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The N64 'Back to Basics' Tournament.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    It's an interesting one, two stealthy type characters going up against each other. Kess' argument about the Pred not seeing DD as a serious threat is the clincher for me though.

    DD FTW


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    5-2 to Daredevil (pending review)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Predator knows he is being bested by DareDevil so decides to activate his self destruct device, killing them both.

    Should this count as a vote for DD and the Predator? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Kess73 wrote: »
    Should this count as a vote for DD and the Predator? :D

    I'm going to say yes (as will be the case from now on in any such other instances in the tourney).

    In that case Daredevil wins 6-3.

    The next battle will be posted shortly...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Ghost Rider
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    Versus


    Eliphas the Inheritor
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    "Ghost Rider has been causing quite the stir since his return to the place known as hell. The Warmaster has sent one his most devious minions, Eliphas the Inheritor, back to a place he is all to familiar with to put an end to this insubordination. "


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    Eliphas is one powerful mofo. The gods blessings have put him on near god-level himself. Early judgement but I'm hard-pressed to see anyone beating him. Certainly not Ghostrider.

    As I see it Eliphas is a soulless, deranged killer. As I am aware this would mean that most of Ghostriders powers wouldn't be all that effective against him.

    Eliphas would be hard-pressed to kill Ghostrider but that's not his task. He just has to show him that he is unaffected by powers and that there is more powerful. There is also the fact the fight could be a very long one which would lots of bloodletters and no one messes with bloodletters.

    Eliphas FTW (But I am open to correction regarding Ghostriders powers)


    Considerations have been made and I will accept that perhaps I did not give Ghostrider all that he could be credited with.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 47,826 Mod ✭✭✭✭cyberwolf77


    Two mighty titans clash before the gates of Hell. As they collide all present are temporarily blinded. When they regain their sight all that remains is a smoldering crater in the ground. At the bottom of the crater is the crushed and mangled remains of Eliphas' armour.

    Ghost Rider wins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Has to be Ghostrider. At his most powerful he became the ultimate ruler of Hell, and got all the powers that came with it, including power over all that have dwelt there.


    Plus only one incarnation of GR was hampered when fighting beings with no souls, and that version has long since gained powers on a Galactus level when unleashed in full, and the most recent version of Ghost Rider is a new Vengence, so no matter what version we pick Eliphas is in trouble.

    And of course by having this battle in Hell, it is in one of two places that the full power of the Ghost Rider can be unleashed.


    Eliphas to be bitchslapped by skullhead.

    Ghost Rider ftw


  • Moderators Posts: 51,881 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Ghost Rider is on a whole other level of power compared to his opponent.

    Ghost Rider wins.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Kess has me convinced again, Ghost Rider FTW.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    Mmm.... Hell's finest....

    GR is the living exception to "two wrongs don't make a right". He's unashamedly high-tier, trading blows with the meanest SoBs in the metaverse. Quite often when a machiavellian ultra-villain seizes control of whole hordes of supers and uses them to inadvertently TAKE OVER TEH UNIVERSE and none of the supers make a concerted effort to clean their clock GR, able to sniff them out by instict, takes the field and has all the inhabitants of that universe, good and bad, flung at him by a terrified ultravillain in a futile attempt to stop him. And he curb-stomps them all. Single-handed.

    This really should have been a shoe-in for Eliphas but he's been drawn against an utter monster; even with his defenses he's gone from shoe-in to taking a shoe-ing :p

    Not that its going to be quick or easy, even for GR. GR's hellfire, while powerful, deals fire and vitality damage, and his Penance is purely Vitality-based. Eliphas is extremely resistant to all elements thanks to Tzeench and is totally immune to Vitality effects due to Slaanesh's Soulless perk. Hell, canonically trying to use Penance on a purely evil and/or soulless or deranged being can backfire and damage GR. But at his power level it no longer leaves him stunned and defenseless.

    Meanwhile, Eliphas' Storm Bolter is primarily physical with a bit of Vitality imbued in them thanks to the Chaos Projectiles perk. The former is pretty useless against a being that is almost entirely energy-based when narked, and can use his rage and durability to survive their soul-sapping effect. Plasma could scramble him, but sword? Meet chain :D GR has no intent on letting that sword get anywhere near him and his constantly regenerating, shape-shifting chain is going to seriously mess Eliphas up as well as block his sword strikes pretty nicely. After that its simply a matter of GR's tremendous short-range physical/fire offensive wearing the hugely durable but not-quite-invincible Eliphas down just a bit too quick for his regen to catch up. The hellfire will slowly degrade his armor to a point where the chain, used in spear mode, punches some gurt great big holes in Eliphas' head and torso, bad enough even to take down a Nurgle-enhanced Termie.

    Its gonna be slow, and its sure as hell gonna be messy, but Eliphas eventually falls to the incarnation of Vengeance. Just stay the hell outta the way of THAT battle 'cuz half of Hell is REALLY gonna burn bright tonight! :eek::D

    Ghost Rider FT (narrow) W :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    The winner, and still the undisputed king of hell....

    GHOSTRIDER!!!!!!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Black Cat
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    Versus

    Count Dracula
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    @Queens, New York

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    "After an unacceptable act of insubordination (involving Jonathan Harker) Count Dracula needs to replace one of his brides. However, not just any woman is suitable for one such as he. Dracula travels to a far away land in search of a woman of a noble lineage and a warrior's spirit. Black Cat is the object of the Count's wicked desires and she's gonna have to play REALLY hard to get if she wants to stay alive!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Dracula has this one. She may be possibly quicker, but Dracula has the power, hypnotic/telepathic/shapeshifting skills and the element of surprise. Drac FTW.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Going to use a very simple logic here. If Morbius can take Black Cat in a fight, then Dracula would destroy her.

    He would be too strong, too fast, too experienced, too ruthless, and with her not having any advance warning of his arrival, it would be over quickly regardless of whether we use one of the takes on Stoker's Dracula or Marvel's take on Dracula.


    The lovely Felicia Hardy in her tight, figure hugging costume gets served by Dracs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    As per previous votes Drac is way too much for Black Cat.

    He will suavely saunter down the street and put her under his spell without her ever knowing what's going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    3-0

    Dracula off to a flier


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 47,826 Mod ✭✭✭✭cyberwolf77


    Miuss hardy is down before she even knows what hit her.

    Dracula wins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭FewFew


    Damn I wub Black Cat so much, as far as comic book sexeh, she's comic book sexeh to the max! I think I'm basing this on the cartoon :)

    But yes, she can't hack Dracula. Few can. He's got the experience, the power and the stamina to make her his bride. And Daaaaaamn what a bride she'll be!

    What does one get when one is super human AND a vampire? Hmm hmm?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    Will she even offer up a fight? Y'see, Felicia really does have a thing about vamps, and not that embarrassment from Twilight either! ;):D:p

    Even assuming a fair fight, I don't see even the current iteration of Cat (original superpower tweaked and trained, but with the bonus of advanced ultralight powered armour built into her costume that mimics her secondary set of superpowers - super-speed, super-strength, super-balance and deployable claws - from when she had her hex-field swapped with them) being a match for Drac. She struck me as an interesting mid-tier contender who seems doomed to an early death courtesy of a drastically higher-tier opponent :o

    I'm finding it hard to draft up a battle strategy because Cat's up against a type of opponent and offensive strategy (most likely a mindhack in this instance) that really is her specific Achilles' Heel. And she seems to have a thing about them too, which further lowers her psionic resistance. And her own psionic powers are unreliable, often need to stack up over time and are better used against aggressive, hands-on types rather than quick, defensive indirect-attack foes.

    Dracula uses Neural Override
    Its super effective!
    Black Cat swoons with desire! :pac:

    Dracula FTW :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Dracula cruises to an easy 6-0 win

    the next battle will be posted shortly...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Venom
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    Versus

    Noob Saibot
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    On Board A Space Shuttle!
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    "The mysterious ninja Noob Saibot has been tasked with detroying a rare and extremely valuable substance known as Promethium-X from the incoming space shuttle, which is preparing to engage in planet-fall. Teleported on board via mystical means Noob finds that the shuttle's crew is dead and the sample has been contaminated... and has taken on the form of Venom. Plan B: Kill Venom and escape the shuttle before it crashes."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    If I read correctly, this Noob guy can teleport, become invisible and steal another's power? Noob wins.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 47,826 Mod ✭✭✭✭cyberwolf77


    Noob takes Venom with ease.......
    That is until he realizes that he has become the new host for the symbiote, and his new partner in life is hungry.
    Venom claims victory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    1 each.

    The plot thickens...


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,871 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Saibot's powerful, but at the end of the day, he's just Sub Zero 1.

    Venom uppercuts him with his strength far in advance of Saibots and slurs "Toasty".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Venom takes the initiative.

    2-1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭FewFew


    Saibot has plenty of skill and an impressive collection of powers, but he's not up against some martial artist here who'll try to out skill him, he's up against Venom AND in a confined space.

    Noob won't have the time to figure out Venom's weakness to sonics and Venom has no powers to steal. Even if Noob conjures up a clone, he won't have the power to stop Venom.

    If Venom doesn't kill him in their first encounter, Noob may dodge about a bit, but realistically he's got nowhere to go and venom just needs to get close to kill or consume him

    No dice Tobias Boon.

    Venom wins.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    Oh dear... Subbie, before or after his Noob days, could have taken Venom with his cryomancy, as heavy-gauge elemental attacks are one of the few ways to take out a Symbiote and Sub has that in spades. But Symbiotes are also hugely resistant to low-end elemental attacks, physical effects and are immune to Vitality damage. And Noob is all about Physical and Vitality damage. D'oh.

    Noob will put up a spirited defense, wailing at Venom with high-speed kung-fu and a storm of shurikens after realising that his ranged Vitality-based attacks don't do a thing to a Symbiote, but Venom's incredible durability and regen will see him through, and while slightly less agile his superhuman strength ensures that even Noob will go down after a few well-placed and devastatingly strong hits. If Noob lived long enough he could make one last desperate gambit to try and trick Venom into an airlock and give him a taste of atmospheric re-entry but somehow I don't think that Sautéed Symbiote is on the menu tonight, folks :p

    Venom FTW


  • Moderators Posts: 51,881 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Noob holds his own against Venom. Venom sensing defeat attempts to bond with Noob.
    but Noob had created a shadow double to lure the symbiote away from its host.

    He dissolves the double into a shadow trap to contain the symbiote. Seals it into a container and abandons ship, leaving the container to be destroyed with the ship.

    Noob wins.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Hmmm interesting pic of a space shuttle, looks a lot like a certain triple changer.;)


    As for the fight, I cannot see beyond a venom win.


    As Solitaire has pointed out, Noob has nothing that can stop Venom. The only thing he has over Venom is speed, and even that is debatable as Venom is only slightly slower and slightly less agile than Spider man.


    The only thing that I see as being a big factor in how long the fight lasts is which version of Venom this is, or rather which host.

    Of the three main hosts, Brock, Gargan, and Flash Thompson, I see the first two ending the fight quick, and the latter taking a bit longer.

    Venom for the win


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    5-2 to Venom


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    Noobs abilities will help him to stay alive but I can't see him being to do much more then infuriate Venom. They'll duke it for a while but Venom will eventually rip Noobs head off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Venom wins 6-2

    the next battle will be posted shortly...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Vampire Hunter 'D'
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    Versus

    John Constantine
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    @ Post-Apocalyptic Wasteland
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    "John Constantine finds himself inexorably drawn to all things weird and supernatural. 'D' fits the bill. Constantine interprets 'D' as a vampire of sorts and a threat whom must be destroyed, while 'D' feels similarly about an irresponsible sorcerer. they will have to fight it out!"


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,871 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Sometimestine is waaaaay too wily for D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    I was leaning towards D, mainly because of Left Hand to be honest, then I started thinking about how Constantine wins most of his fights, and of how cunning/sly he is, and I was leaning towards Constantine.


    Then one glaringly obvious thing hit me. When Constantine is in a fight against someone who is a highly skilled fighter he generally loses quite badly, and how does D prefer to fight? He tends to prefer to use his his superior physical skills over his magical powers.


    So we get a guy with superhuman reflexes, strength, speed and all round fighting skills, against a guy who tends to lose when up aging people with good fighting skills.


    Much as I hate to say it, but the character I really like in this pairing is onto a bad thing here, and D should win this handily enough.

    D ftw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    2-1 to D


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 47,826 Mod ✭✭✭✭cyberwolf77


    This is an interesting fight. However if Constantine is not the agressor in this scenario i see no way for him to emerge victorious. D is going to continue on his way, victorious once more.

    Constantine is waiting in the middle of the road as D approaches. As d comes up to him Constantine calmly lights a cigarette while looking him up and down.
    "You, my friend has pissed off way too many folks. Good-bye."
    With that the ground on the side of the road erupts revealing a dozen heavily
    armed vampires who fall on D with a savage ferocity. When the dust settles a dhampir is dead and Constantine is continuing on his way forgetting to tell his erstwhile allies about the rather large incendiary device he planted in the road bed before their arrival for the ambush.
    "Well, there's thirteen less blights on the face iof the planet now. Sh*t, I'm out of ciggies."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Correction: 2-1 to Constantine


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    Constantine is waiting in the middle of the road as D approaches. As D comes up to him Constantine calmly lights a cigarette while looking him up and down.
    "You, my friend has pissed off way too many folks. Good-bye."
    With that the ground on the side of the road erupts revealing a dozen heavily
    armed vampires who fall on D with a savage ferocity. A massive blast rocks the earth; coughing and spluttering Constantine reels off a powerful list of curses at the halfwit abomination that managed to prematurely detonate his carefully-concealed trump card.
    "Well, there's thirteen less blights on the face of the planet now. Sh*t, I'm out of ciggies."

    Sadly, the charred remains are one short of a baker's dozen. D had sensed the trap as he approached, and the desperate edge to the quips spouting from his left hand told him that it was going to be a bad one. Realising that his opponent must have brought ample firepower to ensure that a double-cross never gets to become a possibility, D has a hushed conversation with his Left Hand while approaching, guessing at some kind of high-yield IED and pinpointing it with his effector amulet. After that survival was just a matter of timing. When the trap was sprung, D waited a split-second to let the opposition close in then hurled himself backward with all his might, praying that the debris he landed near was dense enough to stop any shrapnel as his amulet's tiny effector "convinced" the bomb that detonation was truly in its best interests.

    Once he realises the last few spikes of shrapnel to strike his shield ward had nothing to do with the blast, Constantine curses luridly and triggers his last-ditch defense ward - a sigil linked to some rather curious clay punctuating the rock strata. A Golem bursts forth - costly and unpredictable, but then again Constantine didn't think it would need to be employed.

    But its far too late. Left Hand already suggested it was now time to ignore diversions and go straight to the heart of the matter, and watching his needles bounce off a ward D decides to finish things up close. Constantine's corpse hits the ground long before the golem can even try to intercept the flying demivampiric blur streaking past it.

    D FTW


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    2 each


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    i'm gonna give this one to constantine. His past experiencess and abilities to get out of amazinly impossible situations, coupled with his power and immence intelligence will just pip him over D! good bout but the smokin badass takes it!

    John Constantine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭FewFew


    I think D has this.

    As said above, Constantine rarely wins a physical fight and that's exactly what D will give him.

    D has faced more powerful wizards than Constantine in the past and triumphed, I really don't think Constantine can come up with anything that'll fool Left Hand or overcome D's physical ability.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    3-3

    Getting exciting


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  • Moderators Posts: 51,881 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Constantine hits D with a vial of his blood, which due to D's vampire lineage, leaves him in a weakened state. Constantine then finishes him off at his leisure.

    Constantine wins.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    Unfortunately I don't know D and haven't had a chance to really look into his character but from reading the wiki I reckon he would destroy. It seems almost like he is designed to beat Constantine, with his cold demeanor and Left Hand reading Constantine.

    DFTW


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    4 - 4 draw.

    PMing a random contributor for a casting vote


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    The deciding vote has been cast. Constantine wins!

    The next battle will be posted shortly...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Ginger Fitzgerald
    AND
    Brigitte 'B' Fitzgerald
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    Versus

    Alice
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    @The Creepy Woods:
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    "Alice has tracked down two creatures, part human, part monster to a remote piece of woodland. As the full moon dangles in the sky Alice prepares to take care of what she perceives to be the sinister Umbrella Corporation's latest experiment."


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