least that he was selling.

    Its a community thing, something I thought boards.ie was all about.


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    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    have you a link to that zzr1400?


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    -Chris-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    Cuddlesworth wrote: »
    Its a community thing, something I thought boards.ie was all about.

    To me, that's all it's about, I'm just questioning the logic out of curiosity.

    Me personally, I'd be happy putting the ad on adverts and putting the link in my sig. The same community would see the ad and anybody interested could contact me.


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    #24
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    -Chris- wrote: »
    To me, that's all it's about, I'm just questioning the logic out of curiosity.

    Me personally, I'd be happy putting the ad on adverts and putting the link in my sig. The same community would see the ad and anybody interested could contact me.

    if a friend asked me to look out for a bike for him a for sale thread gives me a first stop

    otherwise i have to randomly encounter a sig

    and some people (me) turn off sigs


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    Mr Magnolia
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,433 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Magnolia


    I allow a thread in the Coffee forum pointing to an adverts.ie sale as the equipment is obviously fairly niche. If I ever felt the forum was getting overrun with threads (which it certainly isn't) I'd put up a 'General FS' sticky for the regular users to take advantage of and benefit from.

    No harm in suggesting something similar to the relevant moderators elsewhere, it's all dependant on the forum and it's users though.


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    Steve
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    One of the advantages of using adverts over a thread on boards is the users and mods are more clued in on how to spot scammers and timewasters etc.

    That said, there are definite benefits to keeping sales within the relevant community on boards and I will always respect that. You know who you aree dealing with and chances are if the seller is an active member then you know the history behind what's for sale.

    Endgame is if you want a wider audience then use adverts / carzone / donedeal / whatever but if you want to sell within the circle or people you are happy with and trust then a thread here is better. :)


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    Tigger
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    Steve wrote: »
    One of the advantages of using adverts over a thread on boards is the users and mods are more clued in on how to spot scammers and timewasters etc.

    That said, there are definite benefits to keeping sales within the relevant community on boards and I will always respect that. You know who you aree dealing with and chances are if the seller is an active member then you know the history behind what's for sale.

    Endgame is if you want a wider audience then use adverts / carzone / donedeal / whatever but if you want to sell within the circle or people you are happy with and trust then a thread here is better. :)

    while i agree 100% with this i would like to ad that we want the thread so we can buy off genuine people no so we can sell

    the sellerts would be genuine community members by default


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    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Mr Magnolia wrote: »
    I allow a thread in the Coffee forum pointing to an adverts.ie sale as the equipment is obviously fairly niche. If I ever felt the forum was getting overrun with threads (which it certainly isn't) I'd put up a 'General FS' sticky for the regular users to take advantage of and benefit from.

    No harm in suggesting something similar to the relevant moderators elsewhere, it's all dependant on the forum and it's users though.

    we did but Pc (our mod) wasn't allowed the higher ups said he had to use adverts


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    Steve
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    I'm not disagreeing Tigger. Is there a link to somewhere that the mod concerned told you it was disallowed by the admis? Just curious about that. :)


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    -Chris-
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    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=71687029#post71687029


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    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Steve wrote: »
    I'm not disagreeing Tigger. Is there a link to somewhere that the mod concerned told you it was disallowed by the admis? Just curious about that. :)

    i know you wern'rt steve (i know your hard work from airsoft ads) i was just adding to it

    the link is in the 6th post on this thread or here for you convinence
    P.C. wrote: »
    Sorry, but for the moment this is not going to happen.

    I asked the 'powers that be' and was told that that is what www.adverts.ie is there for.

    I am trying for a thread where you can post a link to the advert in adverts.ie.


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