Clonmel Thread

Qreq

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Looks like the China Kitchen Chinese ran into a little bother.

https://www.thesun.ie/news/2274368/six-irish-takeaways-and-food-businesses-forced-to-shut-after-being-issued-with-closure-orders-as-rodent-dropping-and-filth-cause-issues/

Thanks for the heads up. Since it's not their first closure (another commenter found they had been shut down in 2016), I took the opportunity to visit the Food Safety Authority's publicly accessible closure orders to see China Kitchen's failures this time. https://www.fsai.ie/uploadedFiles/Enforcement_and_Audit/Orders/CO-003-02-2018_R.pdf

Here are the failures for those who don't click links:

The premises had not been cleaned in a considerable time and this was evident from mould growth on surfaces adjacent to food storage and preparation, heavy build up of grease and food debris in a number of areas including the gas cooker, wok cooker, work surfaces, food containers and utensils. Dirty cardboard on the floor, extraction hood and grease filters were encrusted with grease and dirt. All fridges were in poor condition with rusty shelving and dirty and damaged seals. Pools of blood and raw meat juices were noted in one of the fridges. Large accumulations of dirt and old food debris were found behind freezers.

The [redacted] food worker [redacted] was not maintaining a high degree of personal cleanliness and was wearing a dirty, ripped apron. No hand washing occurred during the inspection despite raw meat being directly handled.

2 boxes of cooked chicken pieces were stored directly in raw chicken cardboard boxes.
Food stored in dirty, defective, chipped containers.
Container of raw sausages stored directly on cooked pork.
Food stored in non food grade bins or containers.
Raw meat not suitably wrapped in the freezer resulting in freezer burn.
Food waste, including two refuse sacks of waste and 5 dirty buckets of used oil were stored in a food room where trays of cooked meats were cooling.

The document is dated 14th February 2018. Happy Valentine's Day dear. Which cross-contaminant encouraging, dirty equipment using, pathogenic bacteria feasting, potential gastroenteritis haven, non-handwashing restaurant, shall we eat at today?

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freshpopcorn wrote:

All quickly reopened within days having corrected the food safety issues, with the exception of China Kitchen and Hennessy Garden Centre’s cafe which still remain shut.

Where is Hennessys garden centre ?

Freya Magnificent Raceway

Freya Magnificent Raceway wrote: »

Where is Hennessys garden centre ?

Is it on the Carlow side of Kilkenny?

freshpopcorn

Freya Magnificent Raceway wrote: »

Where is Hennessys garden centre ?

It's in Gorahan in Kilkenny!

Purple Mountain

Qreq wrote: »

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Looks like the China Kitchen Chinese ran into a little bother.

https://www.thesun.ie/news/2274368/six-irish-takeaways-and-food-businesses-forced-to-shut-after-being-issued-with-closure-orders-as-rodent-dropping-and-filth-cause-issues/

Thanks for the heads up. Since it's not their first closure (another commenter found they had been shut down in 2016), I took the opportunity to visit the Food Safety Authority's publicly accessible closure orders to see China Kitchen's failures this time. https://www.fsai.ie/uploadedFiles/Enforcement_and_Audit/Orders/CO-003-02-2018_R.pdf

Here are the failures for those who don't click links:

The premises had not been cleaned in a considerable time and this was evident from mould growth on surfaces adjacent to food storage and preparation, heavy build up of grease and food debris in a number of areas including the gas cooker, wok cooker, work surfaces, food containers and utensils. Dirty cardboard on the floor, extraction hood and grease filters were encrusted with grease and dirt. All fridges were in poor condition with rusty shelving and dirty and damaged seals. Pools of blood and raw meat juices were noted in one of the fridges. Large accumulations of dirt and old food debris were found behind freezers.

The [redacted] food worker [redacted] was not maintaining a high degree of personal cleanliness and was wearing a dirty, ripped apron. No hand washing occurred during the inspection despite raw meat being directly handled.

2 boxes of cooked chicken pieces were stored directly in raw chicken cardboard boxes.
Food stored in dirty, defective, chipped containers.
Container of raw sausages stored directly on cooked pork.
Food stored in non food grade bins or containers.
Raw meat not suitably wrapped in the freezer resulting in freezer burn.
Food waste, including two refuse sacks of waste and 5 dirty buckets of used oil were stored in a food room where trays of cooked meats were cooling.

The document is dated 14th February 2018. Happy Valentine's Day dear. Which cross-contaminant encouraging, dirty equipment using, pathogenic bacteria feasting, potential gastroenteritis haven, non-handwashing restaurant, shall we eat at today?

I actually feel queasy reading that!

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Deleted User wrote:

Is it on the Carlow side of Kilkenny?

Thanks

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freshpopcorn wrote:

It's in Gorahan in Kilkenny!

Thanks

touts

Qreq wrote: »

Thanks for the heads up. Since it's not their first closure (another commenter found they had been shut down in 2016), I took the opportunity to visit the Food Safety Authority's publicly accessible closure orders to see China Kitchen's failures this time. https://www.fsai.ie/uploadedFiles/Enforcement_and_Audit/Orders/CO-003-02-2018_R.pdf

Here are the failures for those who don't click links:
The document is dated 14th February 2018. Happy Valentine's Day dear. Which cross-contaminant encouraging, dirty equipment using, pathogenic bacteria feasting, potential gastroenteritis haven, non-handwashing restaurant, shall we eat at today?

And they were left reopen after that? That's not a careless mistake here and there. That sounds like the whole place is rotten to the core. Can people be banned from ever owning or working in a restaurant. If you operated a car that dangerously you'd get a ban for several years. I hope the Nationalist puts that report on their front page.

If theres enough sauce on food,you wouldnt know what you would be eating..And a fella might think twas the drink that had him in a sitting position all the next day.:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Qreq

Does anybody know for a fact where you can get white soda bread in town? The brown and a white/wholemeal hybrid version is easy to find. My parents have a hankering for it, but the shops and bakeries I tried don't do the plain white version.

pudzey101

Qreq wrote: »

Does anybody know for a fact where you can get white soda bread in town? The brown and a white/wholemeal hybrid version is easy to find. My parents have a hankering for it, but the shops and bakeries I tried don't do the plain white version.

prob best call into hickeys near the west gate

Qreq

pudzey101 wrote: »

prob best call into hickeys near the west gate

Tried Hickeys, O'Gorman's and the one across from it, M&S, and some other shops. Some of the workers said they've never had the white soda bread as long as they've worked there. Maybe it's an old-fashioned thing.

pudzey101

Qreq wrote: »

Tried Hickeys, O'Gorman's and the one across from it, M&S, and some other shops. Some of the workers said they've never had the white soda bread as long as they've worked there. Maybe it's an old-fashioned thing.

Il ask a neighbor later when i see her , shes a baker , though know she's goona say bake it yourself what about tescos , dunnes or supervalue ?

Expunge

What about that Deli place in Irishtown, near the Late Late Foodstore? They do a lot of freshly baked breads, etc.

callaway92

Expunge wrote: »

What about that Deli place in Irishtown, near the Late Late Foodstore? They do a lot of freshly baked breads, etc.

Aptly named Town House Deli

All in all

Qreq wrote: »

Tried Hickeys, O'Gorman's and the one across from it, M&S, and some other shops. Some of the workers said they've never had the white soda bread as long as they've worked there. Maybe it's an old-fashioned thing.

Have you tried Hewitts in Mitchel St.

Qreq

Qreq wrote: »

Does anybody know for a fact where you can get white soda bread in town? The brown and a white/wholemeal hybrid version is easy to find. My parents have a hankering for it, but the shops and bakeries I tried don't do the plain white version.

I appreciate the kind "Did you try X shop?" suggestions, however I'm more interested in if anyone knows for a fact where this holy grail is hidden. It would save me repeating the wild goose chase of yesterday.

xkariex

Supervalu does the white sofa bread, they do a white currents soda bread as well. They only do a small amount though. Grangemockler bakery could too

julyjane

Grangemockler definitely does them because my other half can't pass the place without going in for one. I'd be very surprised if Hewitts didn't do them but they are active enough on Facebook so you might find out there rather than wasting a journey.

Otherwise go to supervalu/dunnes/tesco and buy flour, bread soda and buttermilk

julyjane

julyjane wrote: »

Grangemockler definitely does them because my other half can't pass the place without going in for one. I'd be very surprised if Hewitts didn't do them but they are active enough on Facebook so you might find out there rather than wasting a journey.

Otherwise go to supervalu/dunnes/tesco and buy flour, bread soda and buttermilk

Owner of said bakery used work in Superquinn from what i recall.

Qreq

xkariex wrote: »

Supervalu does the white sofa bread, they do a white currents soda bread as well. They only do a small amount though. Grangemockler bakery could too

Thank you! I got the plain white version in Supervalu this morning. You've delighted my parents and saved me more wasted journeys. Much appreciated.

Xenophile

Qreq wrote: »

Thank you! I got the plain white version in Supervalu this morning. You've delighted my parents and saved me more wasted journeys. Much appreciated.

Hope you really enjoy it you went to a lot of trouble. Well done !

Jakey Rolling

Two page spread in the Nationalist on the extensive disruption caused by the kerosene spill in Mullinahone last week - however no outright statement of the source of the spill, barely a convoluted hint that the Coop may have been involved. "The Co-op was held with high respect locally and had given great employment to a lot of people". That makes it all right so?!

Bizarre given that those responsible had already made a public apology. Doesn't say much for their standards of investigative journalism!

by8auj6csd3ioq

Nationalist and investigative journalism should not be in the same sentence. they are great at writing about poor people and court cases. that is  it

cml387

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

Two page spread in the Nationalist on the extensive disruption caused by the kerosene spill in Mullinahone last week - however no outright statement of the source of the spill, barely a convoluted hint that the Coop may have been involved. "The Co-op was held with high respect locally and had given great employment to a lot of people". That makes it all right so?!

Bizarre given that those responsible had already made a public apology. Doesn't say much for their standards of investigative journalism!

I'd say the advertising department was looking over the journalist's shoulder.

dieselbug

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

Two page spread in the Nationalist on the extensive disruption caused by the kerosene spill in Mullinahone last week - however no outright statement of the source of the spill, barely a convoluted hint that the Coop may have been involved. "The Co-op was held with high respect locally and had given great employment to a lot of people". That makes it all right so?!

Bizarre given that those responsible had already made a public apology. Doesn't say much for their standards of investigative journalism!

I imagine there is an investigation in progress with regard to whatever lead to the spill so there may be restrictions on how you can report on it.
I don't understand how it happened myself as there are regulations about storage of oils, acids, chemicals etc. Bunds would be a standard precaution. I wonder was the leak from a mobile tanker, like a truck for example.
Just speculating mind.

On another subject, lots and lots of water falling at the moment, the kind that can lead to flooding.

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cml387 wrote: »

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

Two page spread in the Nationalist on the extensive disruption caused by the kerosene spill in Mullinahone last week - however no outright statement of the source of the spill, barely a convoluted hint that the Coop may have been involved. "The Co-op was held with high respect locally and had given great employment to a lot of people". That makes it all right so?!

Bizarre given that those responsible had already made a public apology. Doesn't say much for their standards of investigative journalism!

I'd say the advertising department was looking over the journalist's shoulder.

maybe one of their political masters

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dieselbug wrote:

I don't understand how it happened myself as there are regulations about storage of oils, acids, chemicals etc.

Rumour has it an attempt was made to steal the oil which led to the leak.

dieselbug

Freya Magnificent Raceway wrote: »

Rumour has it an attempt was made to steal the oil which led to the leak.

That would make sense but why not go public on it? Did their spokesman not say on RTE news that it was weather related?

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dieselbug wrote:

That would make sense but why not go public on it? Did their spokesman not say on RTE news that it was weather related?

I don't know I didn't follow the story at all.