Rugby 2011 Video Games

UnknownSpecies

Hagz wrote: »

Any chance you could share a link to these videos with us/me??

Yeah no problem, here's one, the other is on the same channel!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeVTrITRhcU

Crash

I felt like I'd gone back in time to 2006/2008 when I picked up the demo there. Bizzarro, they've actually managed to go backwards from 2008 as well, as Stev_O mentioned the passing is significantly less fluid.

The fact that I could pick this up and instantly remember how to play the game is a bit shocking, no new features, nothing.

I'll be getting RC rather than this, unless it turns up in a bargain bin. RC might end up being a bag of ****e, but at least it'll be a different bag. I've already played this one already :P

Stev_o

Loving the sound of the Team Tactics Attributes!

"At the team level, things get even more interesting. A team’s performance is not only based on the sum of its players, but also on team attributes and tactics. Team attributes measure the side’s overall cohesion on attack, defense, set-plays, et cetera. The tactic’s screen allows you to adjust the style of play, moving sliders to set the balance between passing and driving up the middle, offloading or taking the hit"

Also

Perhaps more importantly, you will be free to create your own custom competitions, which can incorporate league and knockout matches, pool play — even strange tiered structures like you’d see at the Rugby League World Cup.

If that's true then RC has won hands down.

Taken from the NZ Gamer preview. http://nzgamer.com/ps3/previews/953/all-blacks-rugby-challenge-hands-on.html

twinytwo

Crash wrote: »

I felt like I'd gone back in time to 2006/2008 when I picked up the demo there. Bizzarro, they've actually managed to go backwards from 2008 as well, as Stev_O mentioned the passing is significantly less fluid.

The fact that I could pick this up and instantly remember how to play the game is a bit shocking, no new features, nothing.

I'll be getting RC rather than this, unless it turns up in a bargain bin. RC might end up being a bag of ****e, but at least it'll be a different bag. I've already played this one already :P

Tbh i cried when i played the demo, i cried... thats how bad it was.:mad:

molloyjh

Stev_o wrote: »

Taken from the NZ Gamer preview. http://nzgamer.com/ps3/previews/953/all-blacks-rugby-challenge-hands-on.html

Read that earlier too. The more I hear about it the better it sounds. They have more international licenses yet to announce (fingers crossed there, but with all Irish players in licensed clubs/provinces it shouldn't matter too much). Apparently they've a big announcement coming on Monday and there's some speculation that it might finally be a release date.

pappyodaniel

I've ordered both games, can't believe I spent €45 on a sub par game like RWC but at least it will keep me going until Rugby Challenge arrives and then the ACTUAL World Cup.

tolosenc

pappyodaniel wrote: »

I've ordered both games, can't believe I spent €45 on a sub par game like RWC but at least it will keep me going until Rugby Challenge arrives and then the ACTUAL World Cup.

Ditto.

antlyn

Where have you ordered Rugby Challenge from? I couldn't find it available to order anywhere. Thanks

budhabob

molloyjh wrote: »

Apparently they've a big announcement coming on Monday and there's some speculation that it might finally be a release date.

Any Update on this??

Tomtom364

antlyn wrote: »

Where have you ordered Rugby Challenge from? I couldn't find it available to order anywhere. Thanks

Gamestop and play have it up on their sites for preorder.

As for the "big announcment".
That was just some people got in it into their heads that there would be an announcment today. and it was completly untrue.

kensutz

After seeing this video I can't wait for the release of RC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se1aSyfln0E

tolosenc

Finally got around to playing the demo for RWC 2011. It's fun, but it just had me wondering, how could it possibly take that long to make the game if you're just carbon copying Rugby 08?

molloyjh

budhabob wrote: »

Any Update on this??

Nothing. Didn't see an update at all after that! Unless it was the team stats and tactics thing???

Individual team identities were an important inclusion for us, with team tendencies, styles, and specialities lending real personality to each side. Teams are therefore defined not only with stats that determine their strengths and weaknesses but also with tactics that define the style of play, reflecting a combination of training, coaching, and match strategy. This means playing different teams is a different experience, beyond competing on the differences of stats alone and requiring an adjustment of tactics and play.


Teams Attributes
Attack – 0 to 100 Scale
Defence – 0 to 100 Scale
Rucking – 0 to 100 Scale
Mauling – 0 to 100 Scale
Scrummaging – 0 to 100 Scale
Lineouts – 0 to 100 Scale


Adjustable Team Tactics
There are 9 running tactics sliders for each field area i.e. Defensive Zone, Mid Zone and Attack Zone and 6 kicking tactics sliders for a total of 33 sliders. Each slider effects how the team plays in a match. These sliders are:

Forwards - Pass or Drive
Forwards – Take Contact or Offload
Backs - Pass or Drive
Backs – Take Contact or Offload
Lineout Receiver Preference – Front, Middle or Back
Ruck Win outcome – Pass or Pick and Go
Lineout Win Outcome – Pass or Take Contact
Scrum Win Outcome – Pass or Pick and Go
Maul Win Outcome - Pass or Pick and Go

Kick Off – Short or Long
Kick Off – Left or Right
Drop out – Short or Long
Drop Out – Left or Right
Kick off – Touch or Territory
Penalty Kicks – Touch or Goal

Adjusting these will adjust how often they perform each often in a given situation, increasing or decreasing the chance of the choice of the specific situational action in question.


All stats and tactics can be set for any custom team, and the same is editable for all teams that ship with the game.

nathan99

I have been following both rugby games for a while, In my opinion RWC 11 isint crap like some people say but it is only bad compared to rugby challenge ( which looks really good )
After playing the demo i think rwc 11 is fun and i cant wait to play online against friends on it.

Cpt_Blackbeard

nathan99 wrote: »

I have been following both rugby games for a while, In my opinion RWC 11 isint crap like some people say but it is only bad compared to rugby challenge ( which looks really good )
After playing the demo i think rwc 11 is fun and i cant wait to play online against friends on it.

Its definitely fun, but its the exact same game as Rugby 2008. No matter what level you play it on, the faster your team, the better it'll be.

They didn't fix any of the bugs in the game either. You are almost 100% guaranteed to win the opposition lineout if you make your front jumper go up the second the opposition hooker twitches, for example.

There is no point in me buying it when, in Rugby 08, I have a near identicle game.

molloyjh

Cpt_Blackbeard wrote: »

Its definitely fun, but its the exact same game as Rugby 2008. No matter what level you play it on, the faster your team, the better it'll be.

They didn't fix any of the bugs in the game either. You are almost 100% guaranteed to win the opposition lineout if you make your front jumper go up the second the opposition hooker twitches, for example.

There is no point in me buying it when, in Rugby 08, I have a near identicle game.

Actually I reckon Rugby 08 is better. More teams, more competitions. The only things lacking are slightly better graphics and better commentary. The mods for the PC version with the latest teams and kits put it ahead of RWC for me.

JonnyF

played the demo last night, it's fun and will be fun in 2 player i'd say but i'm still disappointed with it. for all the hype and bs over on therugbyforum it's the exact same game as 08 with less teams, plus for some reason they 've made Nick Easter some sort of monster who can break three tackles and run the length of the pitch but Ashton can't step around a 2nd rower.

crisco10

Has the release date of Rugby Challenge in Ireland been confirmed?

Rugby 08..sorry I mean RWC looks like a waste of money. Only 1 way to win a game, and limited competitions. I hate comparing to a flawed, 15 year old game but thats what Lomu had going for it. You could win a world cup with england/NZ/SA etc playing sexy rugby but you could also play with Ivory Coast and grind you way to the world cup trophy. Not to mention THAT classic match with Japan v New Zealand. So much longevity in that game. You could play kicking rugby, run-it-from-everywhere rugby, one out etc.

thomond2006

Lads from what you've said there's no point buying RWC11 if you have Rugby 08, which I have already.

If you have the PC version of 08, you can get great mods on TheRugbyForum. I got the mod for last season's ML, it was brilliant. They will definitely have one for the upcoming world cup.

molloyjh

thomond2006 wrote: »

Lads from what you've said there's no point buying RWC11 if you have Rugby 08, which I have already.

If you have the PC version of 08, you can get great mods on TheRugbyForum. I got the mod for last season's ML, it was brilliant. They will definitely have one for the upcoming world cup.

Yeah the mods from TRF are class and give you so much more than RWC11 would appear to have. I can't see a huge market for the RWC11 given the slating it's been getting. Here's hoping that the market for RC is good enough to convince developers to put more time and effort into the rugby games.

Tomtom364

molloyjh wrote: »

Yeah the mods from TRF are class and give you so much more than RWC11 would appear to have. I can't see a huge market for the RWC11 given the slating it's been getting. Here's hoping that the market for RC is good enough to convince developers to put more time and effort into the rugby games.

I think Mario (RC guy to those who dont know) has stated that 500,000sales is the figure required to look into making a sequal

Gelio

Tomtom364 wrote: »

I think Mario (RC guy to those who dont know) has stated that 500,000sales is the figure required to look into making a sequal

I'll be one of those anyway!

mdu

Ive been playing the RWC demo for a few days now and its still a disapointment every game. Just seems to be a lazy development... as someone was saying earlier..you are looking at the players necks a lot. poor effort.

pappyodaniel

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6328473/rugby-challenge-qanda-with-sidhe
God damn it I cant wait to play this.

irishbucsfan

I really hope RC is good (I don't have a games console and will be getting one specifically, so it be!).

What I really hope though, is that it sells enough to justify a 2012 edition, and that in that edition we will see the home of (good) Irish rugby, the RDS!

It seems that the squads will be as of the end of the 2011 season. Will we all have to individually edit these if we want to? Or will there be some way to share the rosters...?

Hagz

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I really hope RC is good (I don't have a games console and will be getting one specifically, so it be!).

What I really hope though, is that it sells enough to justify a 2012 edition, and that in that edition we will see the home of (good) Irish rugby, the RDS!

It seems that the squads will be as of the end of the 2011 season. Will we all have to individually edit these if we want to? Or will there be some way to share the rosters...?

Unfortunatly Sidhe have said that they will not be making a 2012 one, they will be in 2013 though.

And again, unfortunatly you cannot share rosters on the consoles, you can on pc though.

molloyjh

Hagz wrote: »

Unfortunately Sidhe have said that they will not be making a 2012 one, they will be in 2013 though.

And again, unfortunatly you cannot share rosters on the consoles, you can on pc though.

They've also announced now that their release date will be before Sept 30th rather than before the World Cup. They also confirmed that the game is designed to allow modding. So we could see some great updates to jerseys, squads etc over time just like Rugby08, but only on PC.

Superbus

From the RC Facebook page:

Dear Rugby Challenge Fans,

We know there is some frustration and speculation on the release date for this title. We have invested an enormous amount of funds and effort in this title, and if we could have released it yesterday, we would have.

There are two general paths that can be taken when creating video games:

1) The release date and budget are set, and you work within these parameters to complete the game. The advantage is that everyone knows the release date. The drawback is that over a two year period it is easy to miscalculate your budget and time. This leads to a game that will likely fall short in features and quality; or
2) There is an estimation made for the release date/budget, and work on the project commences. The drawback is there is no set release date however, this option allows you to continue working on the game until you are satisfied that the product is of the highest standard.

Tru Blu Entertainment Pty. Ltd. have chosen the latter path and make no apology for the choice, as we believe this is the only way to produce a quality game.

Our initial intention was to create a great game featuring the great Jonah Lomu and release upon completion. There was no plan made to release prior to or during the World Cup. We later found out that we had a competitor and the race was on to release before them. We must apologise to our fans as we will not make this deadline, but we can assure you that the wait will not be much longer.

We are still on track to release before the end of Quarter 3, which is no later than the 30th of September.

Please be patient. Soon you will have the pleasure of playing the best rugby game ever.


Yours Truly,
Sebastian Giompaolo
MD, Tru Blu Entertainment Pty. Ltd

Stev_o

Hagz wrote: »

Unfortunatly Sidhe have said that they will not be making a 2012 one, they will be in 2013 though.

And again, unfortunatly you cannot share rosters on the consoles, you can on pc though.

No you can share rosters on PS3, and possibly using 3rd party software for the 360.

Tomtom364

molloyjh wrote: »

They've also announced now that their release date will be before Sept 30th rather than before the World Cup. They also confirmed that the game is designed to allow modding. So we could see some great updates to jerseys, squads etc over time just like Rugby08, but only on PC.

They only said they wont be able to get the game out before the HB game.
They might yet get it out before the actual World Cup. will be interesting to see what mario says about it in the next day or too.

DerTierarzt

Initial impressions of the RWC 2011 Official Game demo are fairly dismal. Really disappointed, yet finding it funny how their willingness to release a demo has actually resulted in a plague of negative publicity and momentum! Regardless, competition here to win a copy.

In other news, it looks like Jonah Lomu Rugby Challenge will be cheapest in Ireland at Gamestop, coming in at €44.97.

DerTierarzt

For anyone that's interested Jonah Lomu Rugby Challenge have released the console covers.

Otacon

I'm still getting Rugby Challenge, but that cover looks cack!

molloyjh

Does it matter what the cover looks like?

JustinDee

People attending the Irish Rugby Supporters Club gig in the corporate level (only) at tomorrow's game will be able to try out the new official RWC game as there are a couple of consoles set up in that suite.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/19082011293.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/19082011292.jpg/

Damien13

are we gettin a demo for rugby challenge??

ktulu123

Nope, they confirmed earlier in the month!

Gelio

JustinDee wrote: »

People attending the Irish Rugby Supporters Club gig in the corporate level (only) at tomorrow's game will be able to try out the new official RWC game as there are a couple of consoles set up in that suite.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/19082011293.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/19082011292.jpg/

Even in that second picture, look how cramped up and unorganised the two teams are . .

Stev_o

Some clips from the RC hands on in New Zealand

PTH2009

The more I think about it rugby challenge will have a much better player roster than rwc does. If its possoble to transfer club players to international teams in rugby challenge than it will be great.

molloyjh

PTH2009 wrote: »

The more I think about it rugby challenge will have a much better player roster than rwc does. If its possoble to transfer club players to international teams in rugby challenge than it will be great.

AFAIK you can do that in RC. And even if you can't the player creation tool looks like it's detailed enough that you can add anyone you want easily and accurately. Seriously I think the player creation tool is going to be amazing all on it's own, but then that's probably just me.

Tomtom364

PTH2009 wrote: »

The more I think about it rugby challenge will have a much better player roster than rwc does. If its possoble to transfer club players to international teams in rugby challenge than it will be great.

You can draft licenced players from the clubs into the national teams.
100% certain of it.
Can even change players nationallity and make lomu an irish winger for the world championship (world cup unofficial comp) if you want.

It is unclear if the teams will revert to default for online or not. But all teams stats are evened out online(aka All Blacks vs Georgia will be an even game on the stats and jut down to player skill) so they might allowed customised teamsheets

Pudsy33

i think the team skill only levels out when custom teams are used, would be kinda silly to change the real teams.

Tomtom364

Pudsy33 wrote: »

i think the team skill only levels out when custom teams are used, would be kinda silly to change the real teams.

Well i think they are trying to prevent just everyone using the All blacks.
They mightnt make them completly even, but they are adjusting the stats for online.

padser

Difficult to put into words how disappointed I was with the demo for rwc 11 - on top of all the existing bugs (eg stealing opposition line out etc) they added a few new ones. Pass from ruck, fend off gets you through the defence line about 95% of the time and at least 40 - 50 yards up the pitch. I scored 5 tries in a game doing nothing but that.

The single improvement I can see is that from re starts you can no longer almost gaurantee an opposition line out on their on their 22 by switchin sides and placin kick behind covering winger

mystic86

Tomtom364 wrote: »

But all teams stats are evened out online(aka All Blacks vs Georgia will be an even game on the stats and jut down to player skill) so they might allowed customised teamsheets

you're talking absolute rubbish

Tomtom364

mystic86 wrote: »

you're talking absolute rubbish

Mystic, you dont like me.
Get over it and move on.

It has been said somewhere that the teams are leveled out for online play

PTH2009

Will buy RWC on Friday next just as a warm up to RC.

One thing that pisses me off is that the Six Nations is not in RWC even though all teams are fully licesned. have to get over it though lol

tolosenc

Tomtom364 wrote: »

Mystic, you dont like me.
Get over it and move on.

It has been said somewhere that the teams are leveled out for online play

It makes no sense though. Just because you're playing against a mate, suddenly Lelochadze and Rugbishvili are as good as Carter or O'Brien?

ktulu123

PTH2009 wrote: »

Will buy RWC on Friday next just as a warm up to RC.

One thing that pisses me off is that the Six Nations is not in RWC even though all teams are fully licesned. have to get over it though lol

I recon we might see the 6 Nations as DLC later in the year when its actually on!