Dry Spell

G86

Phat Cat wrote: »

Yeah, but you're a women, so it's totally expected, but women asking out guys seems to be a major no-go. Btw have you ever asked a guy out in a random situation? My point is that most women in other countries do as much chasing as men, but that rarely happens in Ireland for some reason.

I have!

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=60892204

parker kent

krudler wrote: »

talk to a woman in an everyday situation? thats just mental, there must be drinks consumed and loud music playing. Its funny how this is such an Irish thing, I've had people flirt with me standing in a supermarket line in the States, that would never happen here.

In fairness, I had a girl in UCD ask me out in the queue for the student desk. And I'm not exactly Brad Pitt's twin brother. Flirting can and does happen in other places in Ireland. It'll never happen though if you never try it.

stupidusername

parker kent wrote: »

In fairness, I had a girl in UCD ask me out in the queue for the student desk. And I'm not exactly Brad Pitt's twin brother. Flirting can and does happen in other places in Ireland. It'll never happen though if you never try it.

really? that's great! wish things like that happened me! or I had the balls to do it myself

parker kent

stupidusername wrote: »

really? that's great! wish things like that happened me! or I had the balls to do it myself

Well it happened in 2009, so it is not exactly breaking news! There was a fairly long queue for the desk and we ended up starting small talk about the length of the queue, then what courses we were doing, living on campus etc. Then she said "you wanna go for a drink in the SU bar later?".

So all you need is means and motive for flirting to happen.

stupidusername

parker kent wrote: »

Well it happened in 2009, so it is not exactly breaking news! There was a fairly long queue for the desk and we ended up starting small talk about the length of the queue, then what courses we were doing, living on campus etc. Then she said "you wanna go for a drink in the SU bar later?".

So all you need is means and motive for flirting to happen.

Did you go with her?

honestly I wouldn't even know what to say.

Ksusha26

Phat Cat wrote: »

You're bang on there, it does only seem to happen in Ireland, which I find really, really odd. For example I successfully chatted up a woman in the line for cinema tickets in London and I had a beautiful girl give me her phone number while she was servring me in a clothes shop in Covent Garden. I even had a girl who lived upstairs from my flat ask me out for coffee one morning when I was collecting my mail. That would be considered normal enough in most countries but for some reason it's a huge no-go over here

I felt like a porn star when I lived in England but for some reason was living like a monk in Ireland before that, it's truly bizarre.

I think it'd safe to say, Ireland = Dry Spell Central :pac:

I have had my male single friends say the same thing to me. I find Ireland a very funny place when it comes to sex and nudity for that matter. There is still such huge hang ups about it and what is acceptable in other countries, flirting in public and asking for numbers in bus stops etc. seems to be faux pas here. Women here hold all the cards and they can decide where, when, from and whom they get sex from.

As a women here, I have never had a problem finding or getting sex when I wanted it. I have even done without it at my own choice. But when I want it, I get it but I have turned down guys (I dont mean to boast ). For example last July I was sitting in a pub one Sunday afternoon by myself. I wasn't done up our anything, just had my hair tied back and wearing my summer blouse with runners. I was in the corner reading my book and an hour after a man in his early 40s struck up a conversation with me. We got on like a house on fire, anyway to cut a long story short(and a couple of drinks later), i went back to his apartment which was a 10 minute walk and had sex. After sex, I snuggled into him and I thought to myself, wow I wasn't expecting that, but it was nice. Around 11pm, I got up, (needed to catch the last bus) put my clothes back on, kissed him goodbye and never saw him again.

Now I'm engaged to be married and I met my fiance through work. he came up to me, we flirted and I gave him my number. The rest is history. In saying that, I have alot of pity for Irish guys. They are so sweet in a realy shy way and it is hard for them espcially when Irish girls are aloof. Guys, I want to say you are the best in the world and I am rooting for ye.

parker kent

stupidusername wrote: »

Did you go with her?

honestly I wouldn't even know what to say.

Yeah sure I had nothing to lose. Since we'd been talking for a bit and the college year was only starting, seemed like a good thing to do.

beks101

Phat Cat wrote: »

You're bang on there, it does only seem to happen in Ireland, which I find really, really odd. For example I successfully chatted up a woman in the line for cinema tickets in London and I had a beautiful girl give me her phone number while she was servring me in a clothes shop in Covent Garden. I even had a girl who lived upstairs from my flat ask me out for coffee one morning when I was collecting my mail. That would be considered normal enough in most countries but for some reason it's a huge no-go over here

Irish women not being as forward as their European/American/Canadian/
Australian etc counterparts doesn't excuse guys from making any effort, this isn't a tit-for-tat game. The Irish dating scene is retarded enough as it is with the lack of a culture of approach and low confidence among people in general and this argument just furthers the resentment between the sexes that seems to add to the problem. I know it takes a bit of encouragement to summon up the balls, but how can it possibly ever change if everyone constantly shies away and blames the opposite sex?

From a woman's perspective, I've seen a fair few women being labelled by the 'psycho' or 'desperate' tag when they initiate contact, or express interest in a not-so-subtle way, just as I've seen the guys who were 'creeps' or 'freaks' for making an approach, so the judgements work both ways, and add to that the fact that some guys love the chase, they want to be the ones that instigate things and a woman assuming this role makes them uncomfortable or detracts from their interest. Believe me, I've met them.

Either way, I think the problem is slow evolution and force of habit more than anything else. We haven't evolved to a point where supermarket pick-ups or coffee shop number exchanges are normal methods of meeting people, so we over-think that whole process and invariably end up hating each other. Bearing in mind as well in Ireland any individual potentially has a lot more to lose, with three degrees of separation and village gossip being a legitimate concern. I can safely say I'll never see that guy that I slept with a few weekends ago again, he's from a small town in northern Ontario and Canada is a big place. Whereas I've never had that same freedom in Ireland, so that can definitely add to the inhibitions and caginess.

Phat Cat

G86 wrote: »

I have!

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=60892204

In fairness G86, it took you the guts of a week to work up the courage to ask some guys housemate to forward him a piece of paper with your number on it. I'm not taking anything away from you here because what you did was still brave and your attitude is very refreshing, but most guys would have bitten the bullet in that situation right away and taken whatever reaction in their stride.

beks101 wrote:

Irish women not being as forward as their European/American/Canadian/Australian etc counterparts doesn't excuse guys from making any effort, this isn't a tit-for-tat game.

You've lost me here. Nobody said it was a game, it's a far too serious situation for alot of people to be labelled as a game IMO, plus who said that Irish guys don't make an effort to chat up Irish women (or women in general)? I said that some guys now think twice before approaching women because they have been embarrassed or humiliated in the past and are hesitant at getting burnt again. It's understandable if you ask me and it leaves the onus squarely at the feet of women, who will more then likely do nothing at all and revert back into their old ways of sitting back waiting to be approached. It's a vicious circle.

ksusha26 wrote:

In saying that, I have alot of pity for Irish guys. They are so sweet in a realy shy way and it is hard for them espcially when Irish girls are aloof. Guys, I want to say you are the best in the world and I am rooting for ye.

It's nice to hear a female response that isn't straight on the defensive for once, I agree with the vast majority of your post and I'd like to remind all of the female posters that this thread is about dry spells.........yet the vast majority of female posters have admitted to having sex recently and those that haven't say they could have it anytime they wanted anyway. You obviously haven't a clue what it's like to be a guy in a dry spell so although your posts are welcome and interesting for the most part, please know your audience and try not too rub it in

parker kent

Phat Cat wrote: »

You've lost me here. Nobody said it was a game, it's a far too serious situation for alot of people to be labelled as a game IMO, plus who said that Irish guys don't make an effort to chat up Irish women (or women in general)? I said that some guys now think twice before approaching women because they have been embarrassed or humiliated in the past and are hesitant at getting burnt again. It's understandable if you ask me and it leaves the onus squarely at the feet of women, who will more then likely do nothing at all and revert back into their old ways of sitting back waiting to be approached. It's a vicious circle.

Her point was pretty simple, it is not that hard to follow. She's just saying the "well women don't approach anyone" line shouldn't be used as an excuse. Yes it is an issue, but we should avoid turning it into, as she described, a tit for tat game. That is not saying people are turning it into a literal game, it is just a turn of phrase.

The issue of fewer degrees of separation is a good point. Everybody grows up in Ireland where stories get back to people that know them. I imagine everybody has had the "I heard what you were up to" type line said back at them at some stage. So that does bring a certain caution with it.

That being said, people should try and break the ice more often. Get used to breaking open conversation with strangers whenever possible. Not in a manic manner, just whenever the opportunity arises. There are moments when chatting to strangers in Ireland is possible, it just takes a knack to realise those moments.

TaraFoxglove

Phat Cat wrote: »

You obviously haven't a clue what it's like to be a guy in a dry spell so although your posts are welcome and interesting for the most part, please know your audience and try not too rub it in

Heh, fair enough.

Phat Cat

parker kent wrote: »

Her point was pretty simple, it is not that hard to follow. She's just saying the "well women don't approach anyone" line shouldn't be used as an excuse. Yes it is an issue, but we should avoid turning it into, as she described, a tit for tat game. That is not saying people are turning it into a literal game, it is just a turn of phrase.

Her point was simple and I got it straight away, but she quoted me and insinuated that I implied that guys don't approach girls because girls don't approach guys, like it was a silly school yard game, but I never said that, I simple stated that some guys don't bother approaching women because they feel like it's way too much hassle with very little reward in the end.

beano345

Women here hold all the cards and they can decide where, when, from and whom they get sex from.

in honesty they'res no level playing field in ireland.

You've lost me here. Nobody said it was a game, it's a far too serious situation for alot of people to be labelled as a game IMO, plus who said that Irish guys don't make an effort to chat up Irish women (or women in general)? I said that some guys now think twice before approaching women because they have been embarrassed or humiliated in the past and are hesitant at getting burnt again. It's understandable if you ask me and it leaves the onus squarely at the feet of women, who will more then likely do nothing at all and revert back into their old ways of sitting back waiting to be approached. It's a vicious circle.

i would definitely think twice about approaching a girl here from past experiences from harsh put downs to childish games that would in other countries be frowned upon and quite rightly so.

It's nice to hear a female response that isn't straight on the defensive for once, I agree with the vast majority of your post and I'd like to remind all of the female posters that this thread is about dry spells.........yet the vast majority of female posters have admitted to having sex recently and those that haven't say they could have it anytime they wanted anyway. You obviously haven't a clue what it's like to be a guy in a dry spell so although your posts are welcome and interesting for the most part, please know your audience and try not too rub it in

a dry spell is like a vicious circle the longer it goes on the more confidence you lose making sex harder to get and prolonging it.as for female posters saying how easy it is to get sex it only re-iterates what i knew all along whilst i dont mind it on an internet forum if i met a girl in a bar who told me this id find it very conceited and be picking up my drink and moving on.

TaraFoxglove

beano345 wrote: »

as for female posters saying how easy it is to get sex it only re-iterates what i knew all along whilst i dont mind it on an internet forum if i met a girl in a bar who told me this id find it very conceited and be picking up my drink and moving on.

Why? That's kinda strange. It's been accepted by BOTH genders in this thread that it's easier for women. So why would you find it conceited? Though it's not something you'll likely hear someone say in a pub anyway. This is an internet forum, people discuss things that might not be said IRL.

beano345

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

Why? That's kinda strange. It's been accepted by BOTH genders in this thread that it's easier for women. So why would you find it conceited? Though it's not something you'll likely hear someone say in a pub anyway. This is an internet forum, people discuss things that might not be said IRL.

if you met a guy in a pub and he start saying that to you im sure you'd be thinking "jesus hes full of himself".

TaraFoxglove

beano345 wrote: »

if you met a guy in a pub and he start saying that to you im sure you'd be thinking "jesus hes full of himself".

I can't imagine someone bringing that up in conversation, can you?

It's been acknowledged by both genders on this thread that it's easier for women because it's true! That's not being conceited! But if someone you met in a pub discussed it with you reasonably, I doubt it would come across conceited. In fact, it should make sense!

beano345

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

I can't imagine someone bringing that up in conversation, can you?

It's been acknowledged by both genders on this thread that it's easier for women because it's true! That's not being conceited! But if someone you met in a pub discussed it with you reasonably, I doubt it would come across conceited. In fact, it should make sense!

ive seen women verbally rip men apart for less.put it this way if he said "i have no problem getting sex whenever i want" i sincerely doubt he'd be going home with you that night.i really don't get this women not approaching its like some feminine privilege "men do the approaching" that they don't want to give up,and sure why would they,they dont have to suffer the harsh put downs,their confidence and integrity remains intact and the next man will be along in no time.you should try it from our side sometime:D

TaraFoxglove

beano345 wrote: »

put it this way if he said "i have no problem getting sex whenever i want" i sincerely doubt he'd be going home with you that night.

Can you seriously picture someone coming out with that in a pub though? That's my point. A discussion board is different.

beano345

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

Can you seriously picture someone coming out with that in a pub though? That's my point. A discussion board is different.

you'd be surprised ive been on dates were i nearly spat me drink out with some of the things that were said.definitely not the kinda stuff you would want to hear on a first date and i mean SHOCKING :eek:

Raekwon

Ksusha26 wrote: »

I have had my male single friends say the same thing to me. I find Ireland a very funny place when it comes to sex and nudity for that matter. There is still such huge hang ups about it and what is acceptable in other countries, flirting in public and asking for numbers in bus stops etc. seems to be faux pas here. Women here hold all the cards and they can decide where, when, from and whom they get sex from.

As a women here, I have never had a problem finding or getting sex when I wanted it. I have even done without it at my own choice. But when I want it, I get it but I have turned down guys (I dont mean to boast ). For example last July I was sitting in a pub one Sunday afternoon by myself. I wasn't done up our anything, just had my hair tied back and wearing my summer blouse with runners. I was in the corner reading my book and an hour after a man in his early 40s struck up a conversation with me. We got on like a house on fire, anyway to cut a long story short(and a couple of drinks later), i went back to his apartment which was a 10 minute walk and had sex. After sex, I snuggled into him and I thought to myself, wow I wasn't expecting that, but it was nice. Around 11pm, I got up, (needed to catch the last bus) put my clothes back on, kissed him goodbye and never saw him again.

Now I'm engaged to be married and I met my fiance through work. he came up to me, we flirted and I gave him my number. The rest is history. In saying that, I have alot of pity for Irish guys. They are so sweet in a realy shy way and it is hard for them espcially when Irish girls are aloof. Guys, I want to say you are the best in the world and I am rooting for ye.

+1,000,000!

Are you Irish btw?

G86

Phat Cat wrote: »

In fairness G86, it took you the guts of a week to work up the courage to ask some guys housemate to forward him a piece of paper with your number on it. I'm not taking anything away from you here because what you did was still brave and your attitude is very refreshing, but most guys would have bitten the bullet in that situation right away and taken whatever reaction in their stride.

Ah yes, but that was 2 years ago. I've been much more pro-active since also, it simply hasn't been documented

gargleblaster

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

It's been acknowledged by both genders on this thread that it's easier for women because it's true! That's not being conceited!

I don't acknowledge it. I still assert that it's due to unwillingness to sleep with older or unattractive women. And that such women don't actually find it so easy to find a man to sleep with them unless they too drastically lowered their standards.

So IMO it's a case of people having standards, and then (some of them) moaning about the consequences of having those standards.

TaraFoxglove

gargleblaster wrote: »

I don't acknowledge it. I still assert that it's due to unwillingness to sleep with older or unattractive women. And that such women don't actually find it so easy to find a man to sleep with them unless they too drastically lowered their standards.

So IMO it's a case of people having standards, and then (some of them) moaning about the consequences of having those standards.

OK, well I guess age comes into it then. For a woman in her 20s, not a bother.

But yeah, I reckon the men on here DO have standards, everyone does. So why complain when a woman has standards?

Phat Cat

G86 wrote:

Ah yes, but that was 2 years ago. I've been much more pro-active since also, it simply hasn't been documented

We'll just have to take your word for it

By the way your thread was very cute, I had a great big grin on my face reading it and I was rooting for you all the way :pac:

gargleblaster wrote: »

I don't acknowledge it. I still assert that it's due to unwillingness to sleep with older or unattractive women. And that such women don't actually find it so easy to find a man to sleep with them unless they too drastically lowered their standards.

But why don't you acknowledge it? Older or unattractive women might not get the same amount of attention as younger or attractive women but they will still get way more attention then an older or unattractive man.

TaraFoxglove

Phat Cat wrote: »

but they will still get way more attention then an older or unattractive man.

That's not true. Power shifts as people get older. Older men have it easier than older women without a doubt.

Phat Cat

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

That's not true. Power shifts as people get older. Older men have it easier than older women without a doubt.

Only older men with money

TaraFoxglove

Phat Cat wrote: »

Only older men with money

Hmmm, I dunno. I'm not even going to try and deny that older men with money can cherry-pick women, they can, but I'm late 20s and was recently chatted up by a guy in his early 40s and I gotta tell ya, I wasn't horrified! And I have no idea what his financial status was (and we weren't in a venue for the moneyed either). Reverse the sexes and how would it have played out?

beano345

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

OK, well I guess age comes into it then. For a woman in her 20s, not a bother.

But yeah, I reckon the men on here DO have standards, everyone does. So why complain when a woman has standards?

i dont know i have been at both ends of the scale some stunners some not-so-stunning im definitely more picky personality wise now though as i get older,in saying that i went out with a girl years ago who was average looking but had breasts that a page 3 model would be jealous of and the male attention she got was ridiculous even getting served at a bar,and she used it to her advantage,so i think women dont really need that much going for them.

Raze_them_all

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

Hmmm, I dunno. I'm not even going to try and deny that older men with money can cherry-pick women, they can, but I'm late 20s and was recently chatted up by a guy in his early 40s and I gotta tell ya, I wasn't horrified! And I have no idea what his financial status was (and we weren't in a venue for the moneyed either). Reverse the sexes and how would it have played out?

I would consider older women to be 20 years. 10-15 years they can still look pretty mint

Raekwon

gargleblaster wrote: »

I don't acknowledge it. I still assert that it's due to unwillingness to sleep with older or unattractive women. And that such women don't actually find it so easy to find a man to sleep with them unless they too drastically lowered their standards.

So IMO it's a case of people having standards, and then (some of them) moaning about the consequences of having those standards.

IMO Irish guys haven't really got high standards at all (compared to most countries anyway), you only have to go out on a Saturday night for proof of this. On the other hand, Irish women have fairly high standards and that's where some of the issues, that have been posted on this thread, begin.

Raze_them_all

Raekwon wrote: »

IMO Irish guys haven't really got high standards at all (compared to most countries anyway), you only have to go out on a Saturday night for proof of this. On the other hand, Irish women have fairly high standards and that's where some of the issues, that have been posted on this thread, begin.

Eh no we just choose to ignore our standards. I could say the same about women based on some the women I've pulled in the past.

TaraFoxglove

Raze_them_all wrote: »

I would consider older women to be 20 years. 10-15 years they can still look pretty mint

I don't understand. 20 years older, you mean? Sorry, just being a bit dumb here.

Raekwon wrote: »

IMO Irish guys haven't really got high standards at all (compared to most countries anyway), you only have to go out on a Saturday night for proof of this. On the other hand, Irish women have fairly high standards and that's where some of the issues, that have been posted on this thread, begin.

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Eh no we just choose to ignore our standards. I could say the same about women based on some the women I've pulled in the past.

Yeah, I reckon everyone has standards, both genders, though Raekwon is right in that women are MUCH more harshly judged on their appearance in other countries, especially continental Europe. It's socially unacceptable to look a certain way. But, having said that, there's nothing wrong with either sex having some standards.

Raze_them_all

Yeah sorry. When I was 18/19 I'd a thing with a woman that was 10 years older and to me she wasn't that much older, but 20years older would seem like an older woman to me

Phat Cat

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

Hmmm, I dunno. I'm not even going to try and deny that older men with money can cherry-pick women, they can, but I'm late 20s and was recently chatted up by a guy in his early 40s and I gotta tell ya, I wasn't horrified! And I have no idea what his financial status was (and we weren't in a venue for the moneyed either). Reverse the sexes and how would it have played out?

I think women in their mid 30's and early 40's can be still very sexy. I worked with some very classy ladies over in London that oozed sex appeal & sophistication, that were around that age, and if they weren't attached they would differently give some of their younger counterparts a run for their money.

Raekwon

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Eh no we just choose to ignore our standards. I could say the same about women based on some the women I've pulled in the past.

Seriously though, most blokes would get up on anything over here, period! :pac:

TaraFoxglove

Phat Cat wrote: »

I think women in their mid 30's and early 40's can be still very sexy. I worked with some very classy ladies over in London that oozed sex appeal & sophistication, that were around that age, and if they weren't attached they would differently give some of their younger counterparts a run for their money.

Well, that's because women in their 20s, whilst having the advantage physically, tend to be more neurotic than their 30-something and 40-something counterparts. My mother says she gets more chilled with every decade that passes!

Raekwon wrote: »

Seriously though, most blokes would get up on anything over here, period!

Is that just for lack of better options though? :pac:

Raekwon

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

Yeah, I reckon everyone has standards, both genders, though Raekwon is right in that women are MUCH more harshly judged on their appearance in other countries, especially continental Europe. It's socially unacceptable to look a certain way. But, having said that, there's nothing wrong with either sex having some standards.

Yeah this is what I mean. Most foreign guys I work with laugh at the state of some Irish women yet these same women have no problem getting a decent Irish man. But I agree, everyone should have standards of some description, without standards people lose their morals

Raekwon

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

Is that just for lack of better options though? :pac:

Probably

TaraFoxglove

Raekwon wrote: »

Yeah this is what I mean. Most foreign guys I work with laugh at the state of some Irish women yet these same women have no problem getting a decent Irish man. But I agree, everyone should have standards of some description, without standards people lose their morals

But those same foreign guys might put a hell of a lot of pressure of their other halves to look a certain way so screw 'em! :pac:

TaraFoxglove

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

But those same foreign guys might put a hell of a lot of pressure of their other halves to look a certain way so screw 'em! :pac:

To quote myself, just a thought.

Maybe foreign women sometimes prefer Irish men over foreign men because they might put less body pressure on the women?

Some foreign couples, I known - jesus! :eek:

Raekwon

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

But those same foreign guys might put a hell of a lot of pressure of their other halves to look a certain way so screw 'em! :pac:

True, but most of those women have much healthier lifestyles so staying in good shape isn't really a choir for them.

TaraFoxglove

Raekwon wrote: »

True, but most of those women have much healthier lifestyles so staying in good shape isn't really a choir for them.

Yeah, but from some foreign couples I know, pressure is heaped on already healthy girls.

parker kent

Raekwon wrote: »

True, but most of those women have much healthier lifestyles so staying in good shape isn't really a choir for them.

This aspect is often ignored by men and women out of shape (myself included at various times). I had a weekend of fun and frolics with a Polish girl recently and on one of our trips around Wicklow, she went to the shop to get snacks. I expected the usual Irish shít storm of heart attacks in bags but she brought back grapes and nuts. We just eat too much crap in the UK and Ireland.

Note: Fun and frolics sounds way kinkier and sex related than I meant!

Phat Cat

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

Well, that's because women in their 20s, whilst having the advantage physically, tend to be more neurotic than their 30-something and 40-something counterparts. My mother says she gets more chilled with every decade that passes!

That's very true, some younger women can be a real handful.............in the literal sense of course :pac:

TaraFoxglove

parker kent wrote: »

This aspect is often ignored by men and women out of shape (myself included at various times). I had a weekend of fun and frolics with a Polish girl recently and on one of our trips around Wicklow, she went to the shop to get snacks. I expected the usual Irish shít storm of heart attacks in bags but she brought back grapes and nuts. We just eat too much crap in the UK and Ireland.

Fun and frolics, eh? :pac:

Phat Cat wrote: »

That's very true, some younger women can be a real handful.............in the literal sense of course

:pac:

Raekwon

TaraFoxglove wrote:

Yeah, but from some foreign couples I know, pressure is heaped on already healthy girls.

I don't doubt it, but most of these girls are in such perfect shape that even their partners have nothing to complain about

parker kent wrote: »

This aspect is often ignored by men and women out of shape (myself included at various times). I had a weekend of fun and frolics with a Polish girl recently and on one of our trips around Wicklow, she went to the shop to get snacks. I expected the usual Irish shít storm of heart attacks in bags but she brought back grapes and nuts. We just eat too much crap in the UK and Ireland.

Yeah, we do eat way too much crap over here and in the UK, it's a very sensitive subject though so I'm not going to get too much into it because I nearly got banned for using the words 'overweight' & 'Irishwomen' in the same sentence on these boards in the past.

But when you go abroad you can spot the difference in lifestyle immediately. For example, I went to Copenhagen last year and was shocked at how many people cycle around the city. Also when we went to see The Little Mermaid (which was a huge anticlimax I have to say) a street vendor near by was selling oatmeal cookies, sweetpeas in their pods, spring water & juices........that's a far cry from that unhealthy crap that would be sold at an equivalent attraction in Dublin.

TaraFoxglove

Raekwon wrote: »

Yeah, we do eat way too much crap over here and in the UK, it's a very sensitive subject though so I'm not going to get too much into it because I nearly got banned for using the words 'overweight' & 'Irishwomen' in the same sentence on these boards in the past.

Well, without getting too much into myself, it would be unfair to single out women here, we're ALL bad in this country.

But when you go abroad you can spot the difference in lifestyle immediately. For example, I went to Copenhagen last year and was shocked at how many people cycle around the city. Also when we went to see The Little Mermaid (which was a huge anticlimax I have to say) a street vendor near by was selling oatmeal cookies, sweetpeas in their pods, spring water & juices........that's a far cry from that unhealthy crap that would be sold at an equivalent attraction in Dublin.

I always wanted to cycle when living in Dublin but just found it way too dangerous. I bet cyclists are much better accommodated in Copenhagen than Dublin.

Also, oatmeal cookies can be quite bad for you, despite the presence of oats! Lots of sugar in there also. And juices actually too. Juice isn't really advised for a healthy diet, more veg and stuff.

parker kent

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

Well, without getting too much into myself, it would be unfair to single out women here, we're ALL bad in this country.

I always wanted to cycle when living in Dublin but just found it way too dangerous. I bet cyclists are much better accommodated in Copenhagen than Dublin.

Also, oatmeal cookies can be quite bad for you, despite the presence of oats! Lots of sugar in there also. And juices actually too. Juice isn't really advised for a healthy diet, more veg and stuff.

My post spoke about us as a nation, not in terms of women v men. I think his reply (which you replied to) was in that vein as well.

I get what you mean about oatmeal cookies and fruit juice being high in sugar. But a bottle of orange juice and nuts is far, far better for you that a can of coke and a Twix.

TaraFoxglove

parker kent wrote: »

I get what you mean about oatmeal cookies and fruit juice being high in sugar. But a bottle of orange juice and nuts is far, far better for you that a can of coke and a Twix.

Nutrition-wise, yes of course, but it is VERY easy to go over the top on those healthy foods too.

parker kent

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

Nutrition-wise, yes of course, but it is VERY easy to go over the top on those healthy foods too.

That's where the better lifestyles and attitude towards food that these people have comes in. They DON'T go overboard.

That applies to all in shape, healthy people from any country.

Not sure what this has to do with dry spells though. Although me considering us walking around Glendalough with grapes and nuts as fun and frolics probably explains my dry spell