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    #4352
    EternalHope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭EternalHope


    Xenophile wrote: »
    As far as I know he did not say anything.

    To answer your second question no he did not create the jobs, but did create the field where the factory is built.

    In the words of The Bull McCabe".............."God created the world but we created the field"
    alan kelly created the field where the factory is built? Supposes he created the streets where the homeless sleep too


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    #4353
    Xenophile
    Registered Users Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    EternalHope wrote: »
    alan kelly created the field where the factory is built? Supposes he created the streets where the homeless sleep too

    As far as I know there are no homeless people sleeping on the streets of Clonmel.

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



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    #4354
    questionmark?
    Registered Users Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    EternalHope wrote: »
    and what did alan kelly say? did he create these jobs too

    Oh for Gods sake. The poster posted a good news story about high end jobs for the area. In addition to those jobs it shows the site is getting investment so other jobs there seem secure. He didn't mention anything about Alan Kelly but you had to bring him into it. Is no one allowed post good news without someone having a go at the government or thrown out the homeless line!

    Great news. High end jobs. Positive stuff.


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    #4355
    snipey
    Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭snipey


    Alan Kelly wasn't even born when MSD moved into that field


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    #4356
    Maymack
    Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Maymack


    Heard the extension to the cinema is meant to be starting next month. Hopefully its true. Could do with more screens


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    #4357
    dieselbug
    Registered Users Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭dieselbug


    questionmark? wrote: »
    Oh for Gods sake. The poster posted a good news story about high end jobs for the area. In addition to those jobs it shows the site is getting investment so other jobs there seem secure. He didn't mention anything about Alan Kelly but you had to bring him into it. Is no one allowed post good news without someone having a go at the government or thrown out the homeless line!

    Great news. High end jobs. Positive stuff.


    Am I missing something or is there a post missing.

    I mean the original good news post, where is it? Lost somewhere between post 4348 and 4349!!!


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    #4358
    EternalHope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭EternalHope


    questionmark? wrote: »
    Oh for Gods sake. The poster posted a good news story about high end jobs for the area. In addition to those jobs it shows the site is getting investment so other jobs there seem secure. He didn't mention anything about Alan Kelly but you had to bring him into it. Is no one allowed post good news without someone having a go at the government or thrown out the homeless line!

    Great news. High end jobs. Positive stuff.
    anyone is allowed post anything they like...including me about Kelly so long as it is in the forum rules. you do not say what i post. don't like - don't have to read
    Great news. High end jobs. Positive stuff
    yes fro the people in the know who will get them


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    #4359
    Clonmel1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    EternalHope wrote: »
    anyone is allowed post anything they like...including me about Kelly so long as it is in the forum rules. you do not say what i post. don't like - don't have to readyes fro the people in the know who will get them

    How do you mean People in the know'?


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    #4360
    Xenophile
    Registered Users Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    Xenophile wrote: »
    40 of the new jobs will be created ted at MSD’s R&D facility at Ballydine in Co Tipperary.

    Commenting on the announcement, Associate Vice President and Site Lead at MSD in Ballydine, Co Tipperary Ger Carmody said the new employees “will play a key role in delivering MSD's overall ambition to preserve and improve human life.
    dieselbug wrote: »
    Am I missing something or is there a post missing.

    I mean the original good news post, where is it? Lost somewhere between post 4348 and 4349!!!

    Good news post above, if you think there is some reason why you think that this is not a good news post, please let us all know.

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



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    #4361
    snipey
    Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭snipey


    your right about people in the know, you will have to be related to some one down there because that's who are getting in there now.all relatives.


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    #4362
    EternalHope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭EternalHope


    snipey wrote: »
    your right about people in the know, you will have to be related to some one down there because that's who are getting in there now.all relatives.
    now? you think its new?


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    #4363
    questionmark?
    Registered Users Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    EternalHope wrote: »
    anyone is allowed post anything they like...including me about Kelly so long as it is in the forum rules. you do not say what i post. don't like - don't have to readyes fro the people in the know who will get them

    That is true you can post if its within the forum rules and I never said otherwise. It doesnt mean I dont think its a grumpy post that had no relevance to what another poster said.

    This is the Clonmel thread and I don't think it's too much to ask for some positive posts about what is a good news story. These jobs are high paying and will support other jobs in local services as well.

    As for people in the know only getting jobs, considering the qualifications that will be required for these roles it won't be just a case of known mammys boss unless you can evidence you have the skills and experience for the role.

    The extension to the cinema is also good news story. Considering whats happening in Market Place with the rates I think it's good that the town has got some good news.


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    #4364
    Jakey Rolling
    Registered Users Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Jakey Rolling


    snipey wrote:
    your right about people in the know, you will have to be related to some one down there because that's who are getting in there now.all relatives.


    As a private company I guess they are entitled to operate a referral policy to reward existing staff. Presumably new hires need to be qualified Organic Chemists, Process Engineers etc with pharma experience - just going by some of the current jobs listed on MSD website.

    100412.2526@compuserve.com



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    #4365
    EternalHope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭EternalHope


    questionmark? wrote: »
    That is true you can post if its within the forum rules and I never said otherwise. It doesnt mean I dont think its a grumpy post that had no relevance to what another poster said.

    This is the Clonmel thread and I don't think it's too much to ask for some positive posts about what is a good news story. These jobs are high paying and will support other jobs in local services as well.

    As for people in the know only getting jobs, considering the qualifications that will be required for these roles it won't be just a case of known mammys boss unless you can evidence you have the skills and experience for the role.

    The extension to the cinema is also good news story. Considering whats happening in Market Place with the rates I think it's good that the town has got some good news.
    I am not obliged to make any posts to suit what you don't think is too much. So there is no further diagreement understand i will post what i want and will not make any excuses to you. if you want to post positive news go ahead.Don't tell me what t. post Think something grumpy or irrelevant if you want


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    #4366
    snipey
    Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭snipey


    Jakey Rolling wrote: »
    As a private company I guess they are entitled to operate a referral policy to reward existing staff. Presumably new hires need to be qualified Organic Chemists, Process Engineers etc with pharma experience - just going by some of the current jobs listed on MSD website.
    I'm not saying there is anything wrong taking on relatives, I actually think it's a good thing as it gives locals jobs.


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    #4367
    questionmark?
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    EternalHope wrote: »
    I am not obliged to make any posts to suit what you don't think is too much. So there is no further diagreement understand i will post what i want and will not make any excuses to you. if you want to post positive news go ahead.Don't tell me what t. post Think something grumpy or irrelevant if you want

    I didn't ask you to post anything that suits me I welcome informed and constructive posts even if I don't agree with them.


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    #4368
    dieselbug
    Registered Users Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭dieselbug


    Xenophile wrote: »
    40 of the new jobs will be created ted at MSD’s R&D facility at Ballydine in Co Tipperary.

    Commenting on the announcement, Associate Vice President and Site Lead at MSD in Ballydine, Co Tipperary Ger Carmody said the new employees “will play a key role in delivering MSD's overall ambition to preserve and improve human life.

    You misunderstand me.
    The first part of your post is worded in a way that made me think it was in response to a post announceing this news. It left me wondering if a post had been removed or deleted, that's all.
    Xenophile wrote: »
    Good news post above, if you think there is some reason why you think that this is not a good news post, please let us all know.

    Of course it's good news, MSD has been an employer of high quality jobs since the 70's and hopefully will continue to be for many years to come.


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    #4369
    EternalHope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭EternalHope


    snipey wrote: »
    I'm not saying there is anything wrong taking on relatives, I actually think it's a good thing as it gives locals jobs.
    Only some locals. And it creates a situation where some families have two or three in a factory and others none. I had friends who were in that situation but in Dublin they prospered and say the best thing to come out of Clonmel is the road to Dublin

    All jobs are supposed to be advertised for everyone.


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    #4370
    EternalHope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭EternalHope


    questionmark? wrote: »
    I didn't ask you to post anything that suits me I welcome informed and constructive posts even if I don't agree with them.
    That's fine just don't expect me to post what you consider informed and constructive. I will post what i consider relevant


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    #4371
    Wrongway1985
    Registered Users Posts: 6,374 ✭✭✭Wrongway1985


    I'd say Kellyophile won't be happy Gerry Addams in town at 3 today


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    #4372
    Xenophile
    Registered Users Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    EternalHope wrote: »
    Only some locals. And it creates a situation where some families have two or three in a factory and others none. I had friends who were in that situation but in Dublin they prospered and say the best thing to come out of Clonmel is the road to Dublin

    All jobs are supposed to be advertised for everyone.

    Quite a needless cynical comment!

    These are high end jobs and the applicants will need a third level degree in this specialist area.

    On the question of more than one family member working for the same company, in many cases this makes very good business sense. If an existing family member has already proven to be a conscientious and a dedicated worker of course the HR department should take this into account if the applicant is suitably qualified.

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



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    #4373
    Clonmel1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    EternalHope wrote: »
    Only some locals. And it creates a situation where some families have two or three in a factory and others none. I had friends who were in that situation but in Dublin they prospered and say the best thing to come out of Clonmel is the road to Dublin

    All jobs are supposed to be advertised for everyone.
    I have friends in Dublin who say the best thing about Dublin is the road to anywhere out of there. Personally id live anywhere before id live in that excuse for a city.


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    #4374
    EternalHope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭EternalHope


    Xenophile wrote: »
    Quite a needless cynical comment!

    These are high end jobs and the applicants will need a third level degree in this specialist area.

    On the question of more than one family member working for the same company, in many cases this makes very good business sense. If an existing family member has already proven to be a conscientious and a dedicated worker of course the HR department should take this into account if the applicant is suitably qualified.
    It does not make sense to the people discriminated against and it is not because they are good workers, just plain old nepotism, some of the discriminated may be just as good but do not get chance.


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    #4375
    EternalHope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭EternalHope


    Xenophile wrote: »
    As far as I know there are no homeless people sleeping on the streets of Clonmel.
    No wealthy champagne socialist is homeless in Clonmel any way but some are

    http://clonmelonline.com/2015/02/new-group-launched-to-help-out-the-homeless-people-in-clonmel/


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    #4376
    notharrypotter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭notharrypotter


    It does not make sense to the people discriminated against
    It is not required to make sense to anyone but the employer.

    If they have an employee who has a proven track record. Then they are more likely to place a greater weight on a suitably qualified individual who is recommended by a valued current employee.
    some of the discriminated may be just as good
    Possibly but equally they may be worse.

    If given a choice as an employer which would you go for.


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    #4377
    snipey
    Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭snipey


    most of the jobs are already filled, as in they took on 12 operators and around 12 maintenance techs so the rest will be chemists etc


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    #4378
    Xenophile
    Registered Users Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    Wrongway1985 wrote: »
    I'd say Kellyophile won't be happy Gerry Addams in town at 3 today


    I was afraid to come out today !. Has Gerry Adams gone home yet ?. I could not bear to look on his red scarf as I think there is too much blood on it.

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



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    #4379
    Clonmel1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    EternalHope wrote: »
    No wealthy champagne socialist is homeless in Clonmel any way but some are

    http://clonmelonline.com/2015/02/new-group-launched-to-help-out-the-homeless-people-in-clonmel/

    One rough sleeper in Clonmel. Has refused countless offers of accommodation.


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    #4380
    Vizzy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,535 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    Clonmel1000 wrote: »
    One rough sleeper in Clonmel. Has refused countless offers of accommodation.

    I think I know the rough sleeper that you are referring to and I agree that he doesn't(or didn't until recently) want accommodation.
    However, there are at least 7 (that I know of) that are currently sleeping rough.
    All would be complex cases and most have a history of substance abuse.


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    #4381
    EternalHope
    Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭EternalHope


    notharrypotter wrote: »
    It is not required to make sense to anyone but the employer.

    If they have an employee who has a proven track record. Then they are more likely to place a greater weight on a suitably qualified individual who is recommended by a valued current employee.


    Possibly but equally they may be worse.

    If given a choice as an employer which would you go for.
    Jobs should be for everyone not for the select few which is creating poverty. yet when the people with two or three in a factory lose their jobs they cry to everyone. people here excusing nepotism represent a small sample of people in Tipperary, not everyone is as happy with nepotism. they can keep their jobs and their products and their cronyism. There are plenty other manufacturers to support


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